
Not Even Mad
Hosted by Mike Pesca and Dan Savage and Liz Wolfe · Peach Fish Projects
4.7from 215 ratings
- 46
- Episodes
- 26
- Transcribed
- 215
- Ratings
- 2022
- First episode
- 183K
- YouTube views
About Not Even Mad
Approaching the news from distinctly different points on the political spectrum, host Mike Pesca, and a rotating group of panelists, attempt to change each other's minds on the most important stories of the day. Often unsuccessfully. Between the non-stop election cycle and torrents of cancellations (real or imagined), there is a ton to argue about. But don't worry. In the end, they're NOT EVEN MAD.
- Publisher
- Peach Fish Projects
- Category
- news · news
- Language
- en
- Explicit
- Yes
- First episode
- 21 Oct 2022
- Latest episode
- 2 Jul 2026
Latest episodes
26 of 46 episodes have a transcript.

2 Jul 2026TRANSCRIPT
EP 45 | Not Even Mad: Elizabeth Bruening & Ben Kawaller

19 Jun 2026TRANSCRIPT
EP 44 | Anthony Weiner & Matt Welch

11 Jun 2026TRANSCRIPT
EP 43 | Bradley Tusk & Charles Fain Lehman
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EP 45 | Not Even Mad: Elizabeth Bruening & Ben Kawaller
Published 2 Jul 2026 · Transcript excerpt
[…] There's been a lot of time for people to build up philosophies, arguments about theology. The Catholic Church is responsible for universities, right? I mean, it's not a religion that looks down on book learning. But then he also switched milieus. He feels like he's looked down upon... in that milieu so he becomes the co-leader of a movement where he's the opposite of looked down upon he's sort of deified um for his religion and that's part of the genesis of this book right as he wants to really really advertise the fact that he is religious because he's in this political milieu now where he is being incredibly rewarded for being religious and i guess one of my questions is shouldn't you kind of hunker down in a space where Christianity is uncommon and looked down upon and just dig in and be an example, as opposed to removing yourself to a milieu where you're rewarded for it. […]
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- Elizabeth Bruenig
- Ben Kawaller
- Anthony Weiner
- Matt Welch
- Bradley Tusk
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- YouTube views
- 183,321
- Score snapshot 15 Sept 2025
- Apple Podcasts (US)
- 4.7 / 5
- 181 ratings
- Spotify
- 4.6 / 5
- 34 ratings
Podcast Authority Score: 63 / 100
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- Quality
- 46
- Social presence
- 91
- YouTube
- 86
- Engagement
- 67
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Mike Pesca and Dan Savage and Liz Wolfe host the show. Published by Peach Fish Projects.
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