We live in a world with endless opportunities, yet choosing the right individual path has never been more challenging. What you choose to do with your work may be the most important decision of your life. Join renowned television producer, Bill Hayes, as he explores the wide range of ways people make a living. Each episode features a refreshingly authentic conversation with a guest who is passionate about what they do. They reveal how they found their path, the challenges they’ve faced, and what their work is really like. From well-known careers to jobs you didn’t know existed, these stories offer practical insight and real inspiration. From their stories, learn what it takes to turn your interests and skills into a career you love.
It's not just about making a living, it's about making a life.
We're mixing things up a bit today! Producer Erin Upson takes a turn in the host seat interviewing today's guest: our usual host Bill Hayes. We'll learn about his childhood growing up on his family's farm in North Carolina, going to Duke University unsure of what he wanted to do, and taking a winding path of many different jobs before stumbling onto video production by doing a project for a friend. From there, he started a company that became Figure 8 Films, which has produced some of t...
30 Jun 2026
Real Estate Broker and Actor - Claire Pope
Born and raised in England, Claire Pope grew up working as a model and actor, but when her husband received an opportunity for a two year stint in the United States, Claire and her family left all they knew behind. More than a decade later, they're still here, and along the way, Claire has found a new career as a real estate broker in Chapel Hill, NC. In this episode, you'll hear about what it's like to join the acting business as a teenager, what it was like for Claire having a child earlier...
9 Apr 2026
Coach, Philanthropist, and Administrator - Dereck Whittenburg
It's hard to come up with a succinct set of titles for Dereck Whittenburg. After playing basketball at one of the best basketball high schools in the country for arguably the best high school coach of all time, he helped NC State win its second national championship. After a brief international career, he went into coaching, had a broadcasting role at ESPN, produced several major documentaries, started a scholarship foundation, and returned to his alma mater to serve as an administrator. In t...
7 Apr 2026
Podcaster and History Teacher - Daniel Ayers
Daniel Ayers grew up in a small North Carolina town, and after graduating college, came back to be a history teacher. He happened to meet Quinn Ray at political events, and the two formed a friendship that turned into one of the fastest growing North Carolina centered podcasts, The Hometown Holler. In this episode, you'll learn about what it looks like to run a podcast, the importance of building relationships, and why coming back to your small town might not be such a bad idea after all. See...
23 Feb 2026
Farmer and Venture Capitalist - Greg Bohlen
Greg Bohlen grew up on a farm, so it might not be surprising that he now runs a regenerative vineyard called Union Grove Farm. What's a bit more surprising is that between leaving his childhood farm and founding Union Grove, he got an MBA, owned a bank at 25 years old, became an investment banker, and then founded one of the most successful venture capital firms in the country. In this episode, you'll learn about Greg's path from farming to venture capital and back, the importance of being wi...
23 Feb 2026
Formulating Chemist - Abena Antwi
Abena Antwi grew up in Ghana, where she played by creating makeup with clay and the rich natural materials around her. She moved to the US and went to college determined to be a pharmacist, but discovered that she could use her passion and talent in chemistry to create cosmetics as well. After an internship at L'Oreal, she decided to pursue cosmetic chemistry, and eventually found a job at Burt's Bees, where she uses many of the same natural ingredients she grew up using to create internation...
23 Feb 2026
Shepherd - Dane Jensen
Dane Jensen is in the world's oldest profession—no, not that one. He's a shepherd, but the sheep that he tends have a very particular job. They're used in the fields of Union Grove Farm, a regenerative farm in central North Carolina focused on producing a new variety of table grape in a sustainable way. Dane was born in California and spent years working in the wine industry in California while maintaining his own personal farm. His expertise in regenerative farming in the vineyards led to an...
13 Jan 2026
Music Producer and Supervisor - Ray Williams
Ray Williams burst onto the British music scene in the 1960s by discovering a young musician named Reginald Dwight, whom you might know better as Elton John. He introduced him to a poet named Bernie Taupin, who would go on to write the lyrics for many of Elton's most famous songs. He continued working for decades as a manager, producer, and "A&R guy" in the music industry before transitioning to the film and television industry, where he's won numerous awards including Academy Awards, Gol...
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