by Kaisa & Alenka
Onchain, Honestly is a conversation with the operators actually building crypto companies. Kaisa and Alenka sit down with founders and leaders to talk about what the pitch decks leave out: go-to-market, hiring, revenue, real traction, and the unglamorous mechanics of turning a protocol or product into a business. No hype, no theater. Just honest conversations about what works, what doesn't, and what it actually takes to build onchain.
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July 9, 2026
<p>In this episode, Ashwin Pampati, Senior Vice President at Aptos Foundation, discusses how Aptos is evolving from generalized blockchain infrastructure into a more focused ecosystem built around trading, stablecoin movement, and AI-related infrastructure.</p><p>We cover how the foundation thinks about building and incubating products and why financial applications in crypto now require a much higher bar for capital and customer trust.</p><p>We also explore their approach to ecosystem development, their perspective on emerging markets, remittances, and stablecoin-powered financial access as well as the core differentiators that define the network today.</p><p>—<br>Ashwin Pampati LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashwinpampati/?skipRedirect=true">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashwinpampati/?skipRedirect=true</a> </p><p>Aptos: <a href="https://aptosnetwork.com/foundation">https://aptosnetwork.com/foundation</a> <br>Alea Research: <a href="https://alearesearch.io/">https://alearesearch.io/</a> </p><p>Alea Research X: <a href="https://x.com/AleaResearch">https://x.com/AleaResearch</a> </p><p>Spotify: </p><p>Apple:</p><p>Alenka X: <a href="https://x.com/alenka_on_x">https://x.com/alenka_on_x</a> </p><p>Alenka LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alena-shmalko/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/alena-shmalko/</a> </p><p>Kaisa X: <a href="https://x.com/kaisakaisa_">https://x.com/kaisakaisa_</a> </p><p>Kaisa LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbnV3TFY1a2ZlVFZaYnRud1NtbGh1V0VObGtHZ3xBQ3Jtc0tsQzlUMlJsRFFYUFpncmcwNEM1Wk9seUMyTGltdUZNeUszN29vbnVpbXZiTTItM2tWdS1NNmVxQ3NWZzdzZDZjQTdSNjIxQ3I3UFdwREpZcW14MFYzcWkyUzNRM0VlcU1IQ0JCNC1QMWpHVTFtcmhpRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fkaisa-k-4aa212194%2F&v=YlQe1ZN3nJk"> </a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaisa-k-4aa212194/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaisa-k-4aa212194/</a> </p><p>—</p><p>DISCLAIMER: This Content is Provided Solely for Informational and Educational Purposes. It does Not Constitute Financial, Investment, or Legal Advice.</p>
July 1, 2026
<p>In this episode, Henrique Sousa Dias, Product Lead for Liquid Lane at Symbiotic, discusses why liquidity has become one of the biggest bottlenecks for tokenized assets and what it will take for RWAs, credit, and on-chain finance to scale.</p><p><br>We cover how Symbiotic is expanding beyond restaking into a broader capital efficiency layer, how Liquid Lane aims to make tokenized assets more liquid and composable across DeFi, and what changes with V2.</p><p>We also discuss capital efficiency, fees, and value capture, the due diligence and whitelisting process for RWAs, the risks institutions need to consider, and why better liquidity infrastructure could unlock the next wave of adoption for tokenized credit, insurance, and real-world assets.</p><p>—</p><p><br>Henrique Sousa Dias LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/henrique-dias-pt50/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/henrique-dias-pt50/</a> </p><p>Henrique Sousa Dias X: <a href="https://x.com/0xhenrique_d">https://x.com/0xhenrique_d</a> </p><p>Symbiotic: <a href="https://symbiotic.fi/">https://symbiotic.fi/</a> </p><p>Alea Research: <a href="https://alearesearch.io/">https://alearesearch.io/</a> </p><p>Alea Research X: <a href="https://x.com/AleaResearch">https://x.com/AleaResearch</a> </p><p>Spotify: </p><p>Apple:</p><p>Alenka X: <a href="https://x.com/alenka_on_x">https://x.com/alenka_on_x</a> </p><p>Alenka LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alena-shmalko/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/alena-shmalko/</a> </p><p>Kaisa X: <a href="https://x.com/kaisakaisa_">https://x.com/kaisakaisa_</a> </p><p>Kaisa LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbnV3TFY1a2ZlVFZaYnRud1NtbGh1V0VObGtHZ3xBQ3Jtc0tsQzlUMlJsRFFYUFpncmcwNEM1Wk9seUMyTGltdUZNeUszN29vbnVpbXZiTTItM2tWdS1NNmVxQ3NWZzdzZDZjQTdSNjIxQ3I3UFdwREpZcW14MFYzcWkyUzNRM0VlcU1IQ0JCNC1QMWpHVTFtcmhpRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fkaisa-k-4aa212194%2F&v=YlQe1ZN3nJk"> </a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaisa-k-4aa212194/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaisa-k-4aa212194/</a> </p><p>—</p><p>DISCLAIMER: This Content is Provided Solely for Informational and Educational Purposes. It does Not Constitute Financial, Investment, or Legal Advice.</p>
June 23, 2026
<p><br>In this episode, Abi Dharshan, Head of Product at Zerion discusses how they evolved from a DeFi portfolio tracker into a wallet infrastructure company powering both consumer and B2B crypto experiences.</p><p>We cover why wallets remain one of the most important interfaces in crypto, how Zerion thinks about the wallet as distribution and data as the business, and why high-quality interpreted wallet data is still difficult to build in-house.</p><p>We also discuss Zerion’s revenue model, including swap fees, premium subscriptions, API contracts, and future opportunities around cards and agentic workflows. Abi also shares lessons from launching and sunsetting ZERO Network, the limits of the fat wallet thesis, and Zerion’s broader vision for the future.</p><p>—</p><p><br>Abi Dharshan LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/abishekdharshan/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/abishekdharshan/</a> </p><p>Abi Dharshan X: <a href="https://x.com/abishek">https://x.com/abishek</a> </p><p>Zerion: <a href="https://www.zerion.io/">https://www.zerion.io/</a> </p><p>Alea Research: <a href="https://alearesearch.io/">https://alearesearch.io/</a> </p><p>Alea Research X: <a href="https://x.com/AleaResearch">https://x.com/AleaResearch</a> </p><p>Spotify: </p><p>Apple:</p><p>Alenka X: <a href="https://x.com/alenka_on_x">https://x.com/alenka_on_x</a> </p><p>Alenka LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/alena-shmalko/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/alena-shmalko/</a> </p><p>Kaisa X: <a href="https://x.com/kaisakaisa_">https://x.com/kaisakaisa_</a> </p><p>Kaisa LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbnV3TFY1a2ZlVFZaYnRud1NtbGh1V0VObGtHZ3xBQ3Jtc0tsQzlUMlJsRFFYUFpncmcwNEM1Wk9seUMyTGltdUZNeUszN29vbnVpbXZiTTItM2tWdS1NNmVxQ3NWZzdzZDZjQTdSNjIxQ3I3UFdwREpZcW14MFYzcWkyUzNRM0VlcU1IQ0JCNC1QMWpHVTFtcmhpRQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fkaisa-k-4aa212194%2F&v=YlQe1ZN3nJk"> </a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaisa-k-4aa212194/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaisa-k-4aa212194/</a> </p><p>—</p><p><br>DISCLAIMER: This Content is Provided Solely for Informational and Educational Purposes. It does Not Constitute Financial, Investment, or Legal Advice.</p><p><br></p>
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Onchain, Honestly is a conversation with the operators actually building crypto companies.
Kaisa and Alenka sit down with founders and leaders to talk about what the pitch decks leave out: go-to-market, hiring, revenue, real traction, and the unglamorous mechanics of turning a protocol or product into a business.
No hype, no theater. Just honest conversations about what works, what doesn't, and what it actually takes to build onchain.
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