Not to Forgive, but to Understand

About Not to Forgive, but to Understand

A podcast series discussing topics in genocide studies with scholars and individuals deeply involved in understanding the complexities of genocide and its perpetrators. Presented by writer, and scholar of Genocide Studies Sabah Carrim, along with co-host Luis Gonzalez-Aponte. Tune in to this podcast series for insightful discussions on pressing topics in the field.

Publisher

Sabah Carrim and Luis Gonzalez-Aponte

Category

education · history · news

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

21 Jan 2024

Latest episode

25 Oct 2026

Latest episodes

48 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   25 Oct 2026

   Gabor Rona: The UN Fact-Finding Report on U.S. Strikes in Iran

   Gabor Rona joins Sabah Carrim to examine the UN fact-finding mission’s report on U.S. strikes in Iran, focusing on the Minab school strike and the Lamerd sports complex attack. Drawing on his recent Lawfare article, Rona explains the rules governing military targeting and the distinction between state responsibility and individual criminal liability. The conversation considers Pete Hegseth’s statements and decisions through the lens of command responsibility. Rona also discusses the Rome Sta...

2. 

   12 Oct 2026

   Md. Rizwanul Islam: The Rohingya Crisis, Genocide, and Repatriation

   In this episode we speak with Rizwanul Islam about the Rohingya crisis, the persecution and displacement of Rohingya from Myanmar, and the legal and political challenges surrounding their possible repatriation. We discuss the roots of Rohingya statelessness, Myanmar’s 1982 Citizenship Law, the role of anti-Rohingya propaganda, the pressures placed on Bangladesh by mass displacement, and the limitations of the international refugee system. The conversation also examines The Gambia v. Myanmar ...

3. 

   2 Oct 2026

   Alex de Waal: Famine, Hunger, Starvation, and Genocide

   In this episode, we speak with Alex de Waal, executive director of the World Peace Foundation and a leading authority on famine and the Horn of Africa. We speak about how famine is politically produced and what crises in Sudan, Gaza, and tell us about war, climate change, and accountability for mass starvation. 0:00 The Coming Climate-Driven Food Crisis 1:46 Introduction to Alex de Waal 3:15 Defining Food Insecurity, Starvation, and Famine 12:38 The “Malthusian Zombie” and Overpopulation 15:...

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