Off The Couch

About Off The Couch

That podcast you've been waiting for that explores the intersections of manhood, masculinity, relationships, mental health, and even current events in communities of color. Hosted by a dynamic duo of thoughtful NYC social workers who keep it real & who will keep you thinking and even smiling. Listen once, listen twice & join us for the ride.

Publisher

Off The Couch Ft. Cheryl Hurst, LCSW-R NYS

Category

health & fitness

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

9 Mar 2021

Latest episode

2 Aug 2026

Latest episodes

16 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   2 Aug 2026

   OTC Episode 15: Belonging, Shame & Black Fatherhood with Steve Alexander Jr.

   Welcome to Off the Couch with Albery & Cheryl! What does it cost a man to look like he has it all together on the outside while feeling completely disconnected within? In this powerful episode of Off the Couch, Cheryl and Albery (LMSWs) sit down with licensed psychotherapist, speaker, and founder of NY Wellness, Steve Alexander Jr. (ARM, LMHC-D, LPC). Steve’s work centers around helping people navigate identity, belonging, trauma, and major life transitions—from high-achieving professionals and first-generation individuals to gang-affiliated youth and new fathers. Together, we unpack what happens when the void of disconnection gets filled with destructive behavior and how we can raise the emotional awareness of men in 2026 and beyond. In this episode, we dive into: • The hidden cost for men of "staying strong" while in crisis. • Belonging vs. Disconnection: The surprising thread connecting youth to isolated adults. • Shame & Behavior: How unaddressed shame acts as a precursor to destructive, violent and/or controlling behavior. • Financial Stress & Mental Health: How economic pressure impacts a man's sense of self and emotional stability. • Redefining Black Fatherhood: Discuss practical tips for fathers, and share ideas fathers can utilize to model emotional integrity without feeling like they are failing at being a "man" Whether you’re a clinician, a father, or someone navigating your own journey toward belonging, this conversation offers a warm, practical, and human roadmap for healing. --- CONNECT WITH OUR GUEST: Steve Alexander Jr., ARM, LMHC-D, LPC | NY Wellness • Website: https://nywellness.com • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thenywellness/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevealexanderjr/ • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenywellness/videos CONNECT WITH OFF THE COUCH: • Instagram: @OffTheCouch.ac • Subscribe & Leave a Review: If this episode resonated with you, please rate us 5 stars on Spotify and share it with someone who needs to hear it! #BlackMensMentalHealth, #Fatherhood, #NYWellness,# Steve #Alexander, #Trauma#Therapy,# EMDR, #LMSW, #OffTheCouch #Masculinity#Belonging

2. 

   9 Apr 2026

   OTC Episode 14: Socialization, Accountability, and Healing with Special Guest Timothy Moore, The Clarity Doctor

   In this episode, Cheryl and Albery bridge the gap between clinical therapy and grassroots community action. We dive into the reality of being a Black men and men in general in 2026, comparing the socialization shifts we’ve seen since 2020 and exploring how we can hold space for accountability without exile. We are joined by author, writer, and speaker Timothy Moore, to move beyond the mask men wear and start building the blueprint for collective healing. In this episode, we discuss: Emotional Literacy: Empowering men to find and develop the specific emotional language for their lived experiences. The 2026 Provider Myth: How the "financial provider" script is evolving (and sometimes harming) in a shifting economy. Accountability & Restoration: How a community-based response can address men who have caused harm while still offering a path to healing. Digital Fatherhood/Mentorship: Navigating the "algorithm" and reclaiming mentorship in an age of social media influence. Whether you are a therapist, an organizer, or a brother looking for a space to breathe, this episode is for you. It’s time to take the conversation off the couch and into the world. Connect with Off the Couch: Instagram: @OffTheCouchPod Follow & Subscribe: Don't miss our upcoming video series for Domestic Violence Awareness Month this October. About Our Guest:Timothy Moore is a dedicated community organizer focusing on the mental health and socialization of Black men, creating spaces for vulnerability and growth around the country. Connect with Timothy Moore: https://www.theclaritydoctor.com/ theclaritydoctor@gmail.com (mailto:theclaritydoctor@gmail.com)

3. 

   26 Jan 2026

   OTC Episode 13 | Ai on the Couch: Is AI Therapy a new Breakthrough or a Breach?

   Can ai chatbots truly hold space for your mental health? This episode , AL and Cheryl tackle the complex, rapidly evolving world of AI in mental health. Following a series of bombshell exposés from 404 Media (PLEASE show them love) and TIME, we’re diving into the ethical "edges" of technology—from AI bots impersonating licensed professionals to the dangerous ways these systems can fail in a crisis. We explore the tension between the desperate need for mental health accessibility and the risk of lowering our standards for human connection. Is AI a helpful tool for overworked social workers, or are we handing the keys to our mental well-being over to un-regulated algorithms? In this episode, we discuss: The Ethical Issue with ai: Unpacking the FTC complaints against Meta and Character.AI bots claiming to be licensed therapists. The "Music Industry" Parallel: Are we lowering our standards for in therapy just for the sake of convenience? Safety Failures: Discussing the TIME investigation where bots suggested romance or violence to a simulated teen. The Silver Lining: How human-AI collaboration can assist social workers and therapist handle administrative task efficiently The Verdict: Why AI can be an adjunct to care, but can never replace the relational depth of a human therapist. Resources Mentioned: 404 Media: "AI Therapy Bots Are Conducting 'Illegal Behavior'" https://www.404media.co/ai-therapy-bots-meta-character-ai-ftc-complaint/?utm_source=chatgpt.com TIME Magazine: Investigation into AI Safety Protocols https://time.com/7291048/ai-chatbot-therapy-kids/?utm_source=chatgpt.com APA Monitor: Psychology Embracing AI (Guidelines & Ethics) https://www.apaservices.org/practice/business/technology/tech-101/evaluating-artificial-intelligence-tool?utm_source=apa.org&utm_medium=referral&utm_content=/search Off the Couch Reflection: Would you use an AI chatbot for mental health support? Why or why not? We want to hear your thoughts—join the conversation on our social channels or leave a comment! Connect with Us! Find us on @: offthecouch_ac on Instagram! #Psychology #MentalHealthInnovation #SocialWorkEthics #AI #DigitalHealth #OffTheCouchPodcast

4. 

   8 Jun 2025

   OTC Episode 12: State of Social Work/Mental Health in 2025

   Hosts AL and CHERYL reflect on the future of social work and mental health in 2025, examining the impact of political developments and evolving cultural attitudes on practitioners and marginalized communities.

5. 

   31 Oct 2024

   OTC Episode 11: DV pt II - Prevention, Intervention, and Community Action

   In this powerful episode of Off the Couch, hosts Albery and Cheryl continue to discuss the critical and complex topic of domestic violence (DV). They guide listeners through a sensitive yet essential conversation on the realities of DV and the steps everyone can take to help create safer communities. Starting with their own experiences learning about intervention and prevention efforts, the hosts explore the various factors that often contribute to DV, including poverty, substance use, family trauma, and broader societal issues. They also highlight ways to get involved, such as bystander intervention, upstander actions, and the importance of educating oneself through reliable sources rather than internet myths. Listeners will gain insight into: Key warning signs of abusive relationships, for both survivors and perpetrators The roles of emotional, psychological, financial, and even spiritual abuse in DV dynamics Clinical interventions and resources available to both survivors and perpetrators, from shelters to therapeutic support With calls to stay informed, have conversations, and stand in solidarity with survivors, this episode empowers listeners to play an active role in DV prevention. If you or someone you know needs support, please remember the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 1-800-799-SAFE (7233). Let’s work together to support survivors and create a culture of accountability, awareness, and safety for all! #OfftheCouch #DV #Awareness#Month#2024

6. 

   17 Oct 2024

   OTC BONUS*: Men, Accountability, and Mental Health: Owning Up, Showing Up, and Self-Care

   In this bonus episode of Off the Couch , Co-host Cheryl and Albery explore the critical intersection of accountability and mental health for men. We start by defining what accountability means in everyday life, particularly for fathers and men in other roles. Accountability isn’t just about showing up—it’s also about owning the consequences of actions, repairing harm, and communicating when you’ve fallen short. Key discussion points: Defining Accountability: What does it mean to be accountable? How does it play out in men's roles within families, friendships, and communities? We’ll also dive into how men can be more consistent in showing up for their families and owning responsibilities like child support and shared tasks beyond financial provision. Who Men Need to Be Accountable To: Accountability extends beyond the self. We discuss how men are expected to show up for family, friends, spiritual communities, and most importantly, themselves. Barriers to Accountability: We explore why men struggle with accountability—whether it’s fear of losing masculine status, the reluctance to hold each other accountable, or ingrained beliefs that make self-care and accountability seem like opposites. Barriers to Self-Care: Many men engage in “manly” forms of self-care (e.g., overtraining, isolation), yet struggle with behaviors seen as “soft” or emotionally vulnerable. How does socialization around masculinity limit acts of self-love? Breaking Free from the “Man Box”: We’ll discuss societal pressure to uphold rigid masculine ideals and how this can conflict with the practice of self-care, including excuses like “not enough time” or “not enough money” for self-care. Please remember to like and share the podcast platform!

7. 

   15 Oct 2024

   OTC Episode 10: Breaking the Silence: Understanding Intimate Partner Violence (DV Awareness Month 2024)

   In this powerful episode of Off the Couch (with Albery and Cheryl), we tackle the complex and sensitive issue of intimate partner violence (IPV) in honor of Domestic Violence Awareness Month 2024. Join us as we share our personal experiences with how IPV came onto our radar and break down common myths surrounding abuse. We explore the many forms of abusive behaviors, from physical and verbal abuse to financial, emotional, sexual, and digital. We’ll also cover the role of power and control in abusive relationships, warning signs to look out for, and the often-overlooked abuse tactics like gaslighting and spiritual abuse. Whether you're looking to better understand IPV, seeking ways to support a loved one, or educating yourself on how to recognize warning signs, this episode provides essential insights and resources. Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussions of domestic and intimate partner violence. If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, please contact the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) or visit TheHotline.org.

8. 

   28 Sept 2024

   A brief discussion on Social Anxiety

   In this episode of Off the Couch (with Albery and Cheryl), explore the growing mental health challenges men are facing in 2024, with a special focus on social anxiety. We discuss why more men are experiencing anxiety in social situations, the barriers that prevent them from seeking help, and practical steps they can take to begin improving their mental health. The hosts also dive into the societal pressures that make treatment more difficult, how men can overcome these challenges, and explore practical tools for managing anxiety in a world that expects men to always be ‘strong’. Don't miss it! #MentalHealthMatters #SocialAnxiety #MenAndMentalHealth"

9. 

   13 Sept 2024

   How Fathers Can Support Their Grieving Child

   In this heartfelt episode of Off the Couch, hosts Albery and Cheryl dive into the complex world of grief, focusing on how it manifests in children and the unique challenges it presents to families. With a special emphasis on fathers, they explore how parents can support their children through the grieving process while managing their own emotions. Offering practical insights and a deep understanding of grief, this episode provides guidance on how fathers can become pillars of strength for their children during one of life’s most difficult moments. Tune in for an important conversation that blends personal experience with professional expertise!

10. 

    28 May 2024

    OTC Episode 7: We don’t talk about it (Men and Sexual Assault)

    In this compelling episode, co-hosts Cheryl and AL tackle a deeply sensitive and often overlooked issue: the sexual assault of men. The conversation begins with AL sharing a powerful social media post from a male colleague recounting his own assault, sparking a broader discussion on the varied reactions it received. Cheryl and AL also delve into how patriarchal norms and rigid societal expectations shape the discourse around male sexual assault, often stifling open conversation and support. They explore the cultural and psychological barriers that prevent men from speaking out and the unique challenges faced by Black men in these situations. The episode then transitions into a discussion on actionable steps men can take to support each other and begin the healing process. Cheryl and AL highlight the importance of creating safe spaces for men to share their stories and offer practical advice on how to foster a more supportive community. Tune in for an eye-opening discussion that aims to break the silence and offer hope and resources for those in need. Additional support and resources are provided in the show notes RAINN  -  RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network) is the nation's largest anti-sexual violence organization. RAINN created and operates the National Sexual Assault Hotline (800.656.HOPE, online.rainn.org y rainn.org/es) in partnership with more than 1,000 local sexual assault service providers across the country and operates the DoD Safe Helpline for the Department of Defense. RAINN also carries out programs to prevent sexual violence, help survivors, and ensure that perpetrators are brought to justice https://www.rainn.org/national-resources-sexual-assault-survivors-and-their-loved-ones (https://www.rainn.org/national-resources-sexual-assault-survivors-and-their-loved-ones) Understanding Male Socialization, Stigma, and Reactions to Sexual Violence - National Sexual Violence Resource Center https://www.nsvrc.org/working-male-survivors-sexual-violence/Understanding (https://www.nsvrc.org/working-male-survivors-sexual-violence/Understanding)

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    17 Dec 2023

    OTC Episode 6: On Forgiveness

    Hey Ya’ll it's Off the Couch. In this episode, Cheryl & Albery discuss the theme of ‘forgiveness,’ specifically forgiving oneself.  Together, they navigate the intricate role forgiveness plays in our journey toward healing and personal growth. In addition, Albery and Cheryl share real-life anecdotes and expert insights on the complex nature of forgiveness in the presence of harm.  Listeners are asked to consider the question- is forgiveness necessary? Feel free to share your thoughts with us. Forgiveness”: as defined by Psychology Today https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/forgiveness “Is forgiveness necessary for healing?” https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/lost-in-the-reflecting-pool/202101/is-forgiveness-necessary-healing *Episode Cover art by: Cheryl Hurst *Outro Music By: Albery Abreu

12. 

    8 Oct 2023

    OTC Episode 5: Finding Empathy in Our Work

    Hey Ya’ll. It's Off the Couch. In this episode, Albery & Cheryl discuss empathy. They examine the importance and challenges of maintaining empathy in their professional work with men who have perpetrated violence within their partnerships. Albery and Cheryl define empathy and explore the benefits for men who have caused harm to practice empathy (even if emotions might be intense). Cheryl presents a unique question to ask to bridge connections with others in our life. The hosts acknowledge how hard empathy may be and encourage us all to practice reaching towards finding more empathy for each other. Are you up for an empathy challenge? Special congrats to Albery for passing his SW licensing exam! https://www.op.nysed.gov/professions/licensed-clinical-social-worker/license-requirements (https://www.op.nysed.gov/professions/licensed-clinical-social-worker/license-requirements) The importance of clinicians finding professional support (& training) to ensure best practices. Check out some of these resources!: https://fathersandfamiliescoalition.org/programs/disc-training-program.html (https://fathersandfamiliescoalition.org/programs/disc-training-program.html) https://www.biscmi.org/resources/aquila-resources/ (https://www.biscmi.org/resources/aquila-resources/) AL presents 4 steps towards empathy (Brene Brown (https://twentyonetoys.com/blogs/teaching-empathy/brene-brown-empathy-vs-sympathy))

13. 

    6 Oct 2023

    OTC Episode 4: Continued discussion on Mental Health

    Hey ya’ll in this episode, Co-hosts Cheryl and Al have a discussion on their thoughts on the term “Mental Health”, their experiences in trying to get men into therapy, experiences of providing therapy to men, barriers preventing people from engaging in mental health services, tips on helping a loved one take their mental health a bit more seriously, and much more! Tune in! Would love to follow up with us? Please contact us at Offthecouch.ac@gmail.com. Send us questions, thoughts, comments, compliments, feedback - anything! We'd appreciate the support. Make sure to follow and subscribe! Thanks! Resources/Show notes: https://www.apa.org/about/policy/boys-men-practice-guidelines.pdf (https://www.apa.org/about/policy/boys-men-practice-guidelines.pdf) - “The present document articulates guidelines that enhance gender- and culture-sensitive psychological practice with boys and men from diverse backgrounds in the United States. These guide-lines provide general recommendations for psychologists who seek to increase their awareness, knowledge, and skills in psychological practice with boys and men.” https://experiencelife.lifetime.life/article/the-six-pillars-of-self-esteem/ (https://experiencelife.lifetime.life/article/the-six-pillars-of-self-esteem/) - SIX PILLARS OF SELF-ESTEEM Article. https://grapeshotmq.com.au/2019/05/regulars-idgi-toxic-masculinity-101/ (https://grapeshotmq.com.au/2019/05/regulars-idgi-toxic-masculinity-101/)

14. 

    1 Oct 2023

    OTC Episode 3: Discussion on Teen Dating Violence

    Hey Ya’ll. It's Off the Couch. In this episode, Cheryl & Albery catch up to discuss the issue of teen dating violence. The conversation is sparked by Albery’s experience working alongside teens in addressing dating violence. The co-host talks through the definition of abuse, examples of the abusive behaviors, and provides support and tips on how to help those affected by dating violence/abuse. With this episode, Cheryl & Albery hope to continue  reminding everyone about the importance of this issue and why we need to consistently talk about dating violence. HowManyTeensAreAffected? (https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/intimatepartnerviolence/teendatingviolence/fastfact.html (https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/intimatepartnerviolence/teendatingviolence/fastfact.html)) https://www.loveisrespect.org/ (https://www.loveisrespect.org/) https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/familyservices/domestic-sexual-violence/teen-dating-violence (https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/familyservices/domestic-sexual-violence/teen-dating-violence) Would love to follow up with us? Please contact us at Offthecouch.ac@gmail.com. Send us questions, thoughts, comments, compliments, feedback - anything! We'd appreciate the support. Make sure to follow and subscribe! Thanks!

15. 

    10 Mar 2021

    OTC Episode 2: Off to the Intro pt. 2: What we do

    In this second episode, Co-host Cheryl and Al continue to discuss their experiences and thoughts on the clinical side of social work and delve more into their collaborative work that allows them to connect with men (fathers). Cheryl and Al briefly discuss the history of abusive partner intervention work, what modality they utilize to work with fathers, and tips for engagement.

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    9 Mar 2021

    OTC Episode 1: Off to the Intro pt.1: Who we are

    In this inaugural episode, two social workers connect to discuss their new endeavor and show, Off the Couch, which aims to address the experiences of social workers from a nonwhite perspective (?). Cheryl Hurst, LCSW-R, RPT-S and Albery Abreu, LMSW discuss the unique work they do with families impacted by DV, how they connected, and their thoughts on the misconceptions of social work and all things mental health related!

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