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Why I Almost Quit My PhD & What Coming So Close To Burn Out Taught Me (Pangolin Holiday Special 2025)
In today's episode Jack looks back on 2025 and reflects on the highs and lows of the year. He discusses why he came so close to quitting his PhD and what some time away from the work taught him about community, resilience and loving himself.
Jack also makes some resolutions for 2026 and gives some information on what is coming up on the podcast this year!
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Learn more about the Chester Zoo Changemakers Toolkit here: https://www.chesterzoo.org/conservation-science-education/international-conservation-academy/conservation-changemakers-toolkit (https://www.chesterzoo.org/conservation-science-education/international-conservation-academy/conservation-changemakers-toolkit)
Music Credits:
At The Shore by Kevin MacLeod, Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3389-at-the-shore License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ AngloZulu by Kevin MacLeod, Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3372-anglozulu License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
31 Oct 2025TRANSCRIPT
119. World Lemur Day 2025! (with Abby Ross & Jhoanny Rasojivola from TDARFAC)
Happy World Lemur Day! This year we are celebrating with two amazing speakers from The Dr Abigail Ross Foundation for Applied Conservation - Abby Ross & Jhoanny Rasojivola!
This dynamic duo are here to discuss reforestation, the challenges of conservation, the development of a new community hospital, how they are creating a new home for lemurs rescued from the pet trade, and how conservation only works if it is an equitable and just process. We also chat about the bizarre and beautiful frogs, tenrecs and lemurs of Madagascar!
The two also speak on the current unrest in Madagascar, sending their love and support to the communities and conservationists who have been impacted by this.
Thank you so much to the Lemur Conservation Network for their continued support!
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Learn more about TDARFAC here: https://www.foundationforappliedconservation.org (https://www.foundationforappliedconservation.org)
Follow Lemur Conservation Network on Instagram: @lemurconservationnetwork
Learn more about Lemur Conservation Network here: https://www.lemurconservationnetwork.org (https://www.lemurconservationnetwork.org)
Music Credits:
At The Shore by Kevin MacLeod, Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3389-at-the-shore License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ AngloZulu by Kevin MacLeod, Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3372-anglozulu License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
12 Jul 2025
118. Chasing Sunlight (with Mark David Boden & Fennella Humphreys) [Recorded Live at the National Museum Cardiff]
Welcome to the final episode of ‘Songs of the Skies’! Today I am joined by Mark Boden and Fennella Humphries to discuss 'Chasing Sunlight'! This incredible piece of music tells the story of the Arctic Tern, and how it takes part in one of natures greatest and most epic quests!
First, we will hear about Mark’s time learning from these birds on the Isle of May and Anglesey, and how that translated into song. Then Fenella will explain how she brought that music to life!
Since this is the last episode of the series I would like to say a huge thank you to everyone on the Sinfonia Cymru team who invited me to take part in this event, it was an absolute honour.
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Learn more about Sinfonia Cymru here: https://sinfonia.cymru (https://sinfonia.cymru)
Follow Fenella on Instagram: @fenellaviolin
Follow Mark on Instagram: @markdavidboden
Thank you to Sinfonia Cymru for providing photographs for this cover art, taken by David Edmunds (@davidedmundsphotography77)
Music Credits:
At The Shore by Kevin MacLeod, Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3389-at-the-shore License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/ AngloZulu by Kevin MacLeod, Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3372-anglozulu License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
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Why I Almost Quit My PhD & What Coming So Close To Burn Out Taught Me (Pangolin Holiday Special 2025)
Published 5 Jan 2026 · Transcript excerpt
[…] And I think in trying to do all those things, while also dealing with a subject matter that is big and heavy, we burn ourselves out. And I think, especially with the PhD, for example, I was trying to do all these things. I was trying to make all my supervisors happy. I was trying to, you know, answer all of these big questions that I'd been sitting with for a couple of years and it just all got too much. And I, at the start of this year, decided that, right, January, February, I'm going to have to take a break from my PhD. And that was a really hard decision to come to. And I think it's something that a lot of people who are Maybe, like me, if you're listening to this, maybe you're a bit like me, stopping sometimes feels like defeat. […]
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