Host Phil Surkis experiences midwest culture shock, after (sight unseen) moving to Madison Wisconsin. All he knows are the coasts. He gets quiet if you say things like "Scratch offs" or "Cheese Curds". Every week, Phil will talk to a midwesterner and try to learn something about the these midwestern ways beyond the movie Fargo.
It's hard to believe this podcast is even getting made, because Phil is somewhere out there, stuck in an eternal midwest goodbye.
Turkeys and Trumpets: In the Middle with Colleen Hayes
Holiday vibes abound on Philly in the Middle, as Phil Surkis sits down with Colleen Hayes, the City of Madison’s Pedestrian & Bicycle Outreach Specialist and unofficial mayor of the east side.
Colleen takes us from her family’s Al Capone connections in Cicero, Illinois, to the Near East Side of Madison, where she’s been building community since 1991. She talks bikes-in-winter, why kids should ride the bus free year-round 🚌, and how surviving cancer deepened her gratitude for the people and institutions right in her backyard 💛.
There’s also the origin story you didn’t know you needed involving a turkey costume and a trumpet.
Also, this episode may or may not contain Phil's latest banger, “Curd Crawl”.
Take one part civic nerdy-ness, and one part holiday cheer, and press play. You’re welcome!
19 Oct 2025
Three C’s and a Fish Fry: In the Middle with Howard Hayes
In this episode of Philly in the Middle, host Phil Surkis sits down with Howard Hayes, Assistant Director of Youth and Community Development at Madison’s Goodman Community Center.
Howard shares how a friend’s intuition changed his life: leading him from working behind the bar to a lifelong calling working with kids and building community. He reflects on Madison’s east side culture, the “three C’s” that guide his work, and why leading with love might be the most radical thing we can do.
The setting IS Wisconsin, so there’s also talk of meat raffles, fish fries, and the mystery of “Midwest Nice.” If you like heartfelt and funny, with a dollop of community spirit, press play.
11 Sept 2025
juj e. lepe: The Poetry of Place and Belonging
In this episode of Philly in the Middle, host Phil Surkis sits down with poet and educator juj e. lepe to talk about identity, adaptation, and how place seeps into poetry and daily life
juj shares stories of being a “banana slug for life” at UC Santa Cruz 🐌, the culture shock of Midwest winters, and why directness can sometimes read as “aggressive” in a land of Midwest Nice. They talk about lakes with memory and the poetry of the Driftless landscape.
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25 Aug 2025
Cha Yang: Midwest Truths & Family Roots
In this episode of Philly in the Middle, host Phil Surkis (https://www.philsurkis.com/) meets Cha Yang, Community Experience Manager at Madison’s Goodman Community Center (https://www.goodmancenter.org/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=9324202057&gbraid=0AAAAACgJQMTrCg49XKN9XyQTVlFvY7HKd&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8KrFBhDUARIsAMvIApbjhx7WtWTWxRUHNA_oH5qcH3_lSK7ADVOtuQ1viyDJZD0cU0o82sYaAqtBEALw_wcB).
Cha shares his incredible journey—from being born in a refugee camp in Thailand after his family fled Laos, to growing up on Madison’s east side, to now giving back at the same community center that once shaped his childhood. Plus, perhaps a hot foodie take, or two. Grab some cheese curds and press play!
4 Aug 2025
Rachael Lee: Bet, Ope, and Other Life Lessons
In this episode of Philly in the Middle, I sit down with Rachael Lee, a Middleton-by-way-of-Houston local who’s called the Madison area home for over a decade—the longest she’s lived anywhere. We talk about her musical journey from violin prodigy to piano therapy, what it means to truly stay put after years of moving, and how to navigate Madison’s special brand of weird. It’s a conversation about music, belonging, and building a “perfect Wisconsin day,” one waltz at a time.
14 Jul 2025
Aaron Jossart: Madison's Fishin' Musician
Phil chats with accordionist, high school language teacher, and lifelong Wisconsinite Aaron Jossart. From growing up among 35 cousins in Racine to leading alt-country bands and teaching French and Spanish at East High, Aaron embodies the quirky, earnest charm of Madison’s east side. They talk Root Rivers and Clam Lakes, what Madison gets right (and wrong), and the mystery of why Aaron loves fishing—despite the blood and struggle.
3 Jul 2025
Libby Tucci: Leading Madtown to the Right Side of History
Phil follows through and talks to Libby Tucci — A Madison eastsider, northside fan, and justice nerd — for a talk about Madison’s weirdness, the myth of its progressiveness, and why winter is actually a good thing. Come for the cicadas, stay for the radical honesty about race, equity, and why Madison needs to drop its east-west beefs.
16 Jun 2025
Bianca Martin: Madtown's Media Maven
Host Phil Surkis is joined by Bianca Martin, the host of the City Cast Madison podcast. Bianca shares about her Baraboo, Wisconsin roots, her Kiwi aspirations, and what it's like to stand out in the middle.
Listen to Bianca on City Cast Madison (https://megaphone.link/CC4588756964)
Learn about Philly's other shows (https://www.philsurkis.com/)
2 Jun 2025
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