Perpetual Complication is a podcast about watches and collecting, hosted by Kathleen McGivney and Adam Craniotes, cofounders of RedBar, the largest international watch collecting community. They have a lot of knowledge and mostly grumpy opinions.
Kathleen and Adam sit down with Kelly Yoch, one of the most knowledgeable voices in horology, to talk about her path from Hamilton Jewelers in Princeton, NJ to the Patek Philippe Salon at Tiffany and now Altier Jewelers in Boca Raton, FL. Kelly shares how she got into watch and jewelry retail after realizing she could build a career around what she genuinely loves, and lays out her philosophy on what makes luxury retail actually work: training, human connection, training, and a culture that treats every visitor with respect.
Learn more at redbargroup.com.
Patek Philippe references discussed in this episode:
5711
5167
5168
5968
Aquanaut Chronograph
13 Oct 2026
Episode 4: Guest collector Charlie Rauh
Musician and writer Charlie Rauh joins Kathleen to talk about his journey in watches, building his collection starting from a random purchase to choosing new pieces based on heritage, craftsmanship, and personal milestones. From his first Longines Legend Diver to the Grand Seiko he bought while on tour in Japan and Korea, Charlie discusses his preference for manual-wind, time-only watches and closed case backs, and why the meaning a watch carries for its owner can matter more than its specs. Kathleen and Charlie also explore watch size and gender labels, the heirloom value of an engraved JLC Reverso, and the people and experiences that make collecting rewarding.
Learn more at redbargroup.com.
28 Sept 2026
Nobody's having lunch with Mr. Rolex
Kathleen and Adam revisit memories of their favorite manufacture visits (hint: all of them), from Audemars Piguet to Casio to independent watchmakers' ateliers. Contrary to the popular wisdom that you should never see how the sausage is made, a manufacture visit can bring a real, personal connection to a watch, though some might see it simply as an object. They discuss how scale and workflow differ from brand to brand and country to country. From a floor full of watchmakers assembling Royal Oaks, to an automated assembly line, to a centuries-old restoration workshop, to a clock tower that inspired a watch movement, Kathleen and Adam compare the wildly different ways brands build, finish, and protect their craft. Each brand has its own distinct imprint, but the common thread is the people, their expertise, and the pride they bring to the work. In our modern world, surrounded by time, watches aren't necessary—or are they? Learn more at redbargroup.com (http://redbargroup.com).
16 Sept 2026
Happy Brew-versary
Kathleen talks with longtime friend Ed Brill and Brew Watch Co. founder Jonathan Ferrer to trace their intersecting stories of collecting, independent watchmaking, and friendship as they near the twelfth anniversary of the first Brew watch. They look back on the RedBar meetups that helped shape Jonathan's path to founding Brew, Ed's journey from casual watch buyer to committed collector to unofficial Brew brand ambassador, and the circumstances that connect the three of them, exploring why distinctive design, personal stories, and genuine hospitality matter so much in the world of independent watches. They also talk about the expanding landscape of watch fairs and collector-driven events, and why these gatherings continue to grow.
Learn more at redbargroup.com.
31 Aug 2026
Are we part of the problem?
In our premiere episode, Adam and Kathleen explore the phenomenon of hype culture as it insinuates itself into the watch industry. Recapping and analyzing recent launches, looking at the role of social media, and floating potential solutions to manage hype responsibly (hello, Petty Hater Division!). Plus, examining how scarcity, influencer marketing, and secondary markets affect consumers' behavior and brands' reputations (not to mention push us toward the coming apocalypse).
Check out our links:
http://instagram.com/redbarcrew
https://www.youtube.com/@redbargroup
https://www.redbargroup.com
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