The PerMissional Leader Podcast exists to inspire church, business, cultural and family leaders to ask, “am I leading like Jesus?” We’ll do this through in-depth interviews of Permissional like leaders and those they’ve affected, sharing their life stories, successes, failures, and ways they’ve been transformed to live Permissionally.
Tim Hawks - The Power of Micro: Unleashing Gospel Saturation
Join us as we sit down with Tim Hawks, former Lead Pastor of Hill Country Bible Church Austin. For 35 years, Tim led the charge in planting 44 churches in the greater Austin area. Now, he's dedicated to seeing the gospel saturate communities worldwide. In this episode, Tim shares his journey, including the shift from a "bring them in" church growth model to a passionate pursuit of personal discipleship. He reveals his "heavy sorrow" over the decline of Christianity, particularly in post-Chris...
28 Feb 2025
From Ambition to Surrender: Scot Caley on Leadership, Redemption & Disciple-Making
In this episode, Scot Caley shares his journey from growing up on a farm with a Christian family to becoming a church leader focused on missional discipleship. Scot reflects on the impact of his early family life, where his parents instilled responsibility and trust, shaping him into a leader. He recounts significant mentorship from his youth pastor, Rick Smalling, and influential experiences in sports that helped develop his leadership skills. Scot discusses his transition from pursuing agri...
28 Feb 2025
From Dumpster to Discipleship: Chris Gratton’s Powerful Journey of Coming to Faith in Christ
In this episode of the PerMissional Leadership Podcast, Chris Gratton shares his incredible journey from a non-Christian upbringing to finding his calling in ministry through a powerful encounter with Jesus. From his unlikely start behind a dumpster to serving as a worship leader and mentor, Chris’s story is filled with authenticity and transformation. Chris dives into the relationships that shaped his faith, including mentors like Theo Shepherd, who challenged him to make difficult decisions...
28 Feb 2025
From Brokenness to Bold Leadership: Marlan Mincks on Church Planting, Mentorship & Gospel Impact
In this episode of the PerMissional Leadership Podcast, Marlan Mincks shares his remarkable testimony of transformation from a troubled past to discovering his true calling in ministry. From growing up in a nominal Catholic family to finding new life in Christ, Marlan takes us through his journey of becoming a church planter and leader with a unique, relationship-focused approach to ministry. You’ll hear Marlan’s reflections on the challenges of traditional church models, his experiences with...
28 Feb 2025
Multiplying Disciples, Not Just Churches: Andrew & Sierra Spellman on Simple, Missional Living
In this episode, Andrew and Sierra Spellman share their personal spiritual journeys and their involvement in the KC Underground movement, emphasizing a relational, disciple-making approach to faith. Sierra discusses her upbringing and the lack of life-to-life mentorship, while Andrew highlights the pivotal role his friend Pete played in his early discipleship. They contrast traditional church models with a disciple-making movement (DMM) focused on multiplying disciples and empowering individu...
28 Feb 2025
From Burnout to Breakthrough: Tommy Rutledge on Grace-Filled Leadership & Missional Living
In this episode of the PerMissional Leadership Podcast, Tommy Rutledge shares his powerful story of transformation, from growing up in a non-Christian home to discovering his calling in ministry. Tommy reflects on his early spiritual formation, the healing of his relationship with his father, and the mentors who guided him on his path to vocational ministry. As Tommy dives into his journey, he talks about overcoming burnout, shifting from a performance-driven mindset to a more relational, gra...
21 Jan 2025
The Commissioning Pastor: Steve Andrews on Faith, Leadership, Struggles, and Building a Lasting Legacy
In this episode of the Permissional Podcast, we talk with Steve Andrews, one of the founding pastors of Kensington Community Church. Steve shares his journey from growing up in Memphis, Tennessee with his faith-filled parents to co-founding Kensington Church in 1990 through his stepping down as lead pastor. He reflects on key moments like his transformative time spent in Kenya in the early days of starting Kensington with a mission to reach people far from God. Steve emphasizes the importance...
16 Dec 2024
From Pepsi to Planting: Nick Boring on Kingdom Collaboration and Church Multiplication
Nick Boring is a seasoned leader in church planting and Kingdom collaboration, with a rich background as a Sales & Marketing executive for Fortune 500 companies like Pepsi and General Motors. After two decades in corporate America, he shifted to ministry, serving at Kensington Community Church, where he led the Vision2020 initiative to plant 40 multiplying churches. Now with Stadia and Kingdom Collaboration Ministry, Nick connects and empowers churches, networks, and church planting...
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