These podcasts on the Spiritual Insights of Marie Routchine, founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle, are the conversations between two long time members of the OL+E, Kevin Pugh and Larry Van Vleet, to show how Marie’s unique understanding of traditional spiritual work can practically assist anyone interested in developing themselves first as an individual and then, ultimately, as an enlightened contributor to society. Marie founded the Order of the Lily and the Eagle over 100 years ago along with the co-founder Dimitri Semelas.
Her hope was to create a new, undistorted vehicle for the dissemination of traditional spiritual teaching so that a world of strong, free and morally conscience individuals might become something valued in the world. We believe that the powerful insights that came out of her creation are truly amazing in their capacity to empower change in one’s life and we hope to share at least some of that excitement with you here. Further information on the Order of the Lily and the Eagle is available at archatoz.net or lilyandeagle.org or via email to lilyandeagle@googlemail.com.
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Kevin Pugh and Larry Van Vleet
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education · religion & spirituality · society & culture
This podcast is the 9th in our Series 3 podcasts on the Insights of Marie Routchine/Dupre, founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle. In this episode we take a quick look at some practical ways to deal with the problem of bad behavior. We all run into unpleasant behavior from time to time, but are we really very effective in how we deal with it? This talk aims to arm us with some new ideas and tools about how to approach this common problem. Contact: lilyandeagle@google...
4 Jan 2026
Series 3-8: Self-Change Techniques
This podcast is the 8th in our Series 3 podcasts on the Insights of Marie Routchine who was the founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle. In this episode we briefly look at one self-change technique, a spiritual technique, that is particularly effective when used by someone who wishes to change themselves. This self-change is not difficult, but it does require committed and sustained effort to bring about a lasting result. Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com www.archatoz.net ____...
26 Oct 2025
Series 3 - 7 - On Being Happy
This podcast is the 7th in our Series 3 podcasts on the Insights of Marie Routchine/Dupre, founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle. In this episode we briefly look at what it might mean to “be happy” in our daily lives. Everyone almost without exception says that they want to be “happy” but being truly happy seems quite elusive for a great many people. Why is that the case and how can we begin looking at happiness a little differently so that we may improve our chance...
28 Aug 2025
Series 3 - 6: Freedom
This podcast is the 6th in our Series 3 podcasts on the Insights of Marie Routchine/Dupre, founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle. In this episode we take a quick look at how the Order views freedom and how we might apply that view to ourselves and our struggles with its practical application. Freedom is a key principle for the Order and one of the foundational elements of any true Initiatic teaching. However, it is also something that can often be misunderstood and/...
2 Aug 2025
Series 3 - 5 - Similarity and Difference
This podcast is the 5th in our Series 3 podcasts on the Insights of Marie Routchine/Dupre, founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle. In this episode we take a brief look at why the Order considers it important to understand the place of Similarity and Difference in human life. From the Order’s perspective, dissimilarity or difference is one of the most critical yet often unrecognized Laws of Nature. It is central to any effort to discover and affirm a personal individu...
13 Jul 2025
Series 3 - 4 - The Spirit
In this episode we continue our discussion of a person’s Triple Constitution by examining our third hypostases – the Spirit or Mind. The activity of Mind or Spirit is generally easier to distinguish than that of the Emotional nature or Soul, but again we often have only a vague understanding of the Spirit’s true place and role in the correct functioning of our being. This podcast clarifies some of these issues and show how the Spirit can act to bring about greater balance in our l...
12 Jul 2025
Series 3 - 3 - The Soul or Psyche
In this OL+E podcast we cover the Soul or the Emotional or Psychic nature that we all have. This has always been a very confusing subject and one which is often mixed up with elements of the Spirit, Mind and Body. Understanding the Soul’s particular role and constitution is critical to any successful attempt at Spiritual work and in this podcast we attempt to shed some light on these distinctions. Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com ____________________________________________________...
11 Jul 2025
Series 3 - 2 - The Physical Body
Continuing our 3rd series of OL+E podcast discussions on the Insights of Marie Routchine-Dupre, founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle, this podcast examines the first (and easiest to recognize) component of our Triple Constitution – the Body. We all have a body, that is beyond dispute, but do we really understand the Body’s particular role in our overall Being or the specific elements it requires for living a healthy and balanced life? Do you ever wonder why we even have ...
10 Jun 2025
Series 3 - 1 Our Triple Constitution
This is the first OL+E podcast in our third series on the Insights of Marie Routchine-Dupre, the founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle. In this podcast we chat about our physical Body, our Soul or Psyche, and our Spirit or Mind. Or we can say: what we sense, what we 'feel' and what we think. We can also say 'our Emotional or Psychic nature' for the Soul, and 'our Mental nature' for the Spirit. Our aim is to distinguish between these three underlying states so that we can begin...
9 Oct 2023
Series 2-5: Chat on our Personality
In this OL+E podcasts on the Insights of Marie Routchine-Dupre, we explore what "Personality" is from the Order's point of view. We look at why developing a free and independent personality is the foundation of all our own work. Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com ______________________________________________________
8 Oct 2023
Series 2-4: Exploring what is right or wrong for you
In this is OL+E podcast on Marie's Insights, we explore some thoughts on what goes into knowing what is right or wrong for us. This is difficult to know and everything around us stuffs us with alien points of view that often keep us from expressing who we really are. Unfortunately, no one can discover or express their own dissimilar personality if we measure who we are based on what other people are thinking and feeling. These are the external influences that we must ...
7 Oct 2023
Series 2-3: How to be Happy
This OL+E podcast on the Insights of Marie Routchine-Dupre, we take a look at something that is both critically important in self-initiation and self-development, the genuine need of each and everyone - the need to be happy. In general, we have found that there is a great deal of confusion over what it means to be happy. Yet, from the Order's perspective, being "happy" is essential to the first step in our true Initatic work. Happiness is, in essence, to become normal and balance...
6 Oct 2023
Series 2-2: Working with the Order
This OL+E podcast on the Insights of Marie Routchine-Dupre, looks at what it means to work with the Order, and how the OL+E attempts to help people apply the Teachings in a practical manner in their daily life. Change comes about in a vast number of ways and our job is to help everyone to find out what works for them. You may be surprised at what this means for your own personal work. Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com ______________________________________________________
5 Oct 2023
Series 2-1: What is the Order of the Lily and Eagle
This OL+E podcast discusses what is the purpose of the Order of the Lily and Eagle which was founded by Marie Routchine-Dupre in 1915. In this episode we talk about what the Order is and how it provides practical guidance for someone interested in the work of transformation. We also discuss about how our approach to the work of the Order takes place, and how someone can become involved in our work. Contact: lilyandeagle@googlemail.com ____________________________________________...
19 Dec 2020
Insight Talk # 4 - On Obstacles to Expressing Dissimilarity
This is the 4th of our podcasts on the insights of Marie Routchine the founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle. We discuss the idea that we are all dissimilar and uniquely, and we cannot be truly happy and productive, until we discover how to manifest our uniqueness. We look at how dissimilarity gets distorted by the environment around us. Understanding these distortions is Marie’s 4th insight, and is why we lose connection with what we truly are. Contact: lilya...
3 Sept 2020
The Insights of Marie Routchine - Introductory Talk #1
This podcast is the first in a series on the insights of Marie Routchine, co-founder of the Order of the Lily and the Eagle. It serves both as an introduction to Marie’s vision regarding the work of personal change as well an introduction to the on-going work of the Order today. Starting with some background on the Order itself, we then go into what is Marie’s fundamental insight - the idea of “freedom” and freedom’s absolutely essential role in support of human happiness. ...
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