Paid 2 Draw is a new podcast about the business side of illustration hosted by Viktoria Cichoń and David Leutert—two freelance illustrators based in and around Berlin. They interview inspiring creatives about how they make a living doing what they love.
Paid 2 Draw
Claim This Podcastby David Leutert and Viktoria Cichoń
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35 episodes
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Paid 2 Draw is a new podcast about the business side of illustration hosted by Viktoria Cichoń and David Leutert—two freelance illustrators based in and around Berlin. They interview inspiring creatives about how they make a living doing what they love.
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Recent Episodes
September 22, 2025
34. Studio MUTI and the Power of Versatility
<p>This week we talk to two of the three founders of <strong>Studio MUTI</strong>, a Cape Town-based creative studio. Miné Day and Brad Hodgskiss share their journey from starting a small illustration studio in 2011 to now managing a vibrant team of 18 creatives with a diverse range of styles and skills — from animation and lettering to icons and digital painting. </p><p>Versatility is one of MUTI’s strongest assets. By sharing knowledge, communicating on eye level and a mutual sense of curiosity, they keep on pushing stylistic boundaries and continuously challenge themselves to sustain a shared excitement for the craft. Throughout our conversation, Brad and Miné discuss the difficulties of maintaining artistic versatility, the importance of collaboration, and the balance between creative work and management responsibilities. </p><p>Their shared understanding of creative problem solving is to aspire to always create the kind of work they can be proud of and that is worthy of landing a spot in their pristine portfolio. Our conversation also touches on the challenges of balancing creative freedom with financial stability, the dynamics of working in a team with diverse specializations, and the excitement surrounding upcoming projects and events. </p><p>Listen, learn and share this episode with all your illustration friends! And while you’re at it: <a href="https://www.creativeworks.co/online#sessions"><u>Sign up</u></a> to Studio MUTI’s online session & workshop at Creative Works East on October 2nd and 4th, 2025. </p><p>_________</p><p>FOLLOW MUTI: </p><p>Website: <a href="https://www.studiomuti.co.za"><u>studiomuti.co.za</u></a></p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/studiomuti"><u>@studiomuti</u></a></p><p>Dribbble: <a href="https://dribbble.com/studioMUTI"><u>dribbble.com/studioMUTI</u></a></p><p>_________</p><p>If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow <strong>Paid 2 Draw</strong> on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/paid2drawpodcast/"><u>Instagram</u></a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2zSpzT30eYEQoIy9Z3M7K5"><u>Spotify</u></a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@paid2drawpodcast"><u>TikTok</u></a>. </p><p>_________</p><p>Hosted by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/vikunia_illustration"><u>Vicky Cichoń</u></a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/davidleutert"><u>Dave Leutert</u></a>. Music by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/amandadeffofficial"><u>Amanda Deff</u></a>. </p>
September 3, 2025
33. Angela Kirkwood Rediscovered Her Passion for Animation During Covid
<p>Based in Glasgow, <strong>Angela Kirkwood</strong> is an illustrator and animator known for her whimsical, topsy-turvy worlds filled with expressive characters that inspire joy and curiosity. Having worked for clients like Adult Swim, Nike and The New York Times, her work is characterized by a unique DIY aesthetic that evokes nostalgia for childhood cartoons. Angela transitioned from a career in graphic design during the pandemic to pursuing animation and illustration full-time. </p><p>In this episode, Angela emphasizes the value of seeking inspiration beyond the screen. She shares how stepping away from the computer and immersing herself in real-life experiences fuels her creativity and helps avoid repetition. Angela believes that seeking out inspiration off-line allows for a more personal touch in her work, helping her create authentic art that resonates deeply with audiences. </p><p>Angela's approach to character design is both intuitive and intentional, capturing the essence of human emotion in a playful and engaging way. She draws inspiration from everyday interactions, infusing her characters with a sense of joy and underlying complexity. Her characters—although often simple in form—are designed to be easily animated, allowing their personalities to shine through in motion. </p><p>She also discusses the importance of community support, the impact of AI on jobs, and why life is hard, but reality TV helps. Listen, learn and stop asking for permission to be your own weird, authentic self. </p><p>_________</p><p>MENTIONED LINKS: </p><p>• University of Dundee: <a href="https://www.dundee.ac.uk/undergraduate/illustration"><u>BDes Illustration</u></a> <br>• “<a href="https://theanimatorssurvivalkit.com"><u>The Animator’s Survival Kit</u></a>” by Richard Williams <br>• <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_McLaren"><u>Norman McLaren</u></a> (Scottish-Canadian animator) <br>• “<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0196883"><u>Quasi at the Quackadero</u></a>” (1976) by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Cruikshank"><u>Sally Cruikshank</u></a> <br>• <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priit_P%C3%A4rn"><u>Priit Pärn</u></a> (Estonian cartoonist & animation director) <br>• <a href="https://www.bravotv.com/"><u>Bravo TV</u></a> </p><p>_________</p><p>FOLLOW ANGELA: </p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/angelakirkwood"><u>@angelakirkwood</u></a> <br>Website: <a href="https://www.angelakirkwood.com"><u>angelakirkwood.com</u></a> <br>Shop: <a href="https://www.angelakirkwood.com/shop"><u>angelakirkwood.com/shop</u></a> </p><p>_________</p><p>If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. And follow <strong>Paid 2 Draw</strong> on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/paid2drawpodcast/"><u>Instagram</u></a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2zSpzT30eYEQoIy9Z3M7K5"><u>Spotify</u></a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@paid2drawpodcast"><u>TikTok</u></a>. </p><p>_________</p><p>Hosted by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/vikunia_illustration"><u>Vicky Cichoń</u></a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/davidleutert"><u>Dave Leutert</u></a>. <br>Music by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/amandadeffofficial"><u>Amanda Deff</u></a>. </p>
August 19, 2025
32. Brett Stenson — Finding Balance in Art and Life
<p>By popular demand, we finally talked to Brett Stenson from Portland, Oregon. Brett is a multi-disciplinary artist, illustrator and Senior Art Director at Young Jerks. Heavily influenced by forgotten ephemera from bygone eras, Brett’s work reflects a deep connection to the natural world and explores the delicate balance between nature and human existence. </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, Brett tells us how the ability to get lost in creating something can feel like an advantage during difficult times. He shares insights into his creative journey — from his early days in Wisconsin to working at Jolby & Friends — and we get a detailed description of his wood-carving process and daily routines, despite dark days and buggy video calls. </p><p><br></p><p>Throughout the conversation, Brett emphasizes the need for balance in life, the importance of working with a supportive team and how developing his style was a natural process influenced by experiences. We also touch on topics like mentorships, mental health and Midwestern work ethics. And we almost uncover where the milk comes from. Almost. </p><p><br></p><p>Don’t miss this front-row seat into Brett’s biome! 🧠 And make sure to tell all your design friends about it. Subscribe to stay updated on future convos with other talented artists. </p><p>_________</p><p>MENTIONED LINKS: </p><p>• Milwaukee Institute of Art & Design (MIAD): <a href="https://www.miad.edu/academic-programs/degree-programs/product-design" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Product Design Major</a> </p><p>• <a href="https://jolby.com" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Jolby</a> (Portland-based creative studio) </p><p>• The Dans: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dancassaro/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Dan Cassaro</a> & <a href="https://www.instagram.com/beeteeth/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Dan Christofferson</a> </p><p>• <a href="https://www.ratfink.com" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Ed “Big Daddy” Roth</a> </p><p>• <a href="https://www.richardscarry.com" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Richard Scarry</a> </p><p>• <a href="https://www.gallerynucleus.com" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Nucleus Gallery</a> in Portland </p><p>• <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jellythorn" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Kelly Thorn</a> (Sr. Art Director at Young Jerks) </p><p>• “<a href="https://weastcoast.games/products/desperate-oasis" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Desperate Oasis</a>” from <a href="https://weastcoast.games" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Weast Coast Games</a> </p><p>• <a href="https://hello.houseind.com/work/jimmy-kimmel-live/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">'Jimmy Kimmel Live' logo</a> by House Industries </p><p>• Brett’s <a href="https://mtg.wtf/card/slp/40/Prosperous-Innkeeper" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Prosperous Innkeeper</a> card for Secret Lair / Magic: The Gathering </p><p>_________</p><p>FOLLOW BRETT: </p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/brettpstenson" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">@brettpstenson</a> </p><p>Website: <a href="https://www.brettstenson.com" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">brettstenson.com</a> </p><p>Shop: <a href="https://brettstenson.bigcartel.com" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">brettstenson.bigcartel.com</a> </p><p>YJ Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/youngjerks" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">@youngjerks</a> </p><p>YJ Website: <a href="https://www.youngjerks.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferer">youngjerks.com</a> <br>_________</p><p>If you liked this episode, please subscribe and leave a review. </p><p>And follow <strong>Paid 2 Draw</strong> on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/paid2drawpodcast/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Instagram</a> and <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@paid2drawpodcast" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">TikTok</a>. </p><p>_________</p><p>Hosted by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/vikunia_illustration" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Vicky Cichoń</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/davidleutert" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Dave Leutert</a>. </p><p>Music by <a href="https://www.instagram.com/amandadeffofficial" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">Amanda Deff</a>. </p>
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