On the School Bus with Dr. Spates
Claim This Podcastby Dr. Krishna Darlene Spates
Podcast Overview
<p>Welcome to the school leadership podcast dedicated to advancing creativity and innovation in education. No matter the seat you lead from, this podcast is your vehicle for creative ideas, bold school leadership, and field-tested strategies that work where it counts—in schools.</p><p><strong>WARNING</strong> ⚠️ <span>This podcast is exclusively for two groups of people: the passionate school leaders who show up every day </span>with a relentless focus on improving student outcomes and transforming students’ TK-12 school experiences <span>and the once-passionate leaders who may have lost a bit of their spark and just need a dose of inspiration to find their way back.</span></p><p>Each week, we invite innovators in education from across the country, doing the real work in schools to hop on the school bus with me -- Dr. Spates, the Proud Principal of a vibrant Los Angeles County Middle School Community. Together, we uncover what’s really working in schools—tapping into each guest’s “zone of genius” to give you one practical, school-tested strategy you can bring back to your learning community.</p><p>Because our children, families, and communities are counting on us to lead with urgency, care, and purpose.</p><p>Let’s reimagine what’s possible in education, together —one ride at a time.</p>
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June 10, 2026
Ep 25 | Season 1 Finale
<h3>24 Conversations Later: What This Season Taught Me About Leadership</h3><p><br></p><p>Monday was my last day on calendar for the school year. A few days later, my family and I headed to Lake Arrowhead for some much-needed rest and reflection. If you know me, you know I love being outside. There is something about the trees, the mountains, and the water that soothes my soul.</p><p>Sitting in an Airbnb cabin overlooking beautiful Lake Arrowhead, I decided to record the Season One finale of On the School Bus with Dr. Spates.</p><p><span>After 24 conversations with educators, leaders, parents, advocates, and changemakers, I decided to take one final ride before summer break and reflect on the lessons that challenged, affirmed, and changed me as a school leader. What began as a desire to learn quickly became something much more meaningful. These conversations stretched my thinking, reinforced my beliefs, challenged my assumptions, and ultimately shaped the way I lead.</span></p><p><span>In this special season finale, I share five key leadership lessons that emerged from this season of </span>On the School Bus with Dr. Spates and how those lessons continue to shape my work as a principal.</p><h3>In This Episode, We Discuss:</h3><p>🚌 Why relationships remain the foundation of every great school</p><p>🚌 What students taught me about belonging, challenge, and possibility</p><p>🚌 The importance of viewing parents and caregivers as true partners</p><p>🚌 Why courage is a requirement for leadership</p><p>🚌 The role hope plays in creating meaningful change in schools</p><p>🚌 Why care may be the most underrated superpower in education</p><p>🚌 Reflections on closing one chapter and preparing for a new opportunity as a high school principal</p><h3>Thought</h3><p>"You can never outwork or outperform somebody who cares."</p><h3>Thank You for Riding Along</h3><p>As we close Season One, I want to thank every guest who shared their wisdom, every listener who spent time with us each week, and every educator, caregiver, and student who inspires this work.</p><p>We have already begun recording Season Two and will return September 1, 2026, with new conversations, new ideas, and new opportunities to learn together.</p><p>Until then, enjoy a well-deserved summer of rest, reflection, and renewal.</p><p>Thank you for riding on the school bus with me.</p><p><span>We have already begun recording Season Two and will return September 1, 2026, with new conversations, new ideas, and new opportunities to learn together.</span></p><p><br></p><p><span>Connect with Dr. Spates</span></p><p><span>🌐 Website: KrishnaSpates.com</span></p><p><span>🎙️ Podcast Website: OnTheSchoolBusWithDrSpates.com</span></p><p><span>📧 Email: hello@OnTheSchoolBusWithDrSpates.com</span></p><p><span>📱 Follow: @OnTheSchoolBusWithDrSpates</span></p>
April 27, 2026
Hope Isn’t a Strategy: Dr. David Cash on Relentless School Leadership for Equity & Innovation
<p>In this engaging conversation, <strong>Dr. David Cash</strong> shares his insights on <strong>effective school leadership</strong>, <strong>community engagement</strong>, and the <strong>relentless pursuit of equity</strong> in schools. Drawing on decades of experience, Dr. Cash explores how leaders can create lasting change by <strong>listening deeply</strong>, <strong>building trust</strong>, and <strong>taking bold, strategic risks</strong> that put <strong>students, families, and communities first</strong>.</p><p>If you’re a TK–12 school leader seeking <strong>authentic strategies</strong>, <strong>professional growth</strong>, and <strong>hope-filled inspiration</strong>, this episode is a must-listen.</p><p><br></p><p>💡 <strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p><ul><li>Focus leadership on <strong>children, parents, and communities</strong>.</li><li><strong>Listen deeply</strong>—especially in politically charged climates.</li><li>Real change starts with <strong>community collaboration and understanding</strong>.</li><li><strong>Small wins</strong> can lead to larger systemic shifts.</li><li>Support and empower <strong>informal leaders</strong> in your team.</li><li><strong>Transparency</strong> builds trust during bold change.</li><li><strong>Hope isn’t a strategy</strong>—focus on doing the work well.</li><li>Stay <strong>relentless</strong> in pursuing equity and innovation.</li><li>Take <strong>quiet reflection time</strong> to lead with clarity.</li></ul><h3><br></h3><p>🕒 <strong>Chapters</strong></p><p>00:00 – Navigating Political and Social Challenges in Education</p><p>07:46 – Creative Strategies for Addressing Inequities</p><p>13:36 – Empowering Leaders at All Levels</p><p>17:09 – Engaging the Community for Student Success</p><p>20:23 – Balancing Boldness with Strategy in Leadership</p><p>27:22 – The Importance of Hope and Courage in Education</p><p>32:33 – Taking Risks for Positive Impact</p><p>36:37 – Personal Reflections and Leadership Strategies</p><h3><br></h3><p>🎧 <strong>Memorable Sound Bites</strong></p><ul><li>“Hope is essential, but not a strategy.”</li><li>“It’s about the kids.”</li><li>“You have to be relentless in change.”</li></ul><h3><br></h3><p>🔑 <strong>Keywords</strong></p><p>leadership, education, equity, innovation, community engagement, risk-taking, school leadership, strategies, mentorship, professional development, teacher leadership, courageous leadership, K–12 education, educational change, superintendent insights, school transformation</p><p><br></p><p>👤 <strong>Guest</strong></p><p><strong>Dr. David Cash</strong></p><p>Clinical Professor, University of Southern California Rossier School of Education (USC) | Retired Superintendent | Trial Lawyer</p><p>📧 Email: <a href="mailto:cashcounsel@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">cashcounsel@gmail.com</a></p><h3><br></h3><p>🚌<strong> On the School Bus with Dr. Spates</strong></p><p>So here we are. <strong>On the School Bus with Dr. Spates</strong> — a vehicle (a metaphorical school bus) for learning, growing, laughing, stretching our thinking, and being inspired together.</p><p>This podcast is exclusively for two groups of people:</p><ol><li><strong>The passionate school leaders</strong> who show up every day determined to improve student outcomes and transform TK–12 school experiences, and</li><li><strong>The once-passionate leaders</strong> who may have lost a bit of their spark and just need a dose of inspiration to find their way back.</li></ol><p><br></p><p>As the culture says: <strong>#WeAreNotForEverybody</strong> — and that’s perfectly fine with me.</p><p><br></p><p>📬<strong> Connect with Dr. Krishna Darlene Spates</strong></p><p><strong>Website:</strong> KrishnaSpates.com</p><p><strong>Email:</strong> hello@OnTheSchoolBusWithDrSpates.com</p><p><strong>Instagram • YouTube • TikTok • Facebook:</strong> @OnTheSchoolBusWithDrSpates</p><p><strong>LinkedIn:</strong> Krishna Spates, Ed.D.</p><p><br></p><p>📸<strong> Production Studio</strong></p><p>Recorded at <strong>661 Creators Space</strong> — a creative studio dedicated to amplifying local voices through high-quality audio and visual production.</p><p><strong>Website:</strong> 661CreatorsSpace.com</p><p><strong>Instagram:</strong> @661CreatorsSpace</p><p><strong>Email:</strong> 661creatorsspace@gmail.com</p><p><br></p><p>🎼<strong> Music</strong></p><p><strong>Theme Song:</strong> “Call of Duty”</p><p><strong>Artist:</strong> Mutanix</p><p>Instagram: @mutanixs</p><p>Email: mutanixmedia@gmail.com</p><p>Used with permission. All rights reserved.</p><p><br></p><p>💛<strong> Support the Work</strong></p><p>If this episode inspired you, please follow, rate, and share with another school leader. Our students, families, and communities are counting on us.</p>
April 20, 2026
Ep 23 | George Couros on the 80/80 Rule: What Actually Moves Schools Forward
<p>In Episode 23 of On the School Bus with Dr. Spates, I had the opportunity to sit down with George Couros to talk about what it really means to move from conflict to community in today’s schools.</p><p>This conversation pushed my thinking as a leader. We talked about how shifting from “buy-in” to true ownership can transform a school community, and how creating space for people to contribute their ideas leads to stronger, more sustainable change.</p><p>We also explored the role of AI in education—how it can create tension, but also opportunity when approached with intentionality and a focus on learning. George reminded me that innovation isn’t about the tools we use, but about the mindset we bring and the relationships we build.</p><p>If you’re leading through change, resistance, or uncertainty, this episode will challenge you to reflect, listen, and lead in a way that moves your community forward while honoring relationships and staying grounded in what matters most—our students.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Episode Takeaways</strong></p><ul><li>Ownership over buy-in leads to stronger, more sustainable change</li><li>The best ideas in a school can come from anyone—leaders must create space for them</li><li>AI should be introduced through <strong>experience and value</strong>, not mandates or fear</li><li>Leadership starts with self-reflection—point at yourself first</li><li>Inviting challenge builds trust and strengthens community</li><li>Spend time developing those who are ready to grow—the 80/80 mindset</li><li>Listening to even one voice can move an entire organization forward</li><li>Growth requires courage—don’t get used to environments that limit your potential</li><li>Celebrate your growth—clap for yourself and recognize progress</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Practical Leadership Moves</strong></p><ul><li>Replace “buy-in” with <strong>co-creation and ownership</strong></li><li>Invite dissent in the room, not in the parking lot</li><li>Start AI conversations with <strong>concerns first, then possibilities</strong></li><li>Model learning—don’t mandate it</li><li>Create systems that elevate <strong>all voices, not just the loudest</strong></li><li>Focus your energy on those ready to grow—they will influence others</li><li>Be transparent when decisions are non-negotiable</li></ul><p><br></p><p>🚌 About the Podcast</p><p>So here we are. On the School Bus with Dr. Spates — a vehicle (a metaphorical school bus) for learning, growing, laughing, stretching our thinking, and being inspired together. This podcast is exclusively for two groups of people: the passionate school leaders who show up every day determined to improve student outcomes and transform TK–12 education, and the once-passionate leaders who just need a spark to find their way back.</p><p>As the culture says: #WeAreNotForEverybody — and that’s perfectly fine with me.</p><p><br></p><p>📬 Connect with George Couros </p><p>Website & Blog: https://georgecouros.com</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/George-Couros/author/B016Z06O5S?ccs_id=ed64d1a6-ff20-4a54-9944-56cc23d1c625" rel="nofollow">Purchase the Books on Amazon</a></p><p>Blog Post On Becoming a Writer: h<a href="https://georgecouros.com/want-to-write-a-book-start-a-blog/" rel="nofollow">https://georgecouros.com/want-to-write-a-book-start-a-blog/</a></p><p>Email: <span>georgecouros@gmail.com</span></p><p>LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgecourosim/</p><p>The Innovators Mindset Podcast:</p><ul><li><strong>Apple Podcasts</strong>: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-innovators-mindset-podcast/id1155968930</li><li><strong>Spotify</strong>: https://open.spotify.com/show/3UU0vQeUPnCEhZVUoZT76v</li><li><strong>Soundcloud</strong>: https://soundcloud.com/user-427776484</li></ul><p><br></p><p>📬 Connect with Dr. Krishna Darlene Spates</p><p>Website: ontheschoolbuswithdrspates.com</p><p>Website: KrishnaSpates.com</p><p>Email: hello@OnTheSchoolBusWithDrSpates.com</p><p>Instagram • YouTube • TikTok • Facebook: @OnTheSchoolBusWithDrSpates</p><p>LinkedIn: Krishna Spates, Ed.D.</p><p><br></p><p>📸 Production Studio</p><p>Recorded at 661 Creators Space</p><p>Website: 661CreatorsSpace.com</p><p>Instagram: @661CreatorsSpace</p><p>Email: 661creatorsspace@gmail.com</p><p><br></p><p>🎼 Music</p><p>Theme Song: “Call of Duty” — Mutanix</p><p>Instagram: @mutanixs</p><p>Email: mutanixmedia@gmail.com</p><p>Used with permission.</p><p><br></p><p>💛 Support the Work</p><p>If this episode inspired you, please like, comment, subscribe, and share with another school leader. Watch the playlist on YouTube while you're multi-tasking: Listen here. Our students, families, and communities are counting on us.</p><p><br></p>
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- What is On the School Bus with Dr. Spates?
<p>Welcome to the school leadership podcast dedicated to advancing creativity and innovation in education. No matter the seat you lead from, this podcast is your vehicle for creative ideas, bold school leadership, and field-tested strategies that work where it counts—in schools.</p><p><strong>WARNING</strong> ⚠️ <span>This podcast is exclusively for two groups of people: the passionate school leaders who show up every day </span>with a relentless focus on improving student outcomes and transforming students’ TK-12 school experiences <span>and the once-passionate leaders who may have lost a bit of their spark and just need a dose of inspiration to find their way back.</span></p><p>Each week, we invite innovators in education from across the country, doing the real work in schools to hop on the school bus with me -- Dr. Spates, the Proud Principal of a vibrant Los Angeles County Middle School Community. Together, we uncover what’s really working in schools—tapping into each guest’s “zone of genius” to give you one practical, school-tested strategy you can bring back to your learning community.</p><p>Because our children, families, and communities are counting on us to lead with urgency, care, and purpose.</p><p>Let’s reimagine what’s possible in education, together —one ride at a time.</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
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