Open your graves to us. As self-identified adult goths, Vesta and Heather dig into the lives of adult goths and goth-adjacent friends. We get into the psychological and sociological experience of living in this subculture when it’s not a phase, mom (but on that note, tell me about your mother). You will not find music reviews or makeup tutorials here, but music, aesthetics, and club gossip will inevitably bleed into the conversation. Let us dig up the deeply human remains: Religion. Sex stuff. Gatekeeping. Substance abuse. Family. Being in the same clubs with all of your exes until you die.
74 - On Dissonance and Resonance
Recorded from Jake’s white linen adorned home in his absence, Heather and Vesta discuss amongst many things, the recent convergence of so many goth events on one weekend, showing that what can seem like a cohesive community easily factions off into sub-groups, pulled between Thrill Kill Kult, Suicide Commando, Christian Death, and also amongst our regular club nights. We discuss whether hope still exists in the language and aesthetics of despair when words are spells, the idolatry and abjection of Rozz Williams, and what our need for ritual suggests about neurodiversity. And apparently we are going camping.
Honorable mention to some deathrock clubs that slipped the mind at the time of recording: Purgatory, Batastrophe, Gallows
13 Feb 2026
Existential Dread.. (but you can dance to it) In conversation with returning guest DAVEY HAVOK!!!!
The Black Sun is Bleeding Silver!
As Davey himself put it, AFI's newest album, "Silver Bleeds The Black Sun," is a litany of sonic flares honoring and signaling the Goth community. Or as Heather put it, "Shots Fired."
If you listen to our podcast as a fellow lover of that
"Dark, Gothy shit," (TM)
........We IMPLORE you to listen to this album. STAT.
Join us as we take a hope(less/full) look into the stark Abyss and discuss this new aural evolution for AFI, with quite possibly the most cerebrally tantalizing, but despair-laden fatalistic lyrics this side of Mulholland Drive. (SELAH)
Oh, and check out Davey's colorful life as a Writer here:
https://substack.com/@daveyhavok
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Fast-Angeles-Davey-Havok/dp/0985957212
13 Jan 2026
72 - Memento Mori, Carpe Noctem
Happy-ish new year. This was recorded in November 2025, and due to late publishing has become a bit of a time capsule, as things have changed since this recording. We revisit the topic of “memento mori” and the end of life, finding light in the darkness, relationship struggles and attachment, and surviving Halloween. Heather’s father has since passed, and we dedicate this episode to the memory of Bill Aldridge.
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