Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary

About Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary

Matthew Zachary is the healthcare policy love child of Jon Stewart, Howard Stern, Thomas Paine, Ralph Nader, and Jerry Seinfeld. He has 19 years of receipts to prove it. Editorially independent. Answerable to no one. What started as The Stupid Cancer Show in 2007 became Out of Patients. The first online health podcast in America, predating the medium itself. Zachary survived brain cancer at 21, built the young adult cancer movement from scratch, and spent two decades channeling patient rage into something the system never saw coming. Now he is marching into Washington. Out of Patients goes where the comfortable shows will not. Politics. Healthcare policy. Economics. Institutional accountability. Consumer protection. The forces shaping what 330 million Americans can access, afford, and survive. Battle-scarred patients. Exhausted caregivers. Rare insiders brave enough to name what is killing us. And the occasional elected official about to find out what an organized patient constituency actually looks like. This is the show that started the conversation America is still not ready to finish.

Publisher

Matthew Zachary Worldwide

Category

health & fitness · news · society & culture

Language

en

Explicit

Yes

First episode

5 Feb 2020

Latest episode

27 Oct 2026

Latest episodes

161 of 541 episodes have a transcript.

1. 

   27 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT

   [BEST OF OOP] Katy Talento

   Host Matthew Zachary interviews health policy expert Katy Talento about disrupting employer health plans and navigating healthcare system complexities.

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   20 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT

   [BEST OF OOP] Ben Unger

   Host Matthew Zachary interviews Ben Unger about his journey escaping conversion therapy and his fight for LGBTQ+ rights, offering insights into resilience and self-acceptance.

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   13 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT

   [BEST OF OOP] Jessica J. Federer

   Matthew Zachary interviews Jessica J. Federer, exploring how historical exclusion of women in clinical trials impacts drug development and women's health outcomes.

Inside a recent episode

[BEST OF OOP] Katy Talento

Published 27 Oct 2026 · Transcript excerpt

[…] And, you know, it really does. And because we have an independent plan administrator paying the claims instead of like Blue Cross, and we have an independent PBM instead of freaking CVS Caremark or Optum or whatever. All those misaligned incentives in those giant corporate Borgs that are eating our economy and stealing the American dream from the middle class, those misaligned incentives get realigned. Because what are the priorities of you and your employer? They're the same. You want to be healthy? They want you to be healthy. You want to pay less? They want to pay less. Your incentives are aligned. […]

Who has been a guest on Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary

Names identified in recent episode analyses. Showing up to five guests.

• Katy Talento
• Ben Unger
• Jessica J Federer
• Eugene Manley Jr
• Jenny Opalinski

Reach and audience

Public platform figures. Ratings count people who left a rating, not total listeners.

YouTube views

8,381

Score snapshot 15 Sept 2025

Apple Podcasts (US)

4.9 / 5

160 ratings

Spotify

5.0 / 5

23 ratings

Podcast Authority Score: 92 / 100

A composite of feed quality, social presence, YouTube performance and engagement. Read the methodology.

Quality

94

Social presence

94

YouTube

82

Engagement

98

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