Australia is a litigious country - want insight behind the legal lens and understanding of outcomes delivered On Just Terms? Join host Jason Betts, Litigation Partner at Herbert Smith Freehills Kramer, as he interviews the people at the front line of Australian class action litigation shaping Australian corporate risk.
On Just Terms S2 E9: Empirical insights and the case for reform with Professor Dr Vince Morabito, Monash University
In this episode of On Just Terms, partners Jason Betts and Melissa Gladstone are joined by Professor Vince Morabito, one of Australia's leading empirical researchers on class actions. Drawing on decades of data, Professor Morabito explores common misconceptions about the class action system, the factors driving filing rates, and the impact of Victoria's group costs order regime. He also discusses concerns about rising GCO rates, assesses whether access to justice objectives are being ac...
30 Jul 2026
On Just Terms S2 E8: Securing Corporate Australia: National Security, Cyber Risk and Governance with Hamish Hansford, Head of National Security, Department of Home Affairs
In this episode of On Just Terms, Jason Betts and Melissa Gladstone are joined by Hamish Hansford, Head of National Security at the Department of Home Affairs and Australia's Commonwealth Counter-Terrorism Coordinator, for a discussion on the evolving national security landscape and its implications for Australian organisations. Hamish discusses Australia's Cyber Security Strategy, mandatory ransomware reporting, the convergence of cyber, foreign interference and organised crime threats, and ...
15 Jul 2026
On Just Terms S2 EP7: Reform priorities and future decisions with Dr Peter Cashman
In this episode of On Just Terms, partners Jason Betts and Melissa Gladstone sit down with Dr Peter Cashman, adjunct professor at UNSW and leading barrister, to discuss the evolution of Australia’s class action regime. Drawing on decades of experience, Dr Cashman reflects on its role in improving corporate governance, product safety and access to justice, while addressing ongoing challenges around cost, delay and efficiency. He also outlines a range of reforms aimed at creating a faster...
2 Jul 2026
On Just Terms S2 E6: Boards at the crossroads with Mark Rigotti Managing Director & CEO, AICD
In this episode of On Just Terms, HSF Kramer partners Cameron Hanson and Tania Gray speak with Mark Rigotti, Managing Director and CEO of the Australian Institute of Company Directors, about the evolving governance landscape. The discussion explores governing culture beyond compliance, the growing influence of AI in the boardroom, and the impact of private capital on transparency, accountability and board priorities. A timely conversation for directors, executives and advisers navigati...
12 Jun 2026
On Just Terms S2 EP5 - Fair, Orderly and Transparent with Lucinda McCann, Group Executive, ASX Supervision
In this episode of On Just Terms, Jason Betts and Harry Edwards are joined by Lucinda McCann, Group Executive, ASX Supervision, for a candid conversation on the organisation’s approach to its supervisory and enforcement responsibilities. Lucinda discusses ASX's shift to risk-based supervision, effective engagement during its inquiries, continuous disclosure obligations, trading halts, and its referrals of matters to ASIC. She also explores the impact of the securities class actions mar...
13 May 2026
On Just Terms S2 E4: In the Public Interest with The Honourable Michelle Rowland MP, Attorney-General of Australia
In the latest episode of On Just Terms, HSF Kramer partners Jason Betts and Rebecca Maslen-Stannage are joined by The Honourable Michelle Rowland MP, Attorney-General of Australia, for a wide-ranging discussion on the government's legal priorities. The Attorney-General shares insights on Privacy Act reform, the government's position on copyright and AI and why there is no text and data mining exception, scams and consumer protection, class actions and access to justice, and the critica...
29 Apr 2026
On Just Terms S2 EP3 - The Future of Legal Finance with Stuart Price, CEO of CASL – Part 2
In this episode of On Just Terms, Jason Betts and Melissa Gladstone continue their conversation with Stuart Price, CEO of CASL, focusing on the practical realities of litigation funding. The discussion examines how funders balance commercial returns with fairness to group members, manage competing stakeholder interests, and respond to evolving market dynamics, including contingency fees, legal finance models and emerging technologies shaping the future of complex litigation.
22 Apr 2026
On Just Terms S2 EP2 - Inside Litigation Funding with Stuart Price CEO & Co-founder of CASL – Part 1
In this episode of On Just Terms, Jason Betts and Melissa Gladstone speak with Stuart Price, CEO of CASL, about the role litigation funding plays in Australia’s corporate risk landscape. The conversation explores how funders assess and select cases, the legal and commercial factors that influence funding decisions, and what these dynamics mean for companies facing complex litigation. Stuart also shares insights into how risk appetite, case selection, and regulatory settings continue to shape ...
22 Apr 2026
On Just Terms S2 EP1 - From Compliance to Capability: AUSTRAC’s Expectations for Corporate Australia
Season 2 Episode 1: From Compliance to Capability: AUSTRAC’s Expectations for Corporate Australia In this episode of On Just Terms, Herbert Smith Freehills Kramer disputes partners Jason Betts and Bryony Adams speak with Brendan Thomas, CEO of AUSTRAC, about the evolving financial crime risk landscape facing corporate Australia. Over the course of their discussion, Mr Thomas shares a number of invaluable insights about AUSTRAC’s expectations about the ways in which companies manage financia...
15 Mar 2023
On Just Terms EP9: The cut and thrust of modern litigation with Elizabeth Collins SC & Imtiaz Ahmed
In this episode of On Just Terms, Jason Betts is joined by Elizabeth Collins SC and Imtiaz Ahmed who are both Barristers at Sixth Floor Chambers. Both deeply experienced in the conduct of class actions litigations, including shareholder class actions, they discuss advocacy in complex commercial litigation, the operation of the class action regime and the nature of practice at the commercial bar. Exploring the links between royal commissions and class actions, the funding of our major corporat...
8 Mar 2023
On Just Terms EP8: Battles, contests and a little bit of colour
In this episode of On Just Terms, Herbert Smith Freehills partner Jason Betts is joined by Michael Pelly, Legal Affairs Editor, Australian Financial Review (AFR) to discuss the reporting of legal affairs, trending reforms in class actions, and the issues more likely to grab future headlines in Australia. In a time of significant change where the legal sector is reshaping itself and risks are evolving quickly, they discuss ideas discuss the dynamic evolution of class actions and their potenti...
13 Dec 2022
On Just Terms EP7: Group members protected by experienced judiciary but more powers needed
In this episode of On Just Terms, Jason Betts is joined by The Hon. Justice Sarah C Derrington AM President of the Australian Law Reform Commission (ALRC), their discussion covers reforms to class actions practice, changes to the corporations law and the future direction of commonwealth law reform. Her Honour shares insights into the factors impacting class actions, approaches to modern litigation including mega-litigation, the future of the ALRC, and the role serendipity has played in her ca...
29 Nov 2022
On Just Terms EP6: Is access to justice worse in 2022 than in 1962? with Jacob Varghese
In this episode of On Just Terms, Jason Betts is joined by Jacob Varghese Chief Executive Officer of Maurice Blackburn Lawyers to discuss the litigious environment relating to social justice causes including their models of funding. Jacob shares his perspectives on the use of class actions to seek access to justice, the regulatory pyramid, group costs orders, and emerging trends including the gig economy, and crypto. They also discuss the legal profession more broadly and the economic realiti...
8 Nov 2022
On Just Terms EP5: Focus attention on the real issues in dispute
In this episode of On Just Terms, Jason Betts is joined by President of the NSW Court of Appeal, the Honourable Justice Julie Ward. Her Honour shares perspectives on efficient management of complex litigation, challenges presented by class action multiplicity, and the evolving nature of legal practice in the post pandemic era. Elevated to the bench from partnership, Justice Ward shares her unique understanding of the interactions between corporate lawyers and the courts - discussing procedura...
1 Nov 2022
On Just Terms EP4: Shared ownership a positive equation between insurers and corporates
In this episode of On Just Terms, Jason Betts is joined by Cain Jackson Partner of Wotton Kearney and Paul O'Brien Director of YPOL. Together they discuss the growth in class actions and its impact on insurance markets, as well as the ESG exposures shaping the next chapter of risk. From the impact of litigation trends on insurance markets, through reconciling individual stakeholder interests, and how consideration of corporate culture may be being overshadowed by climate concerns – this conve...
26 Oct 2022
On Just Terms EP3: Why it shouldn’t feel ‘unnatural’ to have a litigator at the planning table
In this episode of On Just Terms Jason Betts is joined by two of Herbert Smith Freehills partners, Aoife Xuereb and Bryony Adams, to discuss emerging themes in the litigation and regulatory contexts, perspectives on product liability and Anti-Money Laundering and Counter-Terrorism Financing (AMLCTF), and the meaning of commerciality for litigators. Their discussion covers the observance of overseas trends in ESG, cyber and data considering Australia’s commercial litigation framework’s respons...
18 Oct 2022
On Just Terms EP2: Increased risks, but riskier depends on context with Mark Rigotti, AICD
In this episode of On Just Terms, Herbert Smith Freehills Partner Jason Betts is joined by Mark Rigotti Managing Director and CEO of the Australian Institute of Company Directors to discuss the changing risk environment for corporate Australia, building climate and cyber capability and the direction of corporate governance. Mark comments on the risk environment, shares insights from the AICD on the agenda for boards, and the changing importance of corporate culture, and change.
18 Oct 2022
On Just Terms EP1: Balance, benefit and burden with Arlene Tansey, NED
In this episode of On Just Terms, Herbert Smith Freehills Partner Jason Betts is joined by Non Executive Director of numerous Australian listed entities Arlene Tansey to discuss how Australian corporations are navigating the complexity of their litigation and regulatory environments. Their discussion covers how listed entities approach corporate governance, the changing risk environment from re-emergence of royal commissions to continued growth in class actions, increasingly proactive ...
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