Pastors & Money Podcast

About Pastors & Money Podcast

Helping helps pastors, ministry leaders, and churches stop being limited by finances and start thriving financially, using money as a tool to fuel God’s mission in our churches and our families. Want to be a guest on Pastors & Money Podcast? Send Joy Hunt a message on PodMatch, here: https://www.podmatch.com/hostdetailpreview/pastorsandmoney

Publisher

Joy Suzanne Hunt

Category

religion & spirituality

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

8 Apr 2024

Latest episode

30 Jan 2026

Latest episodes

56 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   30 Jan 2026

   We’re Taking a Break to Vision Cast (See You in April!)

   Hello there! I’m Joy Suzanne Hunt, and this is the Pastors and Money Podcast. I wanted to hop on really quick to let you know that we’re taking a short break from the podcast. I’m using this time to pray over and set vision for the new year and for our next podcast season. We’ll be back in April with conversations to help you thrive in your ministry and finances. In the meantime, if you’re looking for content, I’d love for you to go back and listen to any episodes you might have missed. You can find our entire backlist in your favorite podcast app or over at pastorsandmoney.com. You can also follow me on social media @debtfreejoy for financial tips and encouragement. And make sure you’re subscribed so you’ll get notified when the new season drops in April. Thanks for being part of this community. I’m excited about what God has in store for us this year, and I can’t wait to share it with you. Talk to you soon!

2. 

   31 Dec 2025

   Financial Freedom Transformed My Ministry: A Pastor’s Guide to Money Without Shame with Nicholas E Michels

   Is it selfish for pastors to focus on their own financial future? What if prioritizing your financial freedom is actually the most biblical thing you can do for your ministry? In this powerful conversation with Dr. Nicholas Michels—financial strategist, bestselling author, and founder of Michels Family Financial—we tackle the guilt and stigma that keep ministry leaders from achieving financial freedom. Dr. Nick shares his personal journey from witnessing financial devastation in his childhood home to helping his own mother rebuild her life, and how his brother’s experience as a pastor opened his eyes to the unique financial challenges ministry families face. Discover why financial stress destroys marriages, how to create a vision statement that transforms your relationship with your spouse, and why “outwardly successful but inwardly stressed” describes so many ministry leaders. Dr. Nick explains the “mastermind effect” in marriage, shares the practical steps to get on the same page financially, and reveals why the Bible is the greatest success money book ever written. This episode will change how you think about money, stewardship, and what it means to serve well in ministry. Read the full transcript. (https://pastorsandmoney.com/financial-freedom-nicholas-e-michels-transcript/) What You’ll Learn Why pastors shouldn’t feel guilty about prioritizing their finances (and how it strengthens ministry) How childhood money experiences shape your current financial decisions The vision statement exercise that saved Dr. Nick’s marriage and transformed his finances Why being “outwardly successful but inwardly stressed” is so common in ministry How to get on the same page financially with your spouse (even if one person handles the money) The “mastermind effect” happens when two minds work toward one financial goal Why financial freedom deepens your relationship with God instead of replacing trust Practical daily activities that lead to financial peace and confidence How to use your financial struggles as a powerful ministry testimony Key Quotes “If you have a church and you’re teaching the good news and all of a sudden your finances go south and you don’t have a church anymore because of that, how are you gonna teach people the good news? So prioritizing finance is absolutely important. It doesn’t make you selfish.” – Dr. Nicholas Michels “You don’t take money with you, but you take the hearts and souls of those you lead to Christ with you.” – Dr. Nicholas Michels (quoting his client Donnie) “When you’re having money problems, money sucks the joy out of every aspect of your life, every category.” – Dr. Nicholas Michels “My happiness wasn’t going up ’cause we weren’t doing it together and that was my fault.” – Dr. Nicholas Michels “I just want to know that we’re in this together.” – Dr. Nick’s wife (the turning point conversation) “Where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. If you’re not aligned on where the treasure is, then you’re not aligned in terms of your hearts.” – Joy Suzanne Hunt “It wasn’t like ‘I’m not trusting God ’cause I’m working on this.’ Me and God are working on this together.” – Joy Suzanne Hunt “Happiness is on the other side of resiliency.” – Dr. Nicholas Michels “The Bible’s the greatest success money book ever written. All the great advice out there from Dave Ramsey to Warren Buffett can be found in the Bible.” – Dr. Nicholas Michels About Our Guest Dr. Nicholas E. Michels is a financial strategist, bestselling author, and founder of Michels Family Financial. What makes Dr. Nick unique is his personal journey from financial hardship in a broken home to financial freedom and his passion for helping people, including ministry leaders, overcome the guilt and stigma around managing money well. With his brother serving as a pastor, Nick understands the unique financial challenges that ministry families face and believes that being a good steward of your finances isn’t selfish—it’s biblical. His book, “Rich by Choice,” teaches people not just how to become wealthy, but how to be rich in faith, relationships, and life experiences. Resources Mentioned Rich by Choice (book by Dr. Nicholas Michels) Free Gift: The Power of Compounding Chapter – Get your free chapter at www.richbychoicebook.com (http://www.richbychoicebook.com/) Michels Family Financial The Vision Statement Exercise (detailed in Rich by Choice) The Rocking Chair Test – Looking back at 110 years old, what makes a great life? John Templeton Sr.’s quote: “Anything you do can be your ministry.” Jeremiah 29:11 – “For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord.” Practical Takeaways The Vision Statement Exercise Grab 10 pieces of paper and find a quiet area Take 45 minutes and write out EVERYTHING you want to accomplish in life Be specific – not just “I want to retire” but what does Tuesday afternoon look like when you’re retired? Cover all areas: faith, personal growth, relationships, family, ministry goals Do this separately with your spouse, then come together Go back through and circle what’s REALLY important (not just nice to have) From there, create the exact money strategies to get you there Getting on the Same Page Financially Make it a date day – get a babysitter and put it on the calendar Schedule financial conversations several times a year Have one person do the budget rough draft, and the other make adjustments Both should be involved, even if roles are different Ask about each expense: “Is this getting us where we want to be? Bringing us joy? Bringing us peace?” Daily Activities for Financial Peace Budgeting Automation Giving Investing Saving Regular communication with your spouse Connect with Dr. Nicholas Michels Website: www.richbychoicebook.com (http://www.richbychoicebook.com/) Get your free “Power of Compounding” chapter at the website (click “Free Gift” in the header) Connect with Pastors & Money Email: joy@pastorsandmoney.com Instagram/Facebook: @pastorsandmoney Website: pastorsandmoney.com/podcast The Pastors & Money Podcast helps pastors, ministry leaders, and churches start thriving financially using money as a tool to fuel God’s mission in our churches and families.

3. 

   17 Dec 2025

   Breaking Generational Strongholds: Pass Better Money Habits to Your Kids

   What if the money struggles you’re facing today aren’t really about your budget—but about patterns passed down from your parents and grandparents? In this powerful conversation with Andy Yoder, Ramsey Preferred Financial Coach and former youth pastor, we explore how generational money habits shape our financial decisions and, more importantly, how to break free and pass better money habits to the next generation. This post may contain affiliate links. They don’t cost you a penny, but they help provide a source of income for this site. For more information, please see our disclosures (https://pastorsandmoney.com/disclosures/). Andy shares his own journey from financial stress and credit card anxiety to peace and purpose, revealing how his transformation didn’t just change his marriage—it became a ministry. From parents who never talked about money to emotional spending that masks loneliness, Andy unpacks the hidden patterns that keep families trapped in unhealthy money cycles. Read the Full Transcript. (https://pastorsandmoney.com/better-money-habits-andy-yoder-transcript/) What You’ll Learn Discover practical, age-appropriate ways to teach your kids about money, why your children are watching (even when you think they’re not), and how handling money well opens doors for the gospel. Whether your kids are toddlers or adults, it’s never too late to start building better money habits that will echo through generations. How generational money patterns get passed down (and how to recognize them in your own life) Why financial stress affects every area of life—marriage, parenting, and your relationship with God The power of testimony: How one mom in her 50s inspired her adult kids to make radical financial changes Practical ways to teach financial literacy in daily life (with real examples you can use today) Why money problems often reveal deeper needs for community, purpose, and connection How to include kids in family financial goals without overwhelming them The surprising connection between faithful money management and gospel witness Why pastors and ministry leaders struggle to talk about their own money challenges Key Quotes “I thought it was too late, but they’re watching. And that was the, it’s the power of a testimony. It’s the power of a changed life.” – Andy Yoder “You’re handling money well, that opens up the doors for the gospel to go forth… the way that I’m handling not my money, but God’s money is, could be a direct result of somebody coming to know Jesus for the first time.” – Andy Yoder “They notice you have conversations about money that aren’t arguments. You know, they notice, oh, oh, there’s a budget meeting. They notice those things, and we don’t always think, but kids pick up on stuff.” – Joy Suzanne Hunt “The most important decisions are the small ones. And that’s where you’re making one small decision at a time.” – Andy Yoder’s mentor About Our Guest Andy Yoder is a Ramsey Preferred Financial Coach (http://yoderfinancialcoaching.com) (https://www.yoderfinancialcoaching.com/)who spent years in youth ministry and as an associate pastor before discovering his calling to help families achieve generational financial transformation. After his own journey from financial anxiety to freedom (beginning in 2016-2017), Andy now specializes in helping individuals and couples—especially those in ministry—break free from generational money patterns and build better money habits. His heart for seeing kids stay connected to their faith naturally connects to his passion for helping parents pass on both spiritual and financial wisdom to the next generation. Resources Mentioned Dave Ramsey’s “The Total Money Makeover (https://amzn.to/4a0KVZH)“ Financial Peace University The Baby Steps Practical Takeaways Teaching Moments to Try This Week: Use junk mail ads to discuss the real cost of financing purchases Give kids a budget at the fair or store and let them make spending decisions Include children in family financial goals with a vision board Divide allowance into three categories: give, save, spend Involve kids in Christmas shopping with a set budget per person Let teenagers participate in car shopping discussions (cash only!) For Parents: Track your spending for one week—just observe without judgment Have one money conversation with your spouse that isn’t an argument Identify one money pattern from your childhood you’d like to change Find one trusted person to talk honestly about your financial challenges Connect with Pastors & Money Email: joy@pastorsandmoney.com (mailto:joy@pastorsandmoney.com) Instagram (http://instagram.com/pastorsandmoney)/Facebook (http://facebook.com/pastorsandmoney): @pastorsandmoney Website: pastorsandmoney.com/podcast (http://pastorsandmoney.com/podcast) The Pastors & Money Podcast helps pastors, ministry leaders, and churches start thriving financially using money as a tool to fuel God’s mission in our churches and families. This post may contain affiliate links. They don’t cost you a penny, but they help provide a source of income for this site. For more information, please see our disclosures (https://pastorsandmoney.com/disclosures/).

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