Approaching the news from distinctly different points on the political spectrum, host Mike Pesca, and a rotating group of panelists, attempt to change each other's minds on the most important stories of the day. Often unsuccessfully. Between the non-stop election cycle and torrents of cancellations (real or imagined), there is a ton to argue about. But don't worry. In the end, they're NOT EVEN MAD.

Not Even Mad
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Approaching the news from distinctly different points on the political spectrum, host Mike Pesca, and a rotating group of panelists, attempt to change each other's minds on the most important stories of the day. Often unsuccessfully. Between the non-stop election cycle and torrents of cancellations (real or imagined), there is a ton to argue about. But don't worry. In the end, they're NOT EVEN MAD.
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Recent Episodes

July 2, 2026
EP 45 | Not Even Mad: Elizabeth Bruening & Ben Kawaller
Mike Pesca interviews Elizabeth Bruenig and Ben Kawaller, debating democratic socialism and JD Vance's faith memoir, offering insights into political and theological trends.

June 19, 2026
EP 44 | Anthony Weiner & Matt Welch
Former congressman Anthony Weiner and Reason editor-at-large Matt Welch discuss SpaceX's market valuation and age-based political realignment in New York primaries.

June 11, 2026
EP 43 | Bradley Tusk & Charles Fain Lehman
Mike Pesca interviews venture capitalist Bradley Tusk and Manhattan Institute senior fellow Charles Fain Lehman about political judgment, modern vice, and the impact of mobile sports betting.
46 total episodes available with 22 transcripts
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