Perfectly Unfinished Conversations | It's Good Enough, Let's Go!

About Perfectly Unfinished Conversations | It's Good Enough, Let's Go!

The Iron Lab Podcast: raw, real, unfiltered, unfinished conversations about trying to EAT, SLEEP, TRAIN and LIVE a messy, imperfect life. Support, accountability, fun and authenticity.

Publisher

Joely Churchill and Kim Berube

Category

education · health & fitness

Language

en

Explicit

Yes

First episode

27 May 2024

Latest episode

24 Mar 2025

Latest episodes

23 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   24 Mar 2025

   Help us Build Up YOUR Metabolic Blueprint

   In this special season finale, Coach Jo and Coach Kim reflect on an incredible first season, expressing deep gratitude to their listeners for their engagement and support. From day one, their mission has been to create a space for raw, unfiltered conversations about health, nutrition, and fitness—without the guilt and shame often found in the industry. They’ve tackled everything from metabolism and stress to hormones and toxic diet culture, empowering listeners to take control of their long-term health with knowledge, not quick fixes. As they wrap up the season, the hosts explore The Metabolic Blueprint, a program they designed to create long-term success through personalized habits and sustainable strategies. They also announce a brief hiatus in the podcast to focus on personal commitments and future plans. Listeners are encouraged to stay connected via social media and their gym, Iron Lab Lacombe. If you’re ready to ditch the diet cycle and find a healthier, more balanced approach, now is the perfect time to explore personalized coaching (in-person or virtual), the Metabolic Blueprint, and start building habits that truly serve you. Resources discussed in this episode: The Metabolic Blueprint (https://www.ironlablacombe.com/metabolic-blueprint) -- Contact Joely Churchill and Kim Berube | Iron Lab: Website: IronLabLacombe.com (http://ironlablacombe.com) Instagram: Iron.Lab.Lacombe (https://www.instagram.com/iron.lab.lacombe/) Facebook: IronLabLacombe (https://www.facebook.com/IronLabLacombe) Coach Jo Instagram: @CoachJoChurch (https://www.instagram.com/coachjochurch/) Coach Kim Instagram: @CoachKimBerube (https://www.instagram.com/coachkimberube/) Course: Metabolic Blueprint (https://www.ironlablacombe.com/metabolic-blueprint) -- Transcript: Coach Jo 00:09 Welcome to Perfectly Unfinished Conversations, the Iron Lab podcast with Coach Jo… Coach Kim 00:14 …and Coach Kim… Coach Jo 00:15 Where you ride shotgun with us as we have raw, real, unfiltered, and unfinished conversations about trying to eat, sleep, train, and live with some integrity in a messy, imperfect life. Coach Kim 00:27 We're all about creating a strong support system, taking radical personal responsibility, having fun, and being authentic. And one of the most common themes you're going to find in this podcast is the idea that we create positive momentum in our life, by doing what we call b-minus work. Coach Jo 00:45 We’re making gains and getting ahead and loving life without self-sabotaging our goals by striving for perfection. We get it done by moving ahead… Coach Kim 00:55 …before we're ready… Coach Jo 00:56 …when we aren't feeling like it… Coach Kim 00:58 …and without hesitation. Coach Jo 1:00 Be sure to subscribe now on Apple or Spotify, so you don't miss a single episode. It’s good enough. Let's go. Coach Jo  01:11 Welcome back everybody to what is a bittersweet episode of the podcast. Today is our last episode of season one, at least for now, as we take a little hiatus and before we jump into everything, we just want to take a second to say how much we appreciate all of you who have been listening, engaging and really, truly just showing up for these conversations. Coach Kim  01:34 Yeah, we started this podcast because we wanted to open up and have real, honest conversations, yes, about health and nutrition and fitness, but also the way that we just try to fit it into a crazy, busy, average, normal life without all the extra bullshit. And so the response from you guys has really been incredible. We're so happy. We've had people reaching out, saying how much they love the episodes and how they've changed and supported the way they look at their food, and how they train and, most importantly, how they see themselves. And so that's the whole goal, right? And not just to tell people what to do, but to help them understand why their body works the way that it does. Coach Jo  02:14 So today, as we wrap things up for now, we want to do three things. First, we want to take a look back at why we started this podcast in the very, very first place. Second, talk about how the health and fitness industry has essentially evolved because, trust us, it has again and again. And third, we'll leave you with some tools, resources and ways to keep growing even while we're on this break. Coach Kim  02:39 And of course, we'll share what's next for us and how you can stay connected, because this isn't goodbye, it's just see you in a few months. So Jo. Coach Jo  02:49 Alright, let's go back to the beginning. Why did we start this podcast in the first place? Kim, what was the driving force behind it? Coach Kim  02:57 Well, for me, it was pretty simple. We wanted to offer a way, a no-barrier, way for everybody to spend time with us and get to know us and participate in these conversations that we thought were important and relevant, but also it kind of came from this place of being tired of the same old conversation in fitness and nutrition that in that space, that shaming and accusatory kind of conversation that made it seem like all you had to do was count your calories and cut carbs and do more cardio to fix your body. If you would just do it right, you would get all the results that you want. And we're going to talk about more about this in depth today, but we've been in this industry long enough to know that real health doesn't work that way. It has been drilled into us that if I just control my food and find my perfect number. Weight loss will happen. It will be effortless and come easy. And we're seeing it time and time again with our clients, that that is not always it. And so, I wanted to have deeper conversations about how to do this in a normal life, but also about metabolism and stress and hormones and strength and mindset and lifestyle, and how to incorporate all of those things and to feel like it's all worthwhile and making a dent. Coach Jo  04:16 Yeah, and also, we wanted to help people unlearn all the toxic diet culture nonsense that they've been fed by the industry, media for years and simply just have some honest conversations about it. The guilt around food, the obsession with the scale, the idea that your worth is tied to how much you weigh. We wanted to create this safe, transparent space where people could learn, grow, laugh, and there's been lots of swears, and take action in a way that feels. Feels empowering, not restrictive. Coach Kim  04:48 That I think, is probably the sweetest line of it. And it's been amazing to see how many of you have resonated with that message. This isn't about quick fixes or punishing your body. You there is no six weeks to six pack abs. It doesn't fucking work that way. And as long as you are on that rabbit… what do you call it? Coach Jo  05:10 Hamster wheel! Coach Kim 05:11 Hamster wheel, you're gonna drive yourself crazy. And that cycle alone, I have to do it perfectly in order to get resu...

2. 

   10 Mar 2025

   HOW TO EAT LIKE A GROWN UP

   In this episode, Coach Jo and Coach Kim ask the million dollar question: why do we eat like college students or unsupervised thirteen-year-olds? They tackle the issue of real food versus processed food and the easy fast food companies have created for our busy lives that do not help our bodies. Why do we reach for chips instead of chicken? And how do we start eating like grown ups? Coach Jo and Coach Kim get real about what’s in snack food, the allure of sugar, and why protein needs our full attention. Their conversation highlights the realities of our busy lives, where we just can’t find time and energy to make real food, how convenience food is chemically designed to draw us in but never satisfy, and the hard truth about cooking like a grown up. Coach Jo and Coach Kim talk about feeling a dopamine rush versus satiety, sugar cravings versus real energy, and how to think about food purchasing and planning strategically. And they talk about taste! It has to taste good. How do we accomplish that? Discipline, willpower, and listening to Coach Jo and Coach Kim walk us through eating like grown ups. — Contact Joely Churchill and Kim Berube | Iron Lab: Website: IronLabLacombe.com (http://ironlablacombe.com) Instagram: Iron.Lab.Lacombe (https://www.instagram.com/iron.lab.lacombe/) Facebook: IronLabLacombe (https://www.facebook.com/IronLabLacombe) Coach Jo Instagram: @CoachJoChurch (https://www.instagram.com/coachjochurch/) Coach Kim Instagram: @CoachKimBerube (https://www.instagram.com/coachkimberube/) Course: Metabolic Blueprint (https://www.ironlablacombe.com/metabolic-blueprint) — Transcript Coach Jo: [00:00:08] Welcome to Perfectly Unfinished Conversations, the Iron Lab podcast with Coach Jo. Coach Kim: [00:00:13] And Coach Kim. Coach Jo: [00:00:15] Where you ride shotgun with us as we have raw, real, unfiltered and unfinished conversations about trying to eat, sleep, train, and live with some integrity in a messy, imperfect life. Coach Kim: [00:00:27] We are all about creating a strong support system, taking radical personal responsibility, having fun, and being authentic. And one of the most common themes you're going to find in this podcast is the idea that we create positive momentum in our life by doing what we call B-minus work. Coach Jo: [00:00:45] We are making gains and getting ahead and loving life without self-sabotaging our goals by striving for perfection. We get it done by moving ahead. Coach Kim: [00:00:55] Before we're ready... Coach Jo: [00:00:56] ... When we aren't feeling like it... Coach Kim: [00:00:58] ... And without hesitation. Coach Jo: [00:01:00] Be sure to subscribe now on Apple or Spotify so you don't miss a single episode. It's good enough. Let's go. Coach Jo: [00:01:10] All right, we're back for another perfectly unfinished conversation. And today we're tackling something that we think way too many people can relate to. Like, why do we still eat like unsupervised 13 year olds? Or better yet, how the hell do we start eating like actual grown ups when the world just keeps shoving Pop-Tarts and granola bars and artificially dyed beverages in our faces? Speaking of artificially dyed beverages, did you know that they have a Skittles drink now that I saw? Coach Kim: [00:01:39] I saw it in the grocery store. Coach Jo: [00:01:39] I was like, are you kidding me? My kid was like, I want that. I'm like, no, I said that makes you sick, I told him. Coach Kim: [00:01:46] Oh, really? Yeah. I don't blame you. Coach Jo: [00:01:49] But anyways, let's chat about all this today. And don't forget, stick around until the end of this episode, because we've got a little update on what's next for the perfectly unfinished. So don't miss it. Coach Kim: [00:01:59] So spoiler alert. A lot of this conversation we need to hear. So honestly, that includes me. Like if I didn't make a conscious effort, my default would still to this day be some variation of gluten free toast, peanut butter, and way too much coffee. And listen, at almost 55, I should fucking know better. Coach Jo: [00:02:22] Right? Like, I have two kids, I run a business, I know how to structure my life, and yet the sheer willpower it takes to not just like eat a handful of goldfish crackers any time of day throughout my house, like, even just as a lunch. But like, if that's just my lunch while running around my house, like, it's just ridiculous. So, like, what is wrong with us, Kim? Coach Kim: [00:02:42] Well, I think we were set up to fail, right? I've told Jo this before. When I had my first two kids, 1992 and 1994, I refer to the 90s and early 2000 as my Oprah years, pre lost in the void of my cell phone era, when I was working outside the home Monday to Friday, and I had four kids between the ages of 4 and 14 and I was where you're at, I was fucking tapped out. And I would come home at night and cook dinner and listen to Oprah in the living room on TV. And the television taught me that McCain's deep dish pizza was part of a well-balanced diet, and that I could absolutely, with certainty, trust everything that had the green check mark on the box. And so between the 80s and 90s, that low fat, low calorie diet culture era and the rise and accessibility of processed food, because you and I have talked about this too before, where when I was a kid, 1974, 76, 78, going through the grocery store, you did not have an aisle, an entire aisle of cereal. You did not. You had a section that might have had Frosted Flakes and Froot Loops, Rice Krispies. Corn Flakes. Muesli. Puffed rice. Puffed wheat. That was it. Like you did not have the accessibility of processed food with all of the marketing that we do now. And on top of it, in the 90s, we were raising latchkey kids, right? Who in that time, it was still okay for kids to get themselves home from school and keep themselves busy until the parents got home. You know, but they developed the shittiest eating habits. And we're just now unpacking and unlearning decades of bad programing every time we pick up a vegetable. Coach Jo: [00:04:35] Exactly like we grew up thinking microwave dinners. Like Kraft Dinner. Coach Kim: [00:04:41] Lean Cuisine. Coach Jo: [00:04:42] Yeah. Hungry Man. I remember there's a couple Hungry Mans in the deep freeze in the garage, you guys will be okay, right? We'll see you tomorrow. And they just, like, leave. And I'd be like, it'd be the best thing ever. And then, funny story enough, me and my cousin, one time we decided to go buy one to have like some childhood memory of it for like later in the day we we ate it and we were like, it was the most disgusting thing. Like the dessert, the apple turnover, the dessert, whatever it was tasted like a pine tree, like smelly thing you'd light in your house. It was horrible. Yeah, it was horrible. But like, and now ...

3. 

   24 Feb 2025

   DON'T YOU DARE HIT SNOOZE: The morning routine real talk

   In this episode, Coach Jo and Coach Kim dive into the power of morning routines and how they impact productivity, well-being, and overall success. Each coach shares their personal struggles to create and maintain a morning routine and share strategies for how to make their mornings successful. This includes prepping the night before, not hitting the snooze button, skipping the doom scroll, and eating a healthy breakfast. They discuss how small habits—like drinking water first thing in the morning and planning the night before—can make a big difference in energy levels and focus throughout the day. The conversation highlights key strategies for building a sustainable morning routine, including reducing decision fatigue, prioritizing protein-rich breakfasts, and avoiding common sabotagers like social media and an unorganized start to the day. Coach Jo and Coach Kim also explore how nighttime habits influence mornings and offer practical tips to create a routine that is both effective and flexible when life gets in the way. Tune in for actionable steps to transform your mornings and set yourself up for success! Resources discussed in this episode: Mel Robbins - The 5 Second Rule (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9tG_Mrj90M) -- Contact Joely Churchill and Kim Berube | Iron Lab: Website: IronLabLacombe.com (http://ironlablacombe.com) Instagram: Iron.Lab.Lacombe (https://www.instagram.com/iron.lab.lacombe/) Facebook: IronLabLacombe (https://www.facebook.com/IronLabLacombe) Coach Jo Instagram: @CoachJoChurch (https://www.instagram.com/coachjochurch/) Coach Kim Instagram: @CoachKimBerube (https://www.instagram.com/coachkimberube/) Course: Metabolic Blueprint (https://www.ironlablacombe.com/metabolic-blueprint) -- Transcript Coach Jo 00:09 Welcome to Perfectly Unfinished Conversations, the Iron Lab podcast with Coach Jo… Coach Kim 00:14 …and Coach Kim… Coach Jo 00:15 Where you ride shotgun with us as we have raw, real, unfiltered, and unfinished conversations about trying to eat, sleep, train, and live with some integrity in a messy, imperfect life. Coach Kim 00:27 We're all about creating a strong support system, taking radical personal responsibility, having fun, and being authentic. And one of the most common themes you're going to find in this podcast is the idea that we create positive momentum in our life, by doing what we call b-minus work. Coach Jo 00:45 We’re making gains and getting ahead and loving life without self-sabotaging our goals by striving for perfection. We get it done by moving ahead… Coach Kim 00:55 …before we're ready… Coach Jo 00:56 …when we aren't feeling like it… Coach Kim 00:58 …and without hesitation. Coach Jo 1:00 Be sure to subscribe now on Apple or Spotify, so you don't miss a single episode. It’s good enough. Let's go. Welcome back, folks. We are going to dive right in today on the importance of morning routines. So Kim, tell me the truth here. How's your morning routine? Coach Kim  1:19 Well, funny you should ask, because my sleep is a mess right now. And that affects my morning routine for sure. 80% of the time, I love my morning routine, and right now it's pretty dialed in. Like it's Monday, and it's pretty dialed in, and I'm relieved and happy about that. But if you would’ve asked me Friday, I was a mess. And on the days where I'm early coaching mornings and when my alarm goes off at four, like I don't like those mornings very much. And I'm, if I'm not very organized the night before, to get out of the house by 5am I set myself up to fail all day. So, I prefer to wake up without an alarm and to sit and drink something hot. I like to journal and dump out my brain in the morning and then eat breakfast and pack my meals. But recently, I've been opening up my phone too early, which sucks me into the vortex of lost lifetime. And I find the darker winter hard, because I love getting outside when the sun's coming up. That's one of my favourite habits ever, and I'm kind of over the dark right now in the season, just with winter. So I was really excited when I drove to work this morning that the sun's coming up quarter to eight it’s light. Coach Jo 2:26 The sun was shining before I got my car. Coach Kim 2:28 Amazing, because it's minus 31 this morning, and that was tough. But on the days that I struggle to make my morning routine happen, like on the days where I don't do all the things that I love, I I'm a disaster all day long. Like, I don't eat a great breakfast, I don't pack adequate meals for lunch or snacks. I leave my water bottle behind. I'll decide, oh, I can just grab something on the way, which is forcing me not only to spend money, and it also forces me to try to rely on someplace out there that fits foods that align with my health and my plan, my goals, right? So, that's just a bad idea. So, to top it off, I come to work feeling like I don't want to be there because I'm not ready, and my hair is probably half-assed and my makeup hasn't done. Coach Jo 3:09 Oh, I liked your hair today. Coach Kim 3:10 Oh, thanks. Coach Jo 3:11 I did. It was nice and straight. Coach Kim 3:12 Today was a good day, but if you would ask me Friday, what'd you say to me? You said, Elvira or something. I've even forgotten my laptop before, at home. Coach Jo 3:25 Yeah. Coach Kim 3:26 Like, talk about disorganized. So, yeah. Coach Jo  3:27 You know, this topic is so timely because I recently came back from a hockey tournament, which is four and a half hours away, and I feel like I was hit by a dump truck today. Even though, you know, I was sleeping early enough, even though I tried to have food ready, I tried, but I really didn't try. I didn't meal prep, like I should have. I'm just exhausted from the weekend with my two young boys, where I was riding solo and it was just a long ass drive home. So like, what I hear us saying is that this whole thing, things could have been avoided if we had taken a few minutes to plan ahead the previous night. Coach Kim  4:00 Yeah, makes me wonder how many people are rolling out of bed and totally just hitting the ground running every day, which I would absolutely hate. Like could is rolling out of bed and winging it an actual strategy? It could be a strategy, but probably not a great one. And so we're talking about the importance of a morning routine, because rolling out of bed and winging it might work if you've built really strong habits that keep you on track without much thought, but for most people, this habit or this approach leads to decision fatigue and inconsistency and frustration, so a little bit of structure, like a solid morning routine, a set workout schedule, or even just time set aside to plan meals, can make a huge difference in energy and focus and time, free time and long term success. So sure you can wing it, but you'll probably get better results if you at least. Have a loose plan. Coach J...

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