Outside the Bell Curve

About Outside the Bell Curve

For the forever curious and the ones chasing wild ideas. Outside the Bell Curve is a podcast for those who just can’t seem to color inside the lines. I’m Heather, and each week I chat with friends, creatives, and fascinating humans I meet on the road — folks with cool jobs, wild stories, and a habit of choosing the unexpected. From bold pivots to one-way tickets, from a small town in Texas to a residency at the Kennedy Center, or a drive from the UK to Mongolia, I’m full of questions for the people who’ve lived it. Let’s explore what it looks like to live outside the bell curve. https://www.instagram.com/outsidethebellcurvepod/ (https://www.instagram.com/outsidethebellcurvepod/)

Publisher

Heather Hiccups

Category

society & culture

Language

en

Explicit

Yes

First episode

7 Aug 2025

Latest episode

14 Oct 2026

Latest episodes

19 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   14 Oct 2026

   🎃 Halloween Throwback: Ghost Hunting 101 with Spirit Chasers UK (Apparitions, EMF & Evidence)

   👻 FROM THE VAULT: Spooky season is here, so we’re bringing back one of my favourite conversations ever. If you missed it the first time, grab a blanket and maybe leave a light on. A brand-new episode drops Oct 21. In the meantime, the spirits would like a word. Sometimes ghosts just need a moment to warm up to you... Ghost hunting that’s real, respectful, and for a good cause. For our Halloween special, I speak with David Laird and Marie of Spirit Chasers UK, a non-profit team running accessible, affordable paranormal investigations across the UK—supporting historic venues and charities along the way. We dig into: how evidence strengthens as spirits learn to trust you, why TV gets ghost hunting wrong, what tools (EMF/REM-Pods/EVP) actually help, and the wildest nights—from Wymering Manor to the Tangmere Military Aviation Museum, the Hovercraft Museum, and an unforgettable castle cottage that sent them packing. Plus: how they keep first-timers calm, deal with skeptics, and why the best energy is laughter and joy. Listen if you’re curious, cautious, or already obsessed. Spirits aren’t just for Halloween—they’re year-round. Highlights: ➤Building trust with locations (singing child, table drags) ➤Methods that work vs. false positives ➤Ethics, safety, and respecting history ➤Non-profit approach & keeping hunts affordable Questions to think about: ➤ Are ghost hunts real or staged? ➤ What tools do ghost hunters use (EMF meters, REM Pods, EVP recorders)? ➤ How do spirits build trust with investigators? ➤ What happens during a paranormal investigation? ➤ What is it like to experience a full-body apparition? ➤ What’s the difference between ghost hunting on TV and in real life? ➤ Can laughter and positive energy attract spirits? ➤ How do Spirit Chasers UK make ghost hunting affordable for everyone? ➤ How can you join a real paranormal investigation in the UK? 🎧 Spirit Chasers UK: spiritchasersparanormal.uk (http://spiritchasersparanormal.uk) Follow the Show: ⁠Outside the Bell Curve on Substack⁠ (https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/s/podcast) Follow Heather: ⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/)https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/⁠) Chapters 0:00 - Intro 2:15 - David's Journey into Paranormal Investigation 10:30 - Memorable Paranormal Experiences 18:45 - Running a Non-Profit Paranormal Group 25:00 - Advice for Aspiring Paranormal Investigators 32:10 - The Impact of Media on Paranormal Interest 40:00 - Closing Thoughts and Future Plans

2. 

   7 Oct 2026

   From Wall Street to Every Country on Earth: Why Travel Advisors Are Booming | Jacey Jones

   From the vault: one of my favorite conversations ever, dusted off and too good not to share again. Jacey Jones was picking stocks at Goldman Sachs when she noticed computers were getting better at her job than people. She left. After working at a tech startup, she's now the co-founder and CEO of TripSuite, software that helps travel advisors run their businesses. She also runs Kamira Travel, a luxury adventure agency that sends people to places most of us have never heard of. She's on a mission to visit every country in the world. Let's get into why travel advisors are more in demand than ever (yes, even with TikTok and Pinterest). Why working in travel means you never take a "real" vacation again, what it's like to run two companies side by side, and how Jacey's parents check she's alive by looking at her bank account. Plus Malta, Tunisia, Patagonia, São Tomé, and the mantra that keeps her going: you are what you are becoming. For the forever curious and the ones chasing wild ideas. Do the scary thing. Check our Kamira Travel: https://www.kamiratravel.com/ (https://www.kamiratravel.com/) Follow Kamira Travel on TikTok for inspiration: https://www.tiktok.com/@kamiratravel (https://www.tiktok.com/@kamiratravel) Follow the Show: ⁠Outside the Bell Curve on Substack⁠ (https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/s/podcast) Follow Heather: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/)

3. 

   30 Sept 2026

   Not Cute to Panic: The Whimsical Art of Going Full-Time Comedian | Zubi Ahmed

   Zubi Ahmed was told by her teachers not to bother with a creative career because "nobody's gonna watch you." Now she's performing stand-up for hundreds of people in New York City, and she recently turned the loss of her day job into an opportunity to go all in on comedy. Queen Zubi (I'm dubbing her this now) is a Queens-born comedian, filmmaker and producer who co-hosts the NYC comedy shows Kutti Gang and House Party. We talk about growing up Bengali in Ozone Park, learning comedy from sitcoms with her immigrant parents, falling into stand-up by accident, and why she refuses to panic, even about an "iffy" bank account. Long story short...book the room first, then figure out the rest. For the forever curious and the ones chasing wild ideas. Do the scary thing. Chapters 0:00 Intro 1:06 Meet Zubi Ahmed 2:22 Digital Nomads, Travel Guilt & Loud Americans 8:13 Which New York Accent Does It for You? 11:04 Sitcoms, Immigrant Parents & Wanting to Write 14:30 The Teachers Who Said "Don't" 17:07 Falling Into Stand-Up by Accident 22:07 Representation Doesn't Have to Look Like You 26:02 Lost the Job, Found the Sleep 37:16 Zubi's Advice: Book the Room First YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast (https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast) IG - https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast (https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast) Follow Zubi - https://www.instagram.com/chopzubicomedy/ (https://www.instagram.com/chopzubicomedy/) Follow the host - https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/) https://buymeacoffee.com/heatherhiccups (https://buymeacoffee.com/heatherhiccups)

4. 

   23 Sept 2026

   Melbourne to Morocco to Andorra: Travel Guiding and Cloud Watching with My Cool Aussie Pal, Patrick Davis

   One of our favorites from the archive, back in the feed for anyone who missed it the first time. ~Sometimes you're on a hike in Andorra and just wanna plop down to ask your new friend some questions, so let me introduce you to this mountain valley chat~ What happens when you swap an office job for 70 days on a bus across Europe? Patrick Davis did just that — and fifteen years later, he’s still guiding travelers through Spain, Portugal, and Morocco, with a side of skydiving, sailing, and a sleuth of other random licenses. We talk about the intensity of Contiki’s infamous training, why being out of your depth can be a gift, the art (and chaos) of guiding, and what a life of constant movement really teaches you. Also: cloud spotting, wild horses, and why you should probably just book the trip. YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast (https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast) IG - https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast (https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast) Follow the host - https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/) https://buymeacoffee.com/heatherhiccups (https://buymeacoffee.com/heatherhiccups) Follow Patrick’s travels here: Patrick Davis Adventure on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@patrickdavisadventure) - https://www.youtube.com/@patrickdavisadventure (https://www.youtube.com/@patrickdavisadventure)

5. 

   16 Sept 2026

   Do The Scary Thing: A Pro Soccer Player's Road from US to Valencia & Puerto Rico | Danielle Marcano

   Danielle Marcano didn't just chase a childhood dream, she stepped away from it for two years, went back to school for a master's in sports psychology, and then rebuilt herself into a professional soccer player good enough to sign in one of the best leagues in the world. Pro La Liga and Puerto Rican National TeamSoccer player, Danielle, takes us through her path from Iceland, Turkey, and France before landing in Valencia, Spain — all while suiting up for Puerto Rico's national team in World Cup qualifiers. What's it feel like to move abroad alone? The culture shock of small talk (or the lack of it), learning a new language on the fly, and the mental rebuild it took to trust herself again after time away from the game. She also opens up about the women who inspire her, how much women's sports have grown since she turned pro, and why she believes doing the things that scare you is the only way to actually find out who you are. This is a conversation about identity beyond your job title, redefining what "success" even means, and having the guts to bet on yourself in a country where you don't speak the language yet. YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast (https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast) IG - https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast (https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast) Follow the host - https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/) https://buymeacoffee.com/heatherhiccups (https://buymeacoffee.com/heatherhiccups)

6. 

   9 Sept 2026

   Quit His Job & Created His Own Opportunities: Your Sign If You Wanna Reinvent Yourself | Lamar Dawson

   Lamar Dawson — aka the Dirty King of Pop — has built a career out of reinventing himself more than once. He started with a master's in higher education, a job at Georgetown, and a dream of working in student affairs. He hit refresh, moved into PR, and eventually quit that stable job (giving back his signing bonus in the process) to chase entertainment full time. Today he's a SiriusXM & TikTok radio host, a L'Oréal Vice President, and a content creator who built his whole platform without chasing virality — SiriusXM discovered him with only 20,000 followers and hired him without an interview. In this episode, we get into: Why he thinks of career reinvention like a slingshot, the pullback is what makes the launch go further Growing up Black in predominantly white military towns, and how that's given him a unique perspective on pop culture His lifelong Christina Aguilera obsession Why he believes nobody's truly original — "we're all just sampling from each other" The mindset shift from posting for virality to posting for opportunity His dream interview ... is it Christina, is it Beyoncé? Follow Lamar: https://www.instagram.com/dirrtykingofpop/ (https://www.instagram.com/dirrtykingofpop/) YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast (https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast) IG - https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast (https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast) Follow the host - https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/) https://buymeacoffee.com/heatherhiccups (https://buymeacoffee.com/heatherhiccups) Chapters: 00:00 - Hi 03:01 – Meet Lamar Dawson 03:59 – His Secret First Career 07:17 – Finding His Voice on TikTok 09:25 – Vulnerability vs. Working Corporate 11:39 – Growing Up Black & the Christina Aguilera Origin Story 22:38 – Blogging His Way In & Quitting His Job 26:53 – Dream Interviews & Pop Culture Nostalgia 38:04 – Sampling From Each Other 46:04 – Balancing It All 56:27 – Post for Opportunities & The Slingshot Theory

7. 

   7 Sept 2026

   Outside the Bell Curve is back! Season 2 Trailer

   This year was filled with countless times meeting incredible people who amazed me at every turn. Professional soccer/futbol player? Got that. Headlining comedian? Check. TikTok star by morning and VP at a major company by day? Yes and Yes. Get ready to feel inspired, ready to say "ef the timeline" and eager to pursue your passions. This year we're really going for it (note to self) so hop in, cuz we're jumping unapologetically Outside the Bell Curve! YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast (https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast) IG - https://www.youtube.com/@OutsideTheBellCurvePodcast (https://www.instagram.com/outsidethebellcurvepod/) Follow the host - https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/) https://buymeacoffee.com/heatherhiccups (https://buymeacoffee.com/heatherhiccups)

8. 

   26 Nov 2025

   God, Sex & Rich People… Purity Ring to NYC with Mattie Jo

   We’ve all been there, trying to outgrow the version of ourselves we were raised to be. The “good girl,” the rule follower, the one who doesn’t question anything… until suddenly you do. Mattie Jo Cowsert is a pastor’s kid turned shameless oversharer, actor, author of God, Sex & Rich People, and truly the definition of “I’ll do as I please.” From rebuilding her entire identity, to choosing a life that feels good, and staying out of situations that shrink you. We get into: • How the queer community and the diversity of New York City cracked open everything she believed about “purity culture” • Why “Fuckboy Monsters” was not only a chapter in her book, but a full era • What it really feels like to rebuild your identity in your 20s (and 30s) • Writing God, Sex & Rich People (https://www.mattiejocowsert.com/book?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMjU2MjgxMDQwNTU4AAGn546OlXGMTE2zCRxuhNDj2UM5XEqi3HEgBjPHVuIlmJZhxUzEj5uussmDGow_aem_Mf6r9j_cmus9u_LTjBJVcA) and developing her viral pilot (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYr3n-tZgK8) • Why she refuses a safe 9–5 in favor of alignment,  joy, and simply believing in herself. Get ready to rethink the “rules” you grew up with, laugh at her overshares, and maybe feel a little braver about pursuing your passion projects. ⁠⁠Follow Mattie Jo - (https://www.instagram.com/mattiejocowsert/⁠) https://www.instagram.com/mattiejocowsert/ (https://www.instagram.com/mattiejocowsert/⁠) ⁠⁠Follow Heather- ⁠⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/⁠ )⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/⁠⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/) ⁠⁠ (https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/⁠ )

9. 

   12 Nov 2025

   Delusional Positivity, Ridiculous Job Apps & the Art of Just Starting — with Vandie

   Vandie is bold and not to mention, savvy. She went from tech to essentially the “fun-planer” at a dream company, has lived in 26 cities, co-founded a space for connection after college, and chose to be child-free in a very permanent way. We talk about “delusional positivity,” radical self-trust, quitting the checklist life, and showing up authentically (even when you’re still figuring it out). This Dutch Bros’ “donut girl” redefines what “having it all” actually means. 🎙 Topics: The audacity of starting before you’re ready Building inclusive community spaces Life after being laid off Choosing the child-free life Authenticity > perfection ⁠Follow Vandie (https://www.instagram.com/vandieboo/) - https://www.instagram.com/vandieboo/ (https://www.instagram.com/vandieboo/) ⁠Follow Heather- ⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/⁠ )⁠https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/) ⁠Follow the show on Substack- ⁠ (https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/⁠ )⁠https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/⁠ (https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/)

10. 

    29 Oct 2025

    Ghost Hunting 101 with Spirit Chasers: Apparitions, EMF & Evidence. A Halloween Special

    What happens when the ghosts get to know you? This Halloween, we’re with Spirit Chasers UK (https://www.spiritchasersparanormal.uk/), the nonprofit ghost-hunting team making the paranormal accessible, affordable, and full of heart. David and Marie share their wildest encounters: a singing child, flying tables, a haunted cottage that sent them running, and explain why laughter might be the strongest tool in any investigation. A story about trust, energy, and finding community in the unknown. Learn about Spirit Chasers - https://www.spiritchasersparanormal.uk/ (https://www.spiritchasersparanormal.uk/) ⁠⁠Follow Heather- ⁠⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/⁠ )⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/⁠⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/) ⁠⁠Follow the show on Substack- ⁠⁠ (https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/⁠ )⁠⁠https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/⁠⁠ (https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/)

11. 

    22 Oct 2025

    No Plan B: Eric Jackson on Breaking Into Sports Journalism and the Business of Sports

    Eric Jackson knows the game on and off the field. He’s an award-winning journalist and sports communications strategist, ate a hundred “no’s,” and still landed on his feet covering athletes from the NFL to the Olympics and artists from Ice Cube to Darius Rucker. He highlights the business of sports, showing the intersection where athletics, money, and culture collide. We talk resilience without a Plan B, student journalism that matters, athletes as entrepreneurs (yes, Ice Cube’s Big3 and Macklemore’s golf era), and why the scoreboard is only part of the story. Eric opens up about the journey to get here, giving back by teaching at Long Island University, dreaming about LA28, and designing a life that doesn’t look like anyone else’s. ⁠Follow Eric - https://www.instagram.com/epjackson/ (https://www.instagram.com/epjackson/) ⁠Follow Heather- ⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/⁠ )⁠https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/) ⁠Follow the show on Substack- ⁠ (https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/⁠ )⁠https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/⁠ (https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/)

12. 

    7 Oct 2025

    Cliff Jumps, Ownership & One-Way Tickets: Santiago’s Leap to Mallorca, Spain

    “We came to this world to live.” Meet Santiago Iglesias — an Argentine entrepreneur turned Mallorca adventure guide who left a 10-year accounting career to build a life of business ownership, cliff jumps, solar travel and navigating visas. He opened a hostel in Mar del Plata, Argentina, took the journey to Italian citizenship, and upped and moved across the world; learning patience, what happens when you slow down, what happens when you meet new people from different cultures, and all of the lovely bits in between. We touch on his favorite places from Uluwatu, to Australia, to where he now calls home. If you’ve ever craved a nudge to choose the unexpected—this is it. So, as always, this is your fun reminder to (maybe) ‘do the scary thing’ you never know what could happen. Follow Santiago (ttps://www.instagram.com/san_iglesiass/) here to hear about his adventures, hostel, and bar back in Argentina- https://www.instagram.com/san_iglesiass/ (https://www.instagram.com/san_iglesiass/) Follow Heather- (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/⁠ )https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/) Follow the show on Substack- (https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/⁠ )https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/ (https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/)

13. 

    24 Sept 2025

    Adventure Travel, Tech Startups & Every Country in the World — with Jacey Jones

    Jacey Jones didn’t plan on becoming a founder — but today she runs two companies in the travel space: TripSuite, a tech startup streamlining the travel advisor industry, and Kamira Travel, a boutique agency specializing in luxury adventure. Jacey shares how she pivoted from Wall Street and Silicon Valley into travel entrepreneurship, why advisors are more in demand than ever, and what it’s like to juggle two companies while chasing her goal of visiting every country in the world. Check our Kamira Travel: https://www.kamiratravel.com/ (https://www.kamiratravel.com/) Follow Kamira Travel on TikTok for inspiration: https://www.tiktok.com/@kamiratravel (https://www.tiktok.com/@kamiratravel) Follow the Show: ⁠Outside the Bell Curve on Substack⁠ (https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/s/podcast) Follow Heather: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/⁠ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/)

14. 

    10 Sept 2025

    From Football Fields to Film Sets: Marcus Lorenzo Brandon on Chasing the Feeling

    Marcus Lorenzo Brandon has worn a lot of hats — college football player, cybersecurity entrepreneur, actor on Mayor of Kingstown — but through it all, the art has always come first. Marcus shares what it’s really like to chase acting while balancing a full-time career, why theater still has his heart, and why directing is calling his name. We talk football, philanthropy, and what it means to follow the feeling of your craft. Follow Marcus: https://www.instagram.com/marcuslorenzobrandon/ (https://www.instagram.com/marcuslorenzobrandon/) Follow the Show: Outside the Bell Curve on Substack (https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/s/podcast) Follow Heather: https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/ (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/) Volunteer in NYC: New York Cares ( https://www.newyorkcares.org/home?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=8490001177&gbraid=0AAAAAD_Pn53pklFemrZUOyTPokObHTFBO)

15. 

    3 Sept 2025

    The Upside of Redundancy: Akhil Takes on Mongol Rally 2025

    Redundancy → reinvention → 10,000 miles on the road. I bumped into a friend from Australia in Andorra of all places; as I’ve said before, that place is magic. Akhil is gearing up for the Mongol Rally 2025—~10,000 miles (≈16,000 km) of solo driving from Europe toward the far east of Kazakhstan, through deserts, mountains, and a whole lot of “not-a-road.” His journey is filled with up and down career pivots, from venture capital, to full-time adventure and the moments in between. So let’s get into about choosing the hard thing, solo travel, visas, camping fails, and why “regret minimization” might be the only decision framework you need. Follow Akhil's travels here- T0astface (https://www.instagram.com/t0astface/⁠) Follow Outside the Bell Curve on Substack- https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/s/podcast (https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/s/podcast) Follow Heather here- Heather_Hiccups (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/) More travel insights here- TravelingHiccups (https://www.instagram.com/travelinghiccups/) (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/) (https://www.instagram.com/travelinghiccups/)

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    27 Aug 2025

    Feminism, TikTok, Tradwives & Cultural Influences: CC Binx on Building Up the Matriarchy

    TikTok political commentator, and host of The Stay at Home Feminist, CC Binx grew up everywhere from Africa to the Caribbean to the Middle East, and that global lens shaped how she sees society — as a set of constructs meant to be challenged. From her early career in nonprofits to TikTok to her current platform as host of The Stay at Home Feminist podcast host, CC has unapologetic hot takes on what happens when hustle culture makes you sick, why Gen Z may never buy into the 9–5 dream, and how to embrace failure as part of the plot. For more show updates: ⁠Outside the Bell Curve⁠ on Substack (https://travelinghiccups.substack.com/s/podcast) Follow CC here: ⁠CC Binx⁠  (https://www.tiktok.com/@ccbinx?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc) Listen to The Stay at Home Feminist (https://open.spotify.com/show/4ll5lg6SUhDq5glu0Ah9bf?si=ad64f970ba1349fd)

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    20 Aug 2025

    Melbourne to Morocco to Andorra — Patrick Davis on Guiding, Curiosity, and Cloud Watching

    ~Sometimes you're on a hike in Andorra and just wanna plop down to ask your new friend some questions, so let me introduce you to this small mountain valley chat~ What happens when you swap an office job for 70 days on a bus across Europe? Patrick Davis did just that — and fifteen years later, he’s still guiding travelers through Spain, Portugal, and Morocco, with a side of skydiving, sailing, and a sleuth of other random licenses. We talk about the intensity of Contiki’s infamous training, why being out of your depth can be a gift, the art (and chaos) of guiding, and what a life of constant movement really teaches you. Also: cloud spotting, wild horses, and why you should probably just book the trip. For more show updates: Outside the Bell Curve (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/) Follow Patrick’s travels here: Patrick Davis Adventure on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@patrickdavisadventure) - https://www.youtube.com/@patrickdavisadventure (https://www.youtube.com/@patrickdavisadventure)

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    20 Aug 2025

    Dancing Across the World, Casting in NYC — Emily Paige’s Plot Twist

    From a football coach’s daughter in Texas to a professional dancer in New York, Emily Paige has never exactly followed the script. From her years performing around the world, the pivot to casting and creative direction, and why asking for what you want is the real career hack, Emily is continuing her advocacy for artists. For more show updates: Outside the Bell Curve (https://www.instagram.com/heather_hiccups/) Follow Emily here: https://www.instagram.com/empaigeanderson/ (https://www.instagram.com/empaigeanderson/)

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    7 Aug 2025

    Outside the Bell Curve Trailer

    For the forever curious, and the ones chasing wild ideas. Welcome to Outside the Bell Curve, a show for people who just can’t seem to color inside the lines. I’m Heather, and each week I chat with friends, creatives, and fascinating humans I meet on the road — folks with cool jobs, wild stories, and a habit of choosing the unexpected. We talk about the shaky moments, bold pivots, questionable career moves, one-way tickets, and all the peaks and valleys in between. Because really — does anyone know what they’re doing? From a small town in Texas to a residency at the Kennedy Center, or a drive from the UK to Mongolia, I’m full of questions for the people who’ve lived it. If you’ve ever felt boxed in or thought about switching things up, you’re in good company. Let’s explore what it means to live outside the bell curve.

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