Not the Experts
Claim This Podcastby Amanda Christenson, LMFT and KayLee Dunn, LCSW
Podcast Overview
<p>Hi there! We are KayLee and Amanda—betrayal trauma therapists who have experienced relationship betrayal in real life.</p><p>We’re guessing you’ve found us because you’re one of us.</p><p>We hope you’ll join us as we talk about on all things betrayal, trauma, relationships, therapy, motherhood, and more.</p><p>Prepare for deep stuff, real stuff, lots of tangents, and way too many giggles.</p><p>Between the two of us, we have over 30 years of lived experience and over 20 years as specialized clinicians.</p><p>Betrayal trauma is our lived experience. Betrayal trauma healing is our expertise.</p><p>And while we bring both to the table, this podcast isn’t therapy—you are the expert of your own journey.</p>
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Recent Episodes
March 25, 2026
Episode 1: When Hope Comes...and Goes
<p><strong>Have you ever felt hopeful… and then five minutes later completely hopeless?</strong></p><p>If you’ve been healing from betrayal trauma for a while, but still feel that swing between “I’m okay” and “I’m not okay at all”—this episode will help you understand why.</p><p>We’re talking about the real relationship between <strong>hope and hopelessness after betrayal</strong>—why it still feels unstable, why hope can actually feel unsafe, and how to begin shifting it in a way that supports real emotional healing.</p><p>If you’re in that space where:</p><ul><li>you’ve done therapy or deep personal work</li><li>you understand what happened… but your emotions still swing</li><li>you’re wondering why healing doesn’t feel more “steady” yet</li></ul><p><br></p><p>This conversation will give you language for what’s happening in your <strong>nervous system, trauma recovery, and healing process</strong>.</p><p>You’re not behind. You’re not doing it wrong. You’re in a phase of healing that isn’t talked about enough.</p><p>This podcast is for educational purposes only and is not a replacement for medical care or psychotherapy.</p><p><br></p>
June 22, 2024
The Power of Empathy After Betrayal
<p>Join KayLee and Amanda, betrayal trauma therapists, as they explore the complexities of empathy in relationships affected by betrayal. From navigating personal hurts to fostering understanding with partners, they discuss the power and challenges of empathy in healing. Gain insights into building empathy while maintaining boundaries and discover how it transforms relationships. Tune in for a candid discussion on empathy's role in overcoming betrayal and fostering connection.</p><p><br></p><p>If you're looking for more support, we have a free Facebook group:</p><p>Humans Navigating Betrayal</p><p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/humansnavigatingbetrayal</p><p><br></p><p>You can also follow us on social media:</p><p>@heykayleedunn @amandachristensonmft</p><p><br></p><p>Just a little reminder, although we are specialized betrayal trauma therapists, our podcast, support groups, and social media accounts are not a replacement for treatment by a medical professional. This content is created for educational and entertainment purposes only.</p>
January 29, 2022
Getting Triggered by Other's Stories
<p>Listen in as KayLee and Amanda discuss what it is like to have betrayal trauma while helping others navigate betrayal trauma.</p><p>It is so normal for other people's stories to be triggering for you. So. Normal. The key component is what we do with and how we respond to those triggers. </p><p>If you're looking for more support, we have a free facebook group and live meetings: </p><p>Humans Navigating Betrayal</p><p>https://www.facebook.com/groups/1667836370046685</p><p>You can also follow us on social media: </p><p>IG: @being.scabs , @kayleec.dunn , @amandachristensonmft</p><p>Just a little reminder, although we are specialized betrayal trauma therapists, our podcast, support groups, and social media are not therapy, nor are they a replacement for therapy.</p>
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- What is Not the Experts?
<p>Hi there! We are KayLee and Amanda—betrayal trauma therapists who have experienced relationship betrayal in real life.</p><p>We’re guessing you’ve found us because you’re one of us.</p><p>We hope you’ll join us as we talk about on all things betrayal, trauma, relationships, therapy, motherhood, and more.</p><p>Prepare for deep stuff, real stuff, lots of tangents, and way too many giggles.</p><p>Between the two of us, we have over 30 years of lived experience and over 20 years as specialized clinicians.</p><p>Betrayal trauma is our lived experience. Betrayal trauma healing is our expertise.</p><p>And while we bring both to the table, this podcast isn’t therapy—you are the expert of your own journey.</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
This podcast updates weekly.
- Where can I listen to this podcast?
This podcast is available on 4 platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more. You can also use the RSS feed directly.
- Does this podcast accept guests?
Yes, this podcast regularly features guests.
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