Exceptional discussions for those of us on the outside. Join hosts Ray Curenton and Tim Dillinger for uncensored, unfiltered, and unraveled conversations that weave together history, faith, arts, and social politics into the fabric of our greater cultural narrative. There's always an exception to the rule.

Outlaw's Evidence of the Unseen
Claim This Podcastby Ray Curenton & Tim Dillinger
Podcast Overview
Exceptional discussions for those of us on the outside. Join hosts Ray Curenton and Tim Dillinger for uncensored, unfiltered, and unraveled conversations that weave together history, faith, arts, and social politics into the fabric of our greater cultural narrative. There's always an exception to the rule.
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June 13, 2025
SPECIAL — God's Not Dead: Unpacking the Michael Tait Allegations
<p>Who said a finale had to be final? In this very special episode, Tim and Ray dust off the mics to delve into the recent sexual assault allegations against Michael Tait, a prominent figure in Christian music, including his time with DC Talk and the Newsboys. The conversation highlights the broader issues of sexual misconduct, substance abuse, and the hypocrisy within the Christian music industry. The hosts critique the industry's inconsistent handling of scandals, particularly the forgiveness of men over women. They also reflect on the lack of affirming voices for LGBTQ+ individuals in Christian music. The episode concludes with updates on the hosts' personal projects, including new music releases and ongoing work. </p><p><br></p><p>Content warning: sexual assault, substance abuse, spiritual harm.</p><p><br></p><p>Resources/References:</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://julieroys.com/former-newsboys-frontman-michael-tait-accused-sexual-assault-grooming-substance-abuse-dating-back-to-2004/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">“EXCLUSIVE: Former Newsboys Frontman Michael Tait Accused of Sexual Assault, Grooming, and Substance Abuse, Dating Back to 2004”</a> by Jessica Morris | The Roys Report</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.celestefinally.com/p/julie-roys-and-lgbtq-people" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">“Julie Roys and LGBTQ+ People”</a> by Celeste Irwin | Celestial Navigation</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.ccmmagazine.com/news/michael-tait-breaks-silence-my-confession/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">“Michael Tait Breaks Silence”</a> by CCM Magazine</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Tim Dillinger at God’s Music Is My Life: <a href="https://godsmusicismylife.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://godsmusicismylife.substack.com/</a></p><p>Milik Kashad TV: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/@MilikKashadTV" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">http://www.youtube.com/@MilikKashadTV</a></p><p><br></p><p>Follow Ray Curenton: <a href="https://raycurenton.com/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://raycurenton.com/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Imagination Fury Arts: https://imaginationfuryarts.com/</p>

March 18, 2024
Honk for Jesus (with Juba Kalamka)
<p>In the series finale of Outlaw's Evidence of the Unseen, hosts Ray Curenton and Tim Dillinger are joined by artist/activist Juba Kalamka, author of Son of Byford (published by Black Lawrence Press), to discuss Adamma Ebo's mockumentary Honk for Jesus. Save Your Soul., a film that examines the construct of the megachurch and how it intertwines with capitalism, homophobia, and sexism to create a machine through which greed, shame, and power coalesce. </p> <p>Follow Juba Kalamka: @jubakalamka </p> <p>Get Juba’s book, Son of Byford at <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/son-of-byford-juba-kalamka/18559472?ean=9781955239318" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://bookshop.org/p/books/son-of-byford-juba-kalamka/18559472?ean=9781955239318</a> </p> <p>Follow Juba’s band, Commando: @commandosucks </p> <p>Support Juba's music on Bandcamp: <a href="https://commandothebando.bandcamp.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://commandothebando.bandcamp.com/</a> </p> <p>Follow Tim: @timdillinger </p> <p>Follow Ray: @raycurenton </p> <p>Subscribe to Tim's newsletter at <a href="https://godsmusicismylife.substack.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://godsmusicismylife.substack.com/</a> and listen to his new podcast God’s Music Is My Life at <a href="https://tr.ee/UE8VxIegZk" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://tr.ee/UE8VxIegZk</a> </p> <p>Support Ray’s music on Bandcamp <a href="https://raycurenton.bandcamp.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://raycurenton.bandcamp.com/</a> </p>

July 7, 2022
I’m a God Warrior!
<p>The FOX network once called her frenzy “the most compelling footage ever caught on tape.” We’re talking, of course, about Marguerite Perrin, most commonly known as “The God Warrior.” Tim and Ray revisit both of her classic appearances on the reality show Trading Spouses: Meet Your New Mommy, including her infamous “mother of all meltdowns” that has inspired memes and parodies ever since it first aired in 2005. The hosts discuss how Southern Christian paranoia and fear of the “dork-sided” got its first major mainstream showcase in possibly the most epic moment of reality television ever.</p> <p>Follow us:</p> <p>Tim: <a href="https://twitter.com/timdillinger">@timdillinger</a></p> <p>Ray: <a href="https://twitter.com/raycurenton">@raycurenton</a></p> <p>Subscribe to Tim's newsletter at <a href="https://godsmusicismylife.substack.com/">https://godsmusicismylife.substack.com/</a></p> <p>Support Ray’s music on Bandcamp <a href="https://raycurenton.bandcamp.com/">https://raycurenton.bandcamp.com/</a></p>
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