#79 - Summary of the Sub-Type - Caleb Keller and (MORE about) the Enneagram
What kind of person are you, and what do you need to grow? How do you find safety, security, and purpose, and what does this say about your core motivations and fears?
There's a tool to guide you through these answers called The Enneagram! It's one of our favorite things to discuss.
The Enneagram is a 9-point personality measure with origins in ancient eastern philosophical traditions, and which has been rediscovered in our times as one of the most robust and detailed methods of understanding the human personality. Drawing on classical archetypes, mindfulness traditions, and paying close attention to both the blind spots and strengths of each Type, the Enneagram offers valuable language to the individual wanting to understand why they do what they do, how to do differently, and how to “come awake” to their true and thriving selves.
Each of the 9 types breaks down further into 3 Subtypes, based on how you respond to distress. Do you seek refuge and resource within yourself? Within a specific other person? Or Within a group? With these factors to consider, now we have twenty-seven personality types to explore!
Rhys is joined by good friend and colleague Caleb Keller to unpack the Sub-Types and explore what this means for how we live and how we grow.
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Caleb can be found at his practice at https://www.calebkellercounselingpllc.net/ and through his most excellent podcast, Influ-Men-Sirs.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/influ-men-sirs/id1873076116
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8 Oct 2026
The 12 Steps: Faith in Action, with Elizabeth Pasimio
How does one DO recovery?
Today on Outer Circle Inner Stillness, Rhys welcomes back Elizabeth Pasimio, an acupuncturist and Eastern medicine practitioner based in San Diego County. They discuss their shared experiences in learning to practice recovery and Christianity in real time in their daily lives, while also practicing their respective helping professions.
This episode centers on the Twelve Steps while looking at recovery more broadly. Why would someone choose a faith-based approach? What is the relationship between recovery and spirituality? Why do we need community? Rhys and Elizabeth compare faith-centered and non-faith-centered paths to recovery, and they explore what difference a higher power makes and what that means for the recovery process.
Along the way, they share stories from their own spiritual journeys, reflect on parts of their shared family history, and offer insights from their respective practices. It’s a grounded, practical conversation, and we hope you find it helpful.
In this episode:
The Twelve Steps and recovery in general
The relationship between recovery and spirituality
Faith-centered and non-faith-centered approaches to recovery
How having (or not having) a higher power shapes the recovery process
Personal stories of spiritual growth and family history
Perspectives from counseling and Eastern medicine
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Moses-Rhys Pasimio can be reached at rhys@newpatterncounseling.com (mailto:rhys@newpatterncounseling.com) or through www.newpatterncounseling.com (http://www.newpatterncounseling.com).
Elizabeth Pasimio can be reached at https://southbayfamilyacupuncture.com/ (https://southbayfamilyacupuncture.com/)
2 Oct 2025
Parents, God, Recovery, and Viktor Frankl - with Ken Ovitz
What is recovery all about?
What is the role of spirituality in recovery, and what is the role of our childhood experiences of our parents in our spirituality?
In today’s episode, I interview Ken Ovitz, fellow counselor and spiritual pilgrim, about recovery, spirituality, how our parents shape our understanding of God, and how we need each other to really thrive. We talk about how recovery is about creating a sacred space that cultivates intimacy and vulnerability and enough authenticity to allow people to be themselves and come together. Along the way, we make references to Christianity, Judaism, and Viktor Frankl. In the end, we linger on the impact of family patterns, how to overcome shame, and how to incorporate spiritual disciplines, from different traditions.
The Outer Circle Inner Stillness is made possible by support from listeners, patrons, likes, and shares. For early access to content, and to learn more about how to support the podcast, visit www.patreon.com/outercircle. (https://www.patreon.com/outercircle.)
Rhys Pasimio can be found through (http://www.newpatterncounseling.com/)www.patreon.com/outercircle (https://www.patreon.com/outercircle) and on instagram at @newpattrencounseling and through New Pattern Counseling at www.newpatterncounseling.com (http://www.newpatterncounseling.com/), and is always happy to dialogue with listeners bringing honest questions!
Ken Ovitz can be found kennethovitzlcsw@gmail.com (mailto:kennethovitzlcsw@gmail.com) and at his profile on Psychology Today - https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/ken-ovitz-cherry-hill-nj/808681 (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/ken-ovitz-cherry-hill-nj/808681)
Thanks for listening!
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