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Painter Growth Podcast

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by Mike Gore-Hickman

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If you are a growth-oriented painting contractor, this is what you need. Growing a painting company can be overwhelming. Should I buy leads? How do I price this? What type of marketing should I do? How do I find reliable painters? Join us as we explore sales, marketing, hiring, finances, leadership and more - everything you need to know to scale and grow your painting business. Learn how to get more leads, close more sales, hire more painters, grow your production and make more money in your painting business-all while working less. @paintergrowth on Instagram. Https://www.paintergrowth.com

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June 18, 2026

How Painters Win The Ai Gold Rush (Before It's Too Late)

<p>Tanner Mullen (founder of DripJobs) returns to the Painter Growth Podcast for one of his most tactical conversations yet. Mike Workman and Tanner dig into why software is becoming commoditized, why education and service are the real moats, and how AI is reshaping what it means to run a painting business in 2025.</p><p>Tanner breaks down his new product, Routimize, a route-optimization booking system that lets customers book themselves directly from Facebook at peak intent, eliminates wasted drive time, and is already live in 36 beta companies. He explains why he&#39;s &quot;done with leads,&quot; how the illusion of choice drives take rates, and how the same engine now powers an AI voice agent that books appointments end-to-end on nights and weekends.</p><p>If you&#39;re a painting contractor trying to build an income-producing asset instead of a job, this episode is your playbook.</p><p>⏱️ Timestamps below.</p><p>00:00 Intro: Tanner Mullen returns</p><p>00:32 Why it&#39;s the best time ever to be in business</p><p>01:17 Using AI to automate the boring stuff</p><p>01:52 Building an income-producing asset</p><p>02:46 Risk-takers vs. people who wait</p><p>04:03 The guy who asked for a free trial 4 years apart</p><p>04:29 Developing the investor mindset</p><p>05:13 Why DripJobs killed free trials</p><p>05:33 Software is becoming commoditized</p><p>06:24 Why education &amp; service are the real moat</p><p>06:53 Knowing the problem vs. implementing the change</p><p>07:37 Building a department just for free training</p><p>07:59 The four quadrants: urgent vs. important</p><p>09:06 Time management is the #1 scaling skill</p><p>09:26 Five recommended CEO calendars by business stage</p><p>10:31 How AI changed software development for DripJobs</p><p>11:37 Differentiating yourself in a gold rush</p><p>12:13 Early-mover leverage &amp; filing the patent</p><p>13:18 Trust as a moat: protecting customer data</p><p>14:13 Personal brand leverage in software</p><p>15:02 Killer AI use case: instant custom proposals</p><p>16:30 Staying focused as a product leader (no shiny objects)</p><p>17:03 DripJobs&#39; biggest bottleneck: offline mode &amp; V2</p><p>17:41 What Routimize actually does</p><p>18:03 The origin of DripJobs &amp; speed to lead</p><p>18:51 Why request systems still create friction</p><p>19:42 How Routimize filters territory &amp; enables VAs</p><p>20:37 Building friction to get the right bookings</p><p>20:58 Booking direct from Facebook with an AI chatbot</p><p>21:46 &quot;I don&#39;t want leads anymore&quot;</p><p>22:40 36 companies in beta</p><p>23:14 The illusion of choice &amp; booking rates</p><p>24:17 Live demo: booking inside the service zone</p><p>25:34 Propagating the best appointment time</p><p>26:24 How much time it saves per salesperson</p><p>27:00 The Calendly for service businesses</p><p>27:20 Bulk routing for project managers</p><p>28:19 Tanner the &quot;time dealer&quot;</p><p>28:37 Customer experience &amp; shortening the buying cycle</p><p>29:55 On-the-way texts with real drive-time ETAs</p><p>30:47 The Google Maps API cost reality</p><p>31:05 Voice AI: booking calls on nights &amp; weekends</p><p>32:37 Why callers prefer to book by phone</p><p>33:36 Reassuring admins this won&#39;t replace them</p><p>35:10 Solving a problem that shouldn&#39;t exist</p><p>35:38 Will Routimize beat DripJobs? The December 2027 bet</p><p>36:12 Building features at AI speed</p><p>37:07 The 30-day runway to public launch</p><p>37:50 The pay-gate philosophy &amp; 14-day trial</p><p>38:18 DripJobs V1 vs. V2 strategy</p><p>39:02 Big news: Tanner is fully free from Premium Painting</p><p>39:31 Why job scheduling is a high-level task</p><p>40:14 The estimating &amp; proposal model that freed him</p><p>41:07 Selling the business kicked him into a new gear</p><p>41:49 Building a business worth keeping</p><p>42:36 Measuring cost by how much you think about it</p><p>43:08 Spotting and motivating A-players</p><p>43:29 Be 1% better than your best player</p><p>44:18 The personal development journey since age 16</p><p>45:00 Personal rules for leading a team</p><p>45:20 The State, Story, Strategy framework</p><p>46:43 Getting into the right state faster</p><p>47:24 Tanner&#39;s one-on-one Routimize offer</p><p>48:07 The June 19th deadline &amp; how to claim it</p><p>48:42 Wrap-up</p><p>.</p><p></p>

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June 16, 2026

Dream It or Doubt It: Coaching a Painter Through the Gray Zone

<p>Most painters don&#39;t get what they want because they never actually decide what they want. They live in the &quot;gray zone&quot; — surviving, reacting, putting out fires — and wonder why the business keeps hitting the same ceiling.</p><p>In this live coaching episode, Coach Jesse sits down with Damon, owner of On a Roll Painting, fresh off a record month: nearly $100K in April after doing $325K all of last year. On the surface it&#39;s a huge win. Underneath, there&#39;s a ceiling — a five-year vision he can picture but can&#39;t quite commit to, and the fear that shows up the moment he says it out loud.</p><p>What follows is a real breakthrough, no script and no theory. Jesse walks Damon through the magic wand exercise to call out a specific number, confront the fear of success hiding behind the fear of failure, and step into the identity of the owner he&#39;s becoming — the one running a multi-million dollar business mostly hands-off, with the team, the systems, and the freedom to actually live.</p><p>If you&#39;re a painting business owner stuck between survival and the vision you keep putting off, this one&#39;s for you.</p><p>Inside this episode:</p><ul><li>Why getting specific beats staying &quot;realistic&quot;</li><li>The magic wand exercise to unlock your real five-year vision</li><li>Fear of success vs. fear of failure, and why both keep you on the start line</li><li>How the &quot;$5M owner&quot; version of you actually makes decisions</li><li>The &quot;on a roll&quot; token: a simple way to interrupt stress and stay in momentum</li><li>Why your team only matches half your energy, and what that means for how you show up</li><li>Trusting the next step instead of demanding the whole roadmap</li></ul><p></p>

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June 9, 2026

Health, Fitness & Growing Your Painting Business

<p>Most painting contractors pour everything into the business and quietly let their health fall apart — until one day they wake up as a shadow of the man they wanted to be. In this episode, Mike sits down with Sean Crane, founder of Unstoppable 365, to break down why getting your body, energy, and discipline right is the foundation everything else is built on.Sean shares the story most people never hear: battling addiction through his teens and twenties, spending five and a half years in prison, and using that time to completely rebuild his identity and his health — eventually building a coaching business that&#39;s helped thousands of high performers. From there the two get practical: why nutrition and training come first, how your blood work is really the &quot;P&amp;L&quot; of your health, the real talk on TRT, peptides, and GLP-1s, and why food and phones might be the most underestimated addictions of our time.If you&#39;re a business owner who keeps telling yourself you&#39;ll get to your health &quot;later,&quot; this one&#39;s your wake-up call.If this episode hits home, comment PLAYBOOK below and let us know your biggest takeaway.FOLLOW PAINTER GROWTHSubscribe for more conversations on building a painting business — and the life it&#39;s supposed to buy.Disclaimer: This episode is for informational purposes only and is not medical advice. Always consult a licensed healthcare professional before making changes to your nutrition, training, hormones, or supplementation.</p>

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What is Painter Growth Podcast?

If you are a growth-oriented painting contractor, this is what you need.

Growing a painting company can be overwhelming. Should I buy leads? How do I price this? What type of marketing should I do? How do I find reliable painters?

Join us as we explore sales, marketing, hiring, finances, leadership and more - everything you need to know to scale and grow your painting business.

Learn how to get more leads, close more sales, hire more painters, grow your production and make more money in your painting business-all while working less. @paintergrowth on Instagram. Https://www.paintergrowth.com

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This podcast updates daily.

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