Out of Line with Tiffany Scott

About Out of Line with Tiffany Scott

Too many companies spend more time managing feelings, power dynamics, and internal BS than fixing what’s broken. Decisions get delayed or avoided to keep people comfortable, and accountability disappears. Out of Line is a podcast for leaders who are over that. Each episode features founders and executives who actually run businesses and are willing to talk transparently about leadership, responsibility, and the experiences that shaped how they lead.

Publisher

Tiffany Scott

Category

business

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

3 Mar 2026

Latest episode

13 Oct 2026

Latest episodes

16 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   13 Oct 2026

   Out of Line Ep. 17 | Why 98% of Companies Get Veteran Hiring Wrong | Chip Mardis

   Your company is probably getting veteran hiring wrong, and your HR team has no idea. 🎖️ Less than 2% of Americans have any connection to the military, so most HR leaders and staffing partners walk right past what veterans and military spouses actually bring to the table. Chip Mardis knows both sides of that desk. Army veteran, former captain called up for Desert Storm, and a career HR leader who climbed to chief human resources officer. Now he runs Blue United Sourcing, placing veterans and military spouses into leadership, management, skilled trades, and IT roles. He and Tiffany Scott get into the mentor who told him he was not an entrepreneur, why 98% of corporate America is clueless about military talent, what it feels like to take the uniform off for the last time, the Civilian Ready transition program, running a company with his daughter from 4,000 miles away, and why he had to stop selling before anybody would buy. 👀 ⏱️ CHAPTERS 0:00 Cold open 0:44 Intro 1:26 "You're really not an entrepreneur": a mentor's gut check 3:28 Running a company with his daughter 4,000 miles away 7:54 Army captain, Desert Storm, and getting out 9:27 From Army captain to his hands and knees 11:34 Becoming a first time CHRO 12:09 The 95% retention culture 12:24 Bringing military talent into corporate HR 14:41 The 40% military spouse unemployment problem 15:19 Launching Blue United Sourcing 17:08 Partnering with his daughter 19:13 Let the market tell you what it wants 20:53 Sell, sell, sell and selling nothing 26:42 Why 98% of companies get veteran hiring wrong 27:30 Losing the camaraderie when the uniform comes off 29:39 When the executive team asked for more JMOs 33:44 Where the clients come from: IT, MSPs, referrals 36:44 Why won't HR just look at a resume? 42:20 Turning around a business nobody wanted 47:10 Moneyball, and why HR should be the umpire 51:52 Build the church for the confessional 53:43 Your title is not who you are 55:34 Civilian Ready and life after the uniform 59:27 Where to find Chip and join the talent network 🎖️ EVERYTHING CHIP MENTIONED Join the talent network: https://apply.workable.com/blue-united-sourcing/j/457FAE9D89/ Blue United Sourcing: https://www.blueunitedsourcing.com Contact Chip: https://www.blueunitedsourcing.com/contact-8 Chip on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chipmardis Civilian Ready: https://civilianready.org 🎧 LISTEN EVERYWHERE Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-line-with-tiffany-scott/id1882144516 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OutOfLinePod 💙 If you or a veteran you know is struggling, the Veterans Crisis Line is available 24/7: dial 988 and press 1.

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   8 Sept 2026

   Out of Line EP 16 | Inside Staffing's Big Shakeup: MSPs, AI, and What Comes Next | Bryan Howlin

   Your staffing firm's playbook is expiring and nobody wants to say it out loud. 📉 The big public staffing companies are losing money. The MSP model half the industry is built on is running out of road. And every staffing agency that calls itself "AI agnostic" is one client question away from getting exposed. Bryan Howlin has spent 28 years inside the staffing industry, from the Aerotek engine room to running sales at Revature through a private equity sale, and he's done being polite about where it's all headed. He and Tiffany Scott get into why the big publics are reeling, what's actually replacing the MSP staffing model, what AI in staffing and recruiting really changes, and why "transformation" is the most thrown around word in human capital, usually by people with no plan behind it. If you own a staffing agency, sell staffing, or compete against it, this episode tells you what's coming before your competitors figure it out. 👀 ⏱️ CHAPTERS 0:00 Cold open 0:38 Meet Bryan Howlin: 28 years in staffing 1:35 The staffing shakeup: too many firms, one shrinking pool 4:52 Culture and accountability inside staffing firms 7:30 Quality over quantity in staffing sales 9:52 Bryan's story: Aerotek, Randstad, Revature 13:10 Private equity in staffing 15:32 Everybody knows everybody in this industry 17:09 Offshore recruiting: trust but verify 22:09 Deloitte and the consulting giants moving in 24:10 Shrinking margins: be the best at YOUR thing 26:01 Clients are bringing hiring in house 28:35 Why the MSP model is dying 31:46 "Transformation" with no plan behind it 36:35 The NFL game plan for your career 38:13 AI in staffing and recruiting 41:25 From cocky to humble: be a good person 45:23 The future of staffing and AI compliance 48:32 What's next for Bryan 50:06 Advice for anyone selling staffing 52:50 The wake up call from his wife 🎤 GUEST Bryan Howlin on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-howlin-9447681/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-howlin-9447681/) 🎧 LISTEN EVERYWHERE Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-line-with-tiffany-scott/id1882144516 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-line-with-tiffany-scott/id1882144516) Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N (https://open.spotify.com/show/2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N) Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OutOfLinePod (https://www.youtube.com/@OutOfLinePod) 🔗 FOLLOW OUT OF LINE LinkedIn (Tiffany): https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiffanyscott421 (https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiffanyscott421) LinkedIn (show page): https://www.linkedin.com/company/111447145/ (https://www.linkedin.com/company/111447145/) Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/971274146076562 (https://www.facebook.com/971274146076562) Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffisoutofline (https://www.instagram.com/tiffisoutofline) TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@unbalanced.af (https://www.tiktok.com/@unbalanced.af) #staffingindustry #staffing #MSP

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   25 Aug 2026

   Episode 15, BE KIND, NOT NICE., David Beety, Founder & CEO, 212° Titans

   David Beety named his company after one degree. At 210 water is hot. At 211 it is still just hot. At 212 you get a revolution. In Ep 15 of Out of Line, the Founder and CEO of 212° Titans sits down with Tiffany Scott for an after hours conversation about what that one degree actually costs to reach. Dave does not soften the industry he has spent his career in. His words: staffing, whether we like it or not, has earned the bad reputation that it has. He walks through the STEAM framework he built the company on, why he will not work off a job description and shows up at your office to meet the team instead, and the difference between nice and kind. Nice is you are trying so hard and still not getting it done. Kind is asking what I can do to help you own the expectations. The stories in this one earn their place. Forty three candidates interviewed to put one in front of a client, and the question he asked when that was not enough. The eight million dollar deal and what it took out of him. The assessment he called nonsense right up until it named his own worst weakness out loud, and why he now tells everyone who works around him about it on day one. And the moment in his personal life that turned him into a different kind of leader, which he tells without flinching. Tiffany does not hide behind the mic either. Falling on the sword as the fastest way to disarm somebody. The realization that what stands in the way is ego, and it is never the team's ego, it is ours. Why most companies say their people are the differentiator and she is not sure they know that they are not. And why owning a business is the most uncomfortable thing she has ever done. If you lead a team, sell for a living, or run a company where being liked has quietly started to matter more than being useful, this is the one to sit with. CONNECT WITH DAVID BEETY Website: https://212titans.com (https://212titans.com) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-w-beety-aaa43956 (https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-w-beety-aaa43956) CONNECT WITH TIFFANY SCOTT LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiffanyscott421 (https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiffanyscott421) Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffisoutofline (https://www.instagram.com/tiffisoutofline) TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@unbalanced.af (https://www.tiktok.com/@unbalanced.af) myScout: https://app.myscout.ai (https://app.myscout.ai) Leveling Up: https://leveling-up.net (https://leveling-up.net) LISTEN AND WATCH EVERYWHERE YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OutOfLinePod (https://www.youtube.com/@OutOfLinePod) Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-line-with-tiffany-scott/id1882144516 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-line-with-tiffany-scott/id1882144516) Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N (https://open.spotify.com/show/2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N) New episodes drop Tuesdays at 7am ET. #staffing #staffingindustry #leadership #businesspodcast #salesleadership

4. 

   28 Jul 2026

   How to Predict if Someone Will Be a Great Employee | DR. AL PHILIP-NERI

   From managing maximum-security correctional facilities and stepping into the ring as a competitive fighter to scaling a real estate empire and teaching thousands nationwide, Dr. Al Philip-Neri has led several different lives. But his biggest breakthrough came from decoding the raw human behavior that dictates whether a business explodes or completely falls apart under pressure. Today, he sits down to reveal how leaders can build unbreakable culture, how to read a candidate’s DNA before you ever look at their resume, and the hidden operational drag that is killing your bottom line.In Episode 13 of Out of Line with Tiffany Scott, Dr. Al Philip-Neri breaks down behavioral analytics in hiring, the psychological blueprint of top executive leaders, why your best independent performer will fail as a manager, handling legacy employees and toxic tenured staff, the ultimate framework for operational cohesion under pressure, and a live, unfiltered breakdown of Tiffany’s own behavioral assessment.⏱️ CHAPTERS03:02 — Prison to Psychology: Dr. Al’s unconventional journey.11:01 — The Passion Trap: Hard lessons from business ownership.17:22 — The Real Estate Grind: Scaling teams and heavy travel.22:39 — Tiffany's Live Assessment: Dissecting innate CEO traits.26:30 — Dolphins vs. Eagles: Leadership archetypes and partnerships.28:28 — Behavioral Alignment: Scaling with predictive analytics.31:00 — The Entry-Level Bottleneck: Optimizing high-volume talent.35:06 — The Execution Advantage: Building systems over feelings.36:21 — Teaching Under Pressure: How to cultivate team trust.37:19 — Cultural Audits: Finding bottlenecks in established companies.43:26 — The Manager Mistake: Why top performers often fail as leaders.47:04 — Toxic Legacy Hires: The true financial cost of long tenure.57:23 — Puppets vs. Partners: Reframing middle management's role.01:02:55 — Connecting with Dr. Al: Where to find the book and firm.💬 KEY TAKEAWAYS"Most organizations don't struggle with strategy. They struggle with execution. And execution breaks at the leadership level every single time.""Your culture is a feeling. Cohesion is a system. You can talk about culture all day, but without a systematic framework for alignment, it doesn't mean a thing.""Stop looking at tenure as a leadership skill. We constantly promote people just because they are excellent at their individual job, but that has absolutely nothing to do with their ability to lead others.""If you have a manager who is toxic but brings in money, go do the math with your CFO. When you factor in recruiting, onboarding, lost talent, and culture drag, that 'top producer' is actually costing you millions.""Quit creating environments where your people are constantly walking on eggshells. When fear dictates the workplace, you will never get the execution or the results you are looking for."🔗 CONNECT WITH DR. AL PHILIP-NERI🌐 Website: teamcohesionhq.com 🔗 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/alphilipneri 🔗 Get the Book: theexecutionadvantage.com🎙️ OUT OF LINE WITH TIFFANY SCOTT 🌐 Website: outoflinepod.com ▶️ Subscribe: @outoflinepod 🎙️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-line-with-tiffany-scott/id1882144516 💚 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N#OutOfLine #TiffanyScott #DrAlPhilipNeri #TheExecutionAdvantage #CohesionHQ #HiringStrategy #BehavioralAnalytics #ExecutiveLeadership #CorporateCulture #MiddleManagement #StaffingAndHiring #TeamCohesion #PerformancePsychology

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   14 Jul 2026

   Three Years of Unfiltered Recruiting Secrets Packed Into One Honest Conversation | Shanice Ellis

   From leaving home at 16 to navigating a high-stakes industry, some founders don't just survive the chaos; they thrive in it. When a major life change completely upended her routine, Shanice didn't look for a safety net; she threw herself into launching her own executive search firm. Now, three years later, she has scaled a trans-Atlantic recruitment boutique built entirely on the courage to go out on her own. In Episode 12 of Out of Line with Tiffany Scott, Shanice, Founder of Shelby Staffing Group, breaks down transitioning from corporate staffing to a lean boutique model, managing the messy realities of the first two years in business, resisting the pressure to over-scale or take bad investment advice, breaking into competitive global markets like Austin and New York, navigating the intense demands of being a sole-provider mom, and how relying on authentic relationship-building over cold-calling creates a lasting legacy as a modern executive. 💬 KEY TAKEAWAYS: "If I thought about what was best for me, I would have just gone and worked for another employer. I had to think about what was best for my daughter." "Go back to basics and do what you can on your own until somebody comes along that aligns with your goal and your vision. Don't panic. Just don't panic." "If you trust yourself and your relationships with your clients, let others try to imitate that. No one else is going to be able to imitate your genuine character." "I like being small and keeping things personal. If you scale too fast or chase the wrong investment, it just turns into a numbers game, a conveyor belt where people are gone the second they miss a metric." "Appreciate yourself when you get to wherever it is you're going. Sometimes we just constantly push for 'what's next' and completely burn ourselves out without stopping to realize, 'Actually, I built that.'" 🔗 CONNECT WITH SHANICE: 🌐 Website: shelbystaffinggroup.com 🔗LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/stacibenderepstein12 🎙️ OUT OF LINE WITH TIFFANY SCOTT: 🌐 Website: outoflinepod.com ▶️ Subscribe: @outoflinepod 🎙️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-line-with-tiffany-scott/id1882144516 💚 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N #OutOfLinePodcast #TiffanyScott #WomenInBusiness #ExecutiveSearch #RecruitmentHustle #BoutiqueAgency #SingleMotherhood #FounderJourney #ModernExecutive #AustinTech #LondonBusiness #BusinessDevelopment

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   30 Jun 2026

   Two Decades of Staffing and Recruiting Secrets Packed into One Conversation | Staci Epstein

   Stepping away from a corporate career that feels like your entire identity isn't easy, but building a legacy from scratch demands a total leap of faith. In this episode, I’m sitting down with serial entrepreneur Staci Bender Epstein as she opens up about pivoting from marketing into the unpredictable world of executive staffing, managing a high-stakes business alongside her husband, and learning to stay resilient in a wildly cyclical industry. From navigating high-impact professional milestones to overcoming deep moments of imposter syndrome and personal struggles, Staci proves why staying authentic is the ultimate business superpower. In this episode of Out of Line with Tiffany Scott, Staci Bender Epstein breaks down the shift from metric-driven to passion-driven sales, the mechanics of scaling a modern staffing firm, and why the hybrid contingent model is redefining industry standards. We also dive deep into real strategies for flexing your ask muscle, shifting goals between your 30s and 40s, balancing professional accountability with a romantic partnership, and why we as women must take radical ownership of our value and stop apologizing in executive spaces. ⏱️ CHAPTERS: 00:13 — From LinkedIn Stalking to Best Friends 02:57 — Transitioning from Corporate Marketing to Executive Staffing 06:27 — The Dynamic Duo: Dividing Responsibilities with Your Spouse 09:05 — Passion-Driven vs. Metrics-Driven Business Development 12:09 — How to Scale and Find Growing Clients in an AI World 15:36 — Leveraging Humor, Sora Videos, and AI in Marketing 19:05 — The Shift to Hybrid Contingent Models and Vested Partnerships 24:13 — Succession Planning and Looking Toward Be Group 2.0 32:30 — Tackling Imposter Syndrome and the "60,000 Thoughts" Trap 37:00 — Hard Lessons from the Lows: Calling Off a Wedding to Rebuilding Life 38:58 — Self-Awareness, Accountability, and Radical Resiliency 58:23 — Moving out of Corporate: Advisory Boards and "Doing It Scared" 01:02:36 — Why Women Need to Stop Apologizing and Claim the Boardroom 01:07:52 — Ownership in the Workplace: Asking for the Raise You Deserve 💬 KEY TAKEAWAYS: "In a world of copycats, be an original because authenticity is your superpower." "If you never ask, the answer is always no. Flex your ask muscle and ask for help." "We learn and grow by more of the tougher moments and harder things in life than the things that go right." "If we're 1% better every day, we will do good things, be successful, and come out on top." 🔗 CONNECT WITH STACI BENDER EPSTEIN: 🌐 Website: begroupconnects.com (http://begroupconnects.com) 🔗LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/shanice-ellis-617434194 🎙️ OUT OF LINE WITH TIFFANY SCOTT: 🌐 Website: outoflinepod.com (http://outoflinepod.com) ▶️ Subscribe:   @outoflinepod (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1lhtBKkbdfAC0tSMgWoPiw) 🎙️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-line-with-tiffany-scott/id1882144516 💚 Spotify: (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbVBpc0VHWUs5UWhIa0lOOHJJSndiU0wxZ1Rwd3xBQ3Jtc0tsTHo2VXRjR0IxeVhOMVB6ZDRKWEdSWk1IMDdkX2tTV2otU3dob29xV2VQbXBsamhsdWVxMWhsUXhOSHBXT1NMOWo5RFBrUjAxT0lBVFozazRKWXhpc3pIQWZJdjVJeTl1aEVueGlweVZwLUY3dmtzdw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fopen.spotify.com%2Fshow%2F2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N&v=v1Jg_x9A7JY)https://open.spotify.com/show/2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N #OutOfLine #TiffanyScott #StaciBenderEpstein #BeGroupStaffing #FemaleEntrepreneurs #StaffingIndustry #BusinessGrowth #WomenInBusiness #ExecutiveRecruiting #NoApologies #AuthenticLeadership

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   16 Jun 2026

   The Hidden Reason Great Candidates Never Get Job Offers and Why Veterans Struggle To Get Hired with Sheridan Hall

   After twenty-five years inside the most coveted recruiting seats in the world, including powerhouse brands like Google, Apple, Amazon, Meta, and Nike, most people would be planning a comfortable corporate retirement. But Sheridan Hall saw a glaring, frustrating injustice that he couldn't ignore: the corporate world's massive failure to effectively translate military resumes and integrate transitioning veterans into the workforce. Chasing purpose over corporate safety, Sheridan walked away from the Big Tech net to co-found Operation Hired alongside his brother, Lieutenant Colonel Matt Hall, not just to raise awareness, but to fundamentally fix a broken hiring system for the people the corporate machine continually leaves behind.In this episode of Out of Line with Tiffany Scott, Sheridan Hall breaks down the intense red tape of enterprise-level corporate hiring, the critical communication gaps between military veterans and civilian hiring managers, the launch of their free AI-powered resume generator built specifically to decode military experience, and why true job security lies in the power of networking.⏱️ CHAPTERS01:42 — How Tiffany and Sheridan Met in the Staffing Sandbox03:44 — Sheridan’s Journey: From Hertz Manager Trainee to Silicon Valley Recruiter05:52 — Enterprise Hiring Secrets: The Rationale Behind the Salary Bands07:12 — The Extreme Bureaucracy of Big Tech Offers10:19 — Facebook vs. Apple: Corporate Support for Veteran Initiatives11:42 — The Pandora’s Box of Unreadable Military Resumes16:33 — The Dynamic of Running a Business with Your Brother18:00 — Harsh Startup Truths: Admitting What You Don’t Know20:10 — Rebranding "Sales" into Authentic Consultation24:08 — Navigating the Commercial and Higher Education Staffing Spaces28:07 — Creating a 100% Free AI Resume Generator for Veterans33:57 — Current Staffing Demands and Project-Based Recruiter Hiring35:48 — The 5-Year Vision and Legacy Goals for Operation Hired42:00 — The Brutal Reality of "Blending" Single-Dad Life with Entrepreneurship47:54 — Work-Life Balance Matrix: Crystal Moments vs. Rubber Moments52:40 — How to Scale a B2B Staffing Strategy Across Modern Industries59:00 — Childhood Adventures in Alaska and Adapting to Extreme Changes01:01:30 — Final Entrepreneurial Advice: The 2-Year Financial Safety Runway01:03:55 — Networking is Your Ultimate Job Security Strategy💬 KEY TAKEAWAYS• "There’s a million recruiters like me who look at military resumes, say 'I don't understand what you did,' and move on. Meanwhile, they're probably the most qualified candidates in line." • "Instead of trying to sell, it's just about having a conversation. Dive into what's going on in their world, offer free advice, and see where you can actually help." • "With AI, people are easy to find nowadays. But how do you get them to actually speak with you on the phone? That's still the human touch of recruiting." • "Life has rubber moments and crystal moments. Drop a rubber ball, it bounces back. Drop a crystal ball, it shatters forever. Balance is knowing which one you're holding." • "I have applied for one job in 15 years." — the undeniable ROI of keeping good relationships and constantly networking 🔗 CONNECT WITH SHERIDAN HALL🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheridanhall/🌐 Website: https://operationhired.com/🎙️ OUT OF LINE WITH TIFFANY SCOTT🎙️ Out of Line with Tiffany Scott — real conversations with leaders who don't sugarcoat it.▶️ Subscribe: @outoflinepod🎙️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-line-with-tiffany-scott/id1882144516💚 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N#OutOfLinePodcast #VeteranHiring #CorporateRecruiting #OperationHired #MilitaryTransition #SkillBridge #TechHiring #StaffingAgencies #entrepreneurship #worklifebalance

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   12 May 2026

   Steven Meisels: From WhatsApp Groups to 50-State Staffing | Out of Line Ep. 9

   He didn't come from the staffing industry. He saw friends coming out of college with no job offers and no one helping them — so he started creating WhatsApp groups to connect people with opportunities. Then it became something bigger. Steven Meisels is the Founder of SM Staffing, which now operates nationally across all 50 states. Their model is built around culture fit over credential matching, they don't charge job seekers, and they stay in touch with candidates even when a deal doesn't close. Steven also coaches recruiters and early-stage business owners 1:1 and actively writes about what companies get wrong when building teams. In this episode, we cover: How WhatsApp groups turned into a national staffing firm The moment he realized he wasn't just doing favors — he was running a business What culture fit actually means and why most firms get it wrong Why SM Staffing doesn't charge candidates — and how that shapes everything Staying community-first as you scale to 50 states Coaching recruiters and giving away the playbook publicly What he'd do differently if he was starting over today Connect with Steven: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shlomo-meisels-smstaffing/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/shlomo-meisels-smstaffing/) Website: https://smstaffingjobs.com (https://smstaffingjobs.com) Out of Line with Tiffany Scott — real conversations with leaders who don't sugarcoat it. Subscribe on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OutOfLinePod (https://www.youtube.com/@OutOfLinePod) Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-line-with-tiffany-scott/id1882144516 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-line-with-tiffany-scott/id1882144516) Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N (https://open.spotify.com/show/2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N)

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   28 Apr 2026

   Out of Line Ep. 8 | From Microbiology to a Multi-Company Staffing Empire | Ronnie Hollis

   He walked into staffing with a microbiology degree, a pregnant wife, and zero industry connections — and built an Inc 5000 company that's still standing 20+ years later. In Episode 8 of Out of Line, Tiffany sits down with Ronnie Hollis, founder of Prestige Staffing, Monza Cloud, and Talinaq. Ronnie breaks down surviving the dot-com bust and the Great Recession, the real difference between being a founder and a CEO, how he picked expansion cities with a ratio formula, why he rebuilt his company culture twice, and the mindset shift that came out of a prostate cancer diagnosis. Also in this one: the Mike Willis escalator story, the "A-time / 9:30 PM" rule for founders still carrying a book, and why AI isn't replacing what great recruiters actually do. Connect with Ronnie Hollis: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronnie-hollis-a9655815/ Prestige Staffing: https://www.prestigestaffing.com/ Prestige on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/prestige-staffing/ Out of Line with Tiffany Scott: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OutOfLinePod Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-line-with-tiffany-scott/id1882144516 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N Book Tiffany: https://tiffany-scott.zohobookings.com

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    21 Apr 2026

    Out of Line Ep. 7 | From Music Teacher to Staffing CEO | Alex Martin

    Alex Martin went from teaching 4th grade music in Harlem to running her own boutique recruiting firm in under a decade. In this episode she breaks down how she hit $1.2M in new business in 10 months as a cold start at PlanetHealthcare, why most recruiters are stuck in transactional mode, and what made her finally bet on herself and launch Amaya Staffing Consultants in June 2024. We get into the early Yankees community outreach gig, the jump into healthcare staffing sales at Barton, scaling from Account Manager to Group Manager on a $3M book, the $100K first quarter at Cura Search, and the People Matter philosophy that drives Amaya's work across healthcare, legal, executive, tech, HR, accounting and finance. If you've ever felt like the straight path wasn't built for you, this one will hit. Chapters 00:00 Cold open 01:30 Meet Alex Martin 06:45 Teaching music at Harlem Children's Zone 12:10 The Yankees pivot 18:20 Breaking into healthcare staffing 26:00 $1.2M in 10 months at PlanetHealthcare 34:15 Why transactional recruiting is dying 41:30 Launching Amaya Staffing Consultants 49:00 Know your why 55:20 Advice for anyone betting on themselves Guest Alex Martin, Founder and CEO, Amaya Staffing Consultants LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-martin-61140761/ Web: https://amayastaffing.com Follow Out of Line with Tiffany Scott YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OutOfLinePod Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-line-with-tiffany-scott/id1882144516 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N Instagram: Tiffisoutofline Web: https://outofline.show #OutOfLine #TiffanyScott #AlexMartin #AmayaStaffing #HealthcareRecruiting #FoundersStory #WomenInBusiness

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    14 Apr 2026

    Kimberly Kelly - Leaving a 6-Figure Career Managing 9-Figure Portfolios to Bet on Herself | Out of Line EP 6

    What does it actually take to walk away from a comfortable, stable income and managing 9-figure portfolios ... and start over? In Episode 6 of Out of Line with Tiffany Scott, we sit down with Kimberly Kelly — Founder & Managing Partner of AVENNI Consulting, a talent strategy and workforce transformation firm she launched in January 2026. Before going out on her own, Kim spent 13+ years at Randstad rising to VP of Global Client Solutions, then served as EVP and Managing Director of Client Services Americas at AMS, overseeing 9-figure portfolios and advising Fortune 500 leaders across the Americas and globally. She started as a theater major at Northwestern University. She ended up running global accounts. And now she's building something of her own. 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    7 Apr 2026

    Ryan Clark on Building PeopleShare to $200M and What Comes After | Out of Line Ep. 5

    What does it actually take to build a staffing company from two people and zero dollars to 40 branches, 8 states, and damn near $200 million in annual revenue? Ryan J.Q. Clark did it and this conversation doesn't skip the hard parts. Ryan co-founded PeopleShare in 2005 out of King of Prussia, PA with nothing but a bet on themselves. He was Co-CEO from day one - he was also recruiter, sales guy, receptionist, accountant, and customer service -- you name it, he did it while they built. They survived the 2008 recession, scaled to one of the fastest-growing staffing companies in Pennsylvania, won Best Places to Work from the Philadelphia Business Journal every year since their first year of eligibility — and then sold the company to a international staffing company in 2023. In this episode, we cover: Starting with nothing — two people, self-funded, first office in "KOP" - King of Prussia What almost killed it early on, and how they survived 2008 The moment "survival mode" became something real Going from one office to 40 — what broke and what had to be rebuilt Private equity, the acquisition, and what it felt like What Ryan knows now that he wishes he knew in 2005 Connect with Ryan: 🔗 LinkedIn:   / ryanjqclark   (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbFp1ZjF1Sm5lM2t4OWFpd1JiQ2FLOVc5Qko1Z3xBQ3Jtc0tuaTdxVkkwVU53WUVKSUJKWG9CcG1xYng2TFVCdzhzUklIdTNIR041NEw2QVE0TG5IaHhRYzVJUXF3cERhNTdyYjlCSTJtcGNCREpNbEZrTDI0U3p0ZmhqaTJWV3dFYW9XaWRzd2E4Qm4xbUMwcGx6UQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fryanjqclark&v=Oj14tTwMDWw) 🎙️ Out of Line with Tiffany Scott — real conversations with leaders who don't sugarcoat it. ▶️ Subscribe:    / @outoflinepod   (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1lhtBKkbdfAC0tSMgWoPiw)🎙️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa1gxb1lfbUIyZVNoNUVVdERlSWJ5SUh3MFJGZ3xBQ3Jtc0tsTU5TdmdPZlppRWh5MVpNY1d6elo0WnVjNGtTNkVYRVFsRWtxdXRaRUlEdGJ3eW1wNDNBcGF4Sjd4UEZLNENMbThmeThsUFVvdE5yamI2N3MwNkFrTEJCYm5CVURtQ3lHcEpobld0eTRIUmtZekRGSQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fus%2Fpodcast%2Fout-of-line-with-tiffany-scott%2Fid1882144516&v=Oj14tTwMDWw)💚 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2Lnrene... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa25NZ1IzZmFnZTh5b1E2b2FOakRMMHlzS2czUXxBQ3Jtc0tsLXR2RjVXVnpMdzY2bndDcU1xdXFaVS1SVG9WSnU1bTF5VFZNXzQ0d2pMYkxyTWMwcGZ5dGh1OVg1M2N4a204ZG5lTk11QVdQa1E4em12QmVZQVJlU1ZEcE9DMkxlTWstMGZmNmRBUnhURzdIZ1ZsOA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fopen.spotify.com%2Fshow%2F2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N&v=Oj14tTwMDWw)#OutOfLine (https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/outofline) #RyanClark (https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/ryanclark) #StaffingIndustry (https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/staffingindustry) #Entrepreneurship (https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/entrepreneurship) #Leadership (https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/leadership) #BuildingABusiness (https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/buildingabusiness) #podcaster (https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/podcaster)

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    31 Mar 2026

    Out of Line Ep. 4 | In Good Faith: Blowing the Whistle and Rebuilding From Nothing | Kelli Christina

    Kelli Christina spent 25 years building a career in medical staffing then watched it all collapse after she chose to speak up. In this episode, Kelli shares what it was really like to launch KD-Staffing right before the 2008 recession, survive it, and then lose everything including facing homelessness when lawsuits hit the medical staffing industry in 2010. She didn't walk away. She rebuilt. Her book, In Good Faith, is an international bestseller and a firsthand account of corruption inside the medical staffing industry: the fraud, the cover-ups, and the cost of refusing to look the other way. In this conversation, Kelli gets raw about what it actually took to blow the whistle, what it cost her, and why she'd do it again. She's the founder and CEO of KD-Staffing, a public speaker, a business coach, and host of The Kelli Christina Show. She believes recruitment is an art and she's living proof that integrity is a non-negotiable, even when it's expensive. Preorder In Good Faith here! https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/in-g... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbS04Vk4tSnhsN0RxVjJEOGRkSzRkZUdvc0tRUXxBQ3Jtc0tuU2F3TVdmcmNfc09vYW1xTVplTUxyNk5TTlJnR3J1V0tvaWpTNzc0SjhYSzBfcEFGNGxNNDFFa0FUbVB2QWhldHh6WjV2TW05NWpMbzdkSWU0NDRoOVpQaEZraHg4d2ZlTGVLMFk3aTVySXlObXgwYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.barnesandnoble.com%2Fw%2Fin-good-faith-kelli-christina%2F1148540450&v=x2bIPxPy17A) ⁨ Connect with Kelli: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kelli-dennehey-christina-326ba12a Blog: kellichristinaauthor.com Company: kellidenneheychristina.comKD Staffing: kdstaffing.org YouTube: @kellichristina7804⁩

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    24 Mar 2026

    Out of Line Ep. 3 | The $100 Million Blueprint: Cary Daniel

    Cary Daniel has been in the staffing industry for 30 years, built a company to over $100M in revenue, led three separate businesses to the Inc. 500 and Inc. 5000 lists, and has been involved in over two dozen M&A transactions. He's also one of the most self-aware people I've had the pleasure of sitting across from. In this episode we get into all of it - how he and his co-founder James have run a business together for three decades without a single blowup, why he completely rebuilt the NEXTAFF franchise model from the ground up, what it really costs to trade a W-2 for freedom, and why most people walk out of a keynote fired up and retain nothing by lunch. Cary also shares the story behind the Be LegenDary Landon Daniel Foundation and how he turned one of the hardest moments of his life into something that keeps giving. This one is worth your time. CONNECT WITH CARY DANIEL 🌐 Website: https://www.carydaniel.com (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa3E3VE56ZHd5cGpjTDVrbGdQSFRlTmIxZ2xaUXxBQ3Jtc0trWGZxY1JFMFlaYVlLV2lvYkFhV1ozNTh3ZG1XU3NsQl9XZld5cWFYWFkydFhSYXFxQXlpUnhSNmR3cFhiZG1jcmxHc0hqcm12d2I2cHYwdWJpUEpEaUVNUjhPVHllWVZHTGRiamY0LWFXcFBCc2Z2OA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.carydaniel.com%2F&v=n1XHTUEnWpc) 💼 LinkedIn:   / carydaniel   (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa3NpX2RlSFBOajd0NWNqbjdTZURTMFVuVzFzQXxBQ3Jtc0tranFHbU5vOVZqUVF0c0dDSWhCQzAtM0VTeXJmeG93RVU3dTBDZHFibzMyNlBLemM2Mm1jcDVrQWFLV3h6T3FxQ3phX0Q1MGZaZFRfUWZ5RFJNNVZ0ZTRzLXhYdEgwMmREbURfczBzNGgwWW1vRDlmcw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2Fcarydaniel&v=n1XHTUEnWpc) 🏢 NEXTAFF: https://www.nextaff.com (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbDlJSlZMOUFHUU9ya0xMVG5BcS1sQk1FUE56d3xBQ3Jtc0tuWGlOeUgyZnE2aG1NcHh6NkNfMXpqX2ZPbzliUUF1VkU1WFQ5WTFiTHRZb0hER29RaUxyY1pZSHFjbEdrNUc1UjlsUDctQnRlMTF4Ui1MaU1DX2EzU3JYbkdOUHpSMmIzbjhBdTNRUFRjcXEzYlhPWQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nextaff.com%2F&v=n1XHTUEnWpc) BE LEGENDARY LANDON DANIEL FOUNDATION 🌐 Website: https://belegendaryfoundation.org (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbkRha0JuaER3MWpjaHlLZjVxQ21OalZhQUtuUXxBQ3Jtc0ttaXFCU1FfNF8zSVBCTm1NLU1vX3FMTHRCY2c2QmJjZGEzZ0NWWE4tN05aVTZPNVVteU9LX05BTm0wV2pvSWgta1pwb25fR3FzQ0Rnc0pwYkhpalNUTVJQYkVRQXJBUE5ZMjN3VUF1andiemZJVUMyVQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fbelegendaryfoundation.org%2F&v=n1XHTUEnWpc) 📘 Facebook:   / belegendaryld   (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa2I3ZFN6RnhDVVl5cHhuaTZDY1NkR3NSbnlDQXxBQ3Jtc0trQ0xtbXpsZUF0Szl3MGZXc0Z0QmM1MkRRSzI5VmJPb3JCSmhqSmtnVmVJSjdHSmpzaV9TVnJzd1JVRGxPQU1kNDZpQVZrX2l3X0t3MmVRbGtSMWZjVUY5Vi1iRlpRUzB6Z0VoWGVzM1hwU0tHamFVaw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FBeLegenDaryLD&v=n1XHTUEnWpc) LISTEN OR WATCH ON YOUR FAVORITE PLATFORM ▶️ YouTube:    / @outoflinepod   (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1lhtBKkbdfAC0tSMgWoPiw) 🎙️ Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbXVvRVcyWDd6V2RSTmQzN3pydnpzQ2U4Y1N2Z3xBQ3Jtc0trSnlzd1RpSGhucVV5TmdaV1JEVDZiN2s2ejNTdEFiOGxsblRmQ1QzZUZBZ2U3X3pIaUhQYU94Y241dDBuOTA0WDQ0V2p6YkRtZmNTWHl5bjZNZXRNRERhS2VKa1FrUTE1c09CbmluSGVBcGdsb3BtTQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fus%2Fpodcast%2Fout-of-line-with-tiffany-scott%2Fid1882144516&v=n1XHTUEnWpc) 💚 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2Lnrene... (https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbUhvenNVNGJWVWJERkR3U0lBR1diZElGNjkzUXxBQ3Jtc0tuQmg0U3hMZHZwUDNOYVI2bXRqN2RuNHZ6cmwxUHBtTzRRTG9QVmZPYlVnNTVaSjRVeFB6MldKT1QtQzJ6TVQ5S3NVbnZfVFVYNFR4RkRpYVdlaHBpTmlaMXNWdzJqSEM5TnhEZER0bEVtSUhNczVSQQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fopen.spotify.com%2Fshow%2F2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N%3Fsi%3Dacefbc2b500a4fac&v=n1XHTUEnWpc)

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    17 Mar 2026

    Out of Line Ep. 2 | The Unfiltered Serial Entrepreneur: Thomas Sephakis

    Tiffany Scott sits down with serial entrepreneur, author, and multi-industry leader Thomas Sephakis. Moving past the standard corporate narrative, Tom brings a refreshing, unfiltered perspective on what it truly takes to pursue what you want, build businesses from the ground up, and navigate the complexities of a career that refuses to fit into a single box. Throughout the conversation, Tom dives into his multifaceted journey - from his deep-rooted passion for the staffing industry to his creative pursuits as an actor and screenwriter. He pulls back the curtain on the grit required to pivot between industries, the reality of being a perpetual builder in a volatile market, and why maintaining authenticity is the most powerful tool in any leader’s arsenal. Whether he is discussing the nuances of business ownership or the lessons learned from his diverse professional experiences, Thomas offers actionable insights for anyone ready to challenge the status quo. Join us for a raw, honest look at the unconventional path to success and the drive required to stay in the game, no matter the industry.

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    3 Mar 2026

    Out of Line Ep. 1 | The Executive Blueprint: Gene Rice

    In this episode of Out of Line, Tiffany Scott sits down with Gene Rice, Co Founder and Chairman of Rice Cohen International, one of North America’s most respected executive search firms. With more than 1,000 retained searches and over 200 C suite placements throughout his career, Gene has played a major role in shaping the executive recruiting industry. During the conversation, Gene shares insights from decades in executive search, leadership, and entrepreneurship. He also opens up about parts of his personal journey, the lessons he learned building a successful recruiting firm, and what it really takes to develop long term success in the search industry. Beyond his professional accomplishments, Gene is also the Co Founder of the Plant a Seed Foundation, a nonprofit dedicated to helping children from underserved communities pursue their dreams through scholarships, mentorship, and support programs. Gene is also the co author of Grad to Grown, a book he wrote with his daughter Courtney Bejgrowicz that helps young professionals transition from college into the real world with practical guidance on career growth, mindset, and professional development. To Learn More or to Donate to Plant a Seed foundation: https://plantaseedfoundation.org/ (https://plantaseedfoundation.org/) Grab a copy of Grad to Grown on Amazon! https://amzn.to/3P0OnuR (https://amzn.to/3P0OnuR)

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