The Co-Trust Project with Dr Riya Patel and Dr Ash Routen
Dr. Riya Patel and Dr. Ash Routen explore the Co-Trust Project, revealing the roots of trust issues in health services and introducing their innovative Co-Trust toolkit.
3 Sept 2026TRANSCRIPT
Jacquie Burke, Executive Director Children and Education for Hackney
Sandra Husbands interviews Jacquie Burke on embedding anti-racism in Hackney's children's services, offering vital lessons for public health and systemic change.
23 Jul 2026TRANSCRIPT
The Romanian Health Equity Forum (RoHEF)
PhD Researcher Adina Maglan, Commissioner Madalina Pop, and Midwife Emma Raja Krishnen discuss the new Romanian Health Equity Forum (RoHEF) in this interview.
12 Jun 2026TRANSCRIPT
Professor Kevin Fenton discusses a career of authentic leadership in Public Health
In this episode Dr Sandra Husbands, Director of Public Health of City and Hackney, interviews Professor Kevin Fenton (CBE) about his three decade career in public health.
The discussion covers his globe-trotting journey, his rise to public prominence during the COVID pandemic and his brand of authentic leadership.
5 May 2026TRANSCRIPT
New documentary examines Black Women and Breast Cancer
In this episode we speak to Victoria Ekanoye and David Ayeni, the host and the director of new documentary Shades of Survival, about the topic of black women and breast cancer.
9 Mar 2026TRANSCRIPT
Examining the Health of London’s Turkish and Kurdish communities
Nurullah Turan and Taylan Sahbaz both came to the UK as immigrants from Turkey in the early 90s, and have been working to support their communities for most of their adult lives. In this episode we discuss the unique history and challenges of this relatively recent migrant community.
13 Jan 2026TRANSCRIPT
Jason Strelitz discusses his new book about the COVID pandemic
In this episode Adeola Agbebiyi talks to Jason Stretlitz about his new book Same Storm, Different Boats, which details battling the COVID pandemic during his time as the Director of Public Health for the London Borough of Newham.
11 Nov 2025
Marc Thompson discusses his fight against the stigma of HIV in the Black Community.
In this episode Lee Pinkerton interviews Marc Thompson, lead commissioner for the London HIV Prevention Program. As well as sharing findings from their latest report, Marc discusses the double stigma of being a Black gay man with HIV, and what we can learn from high profile cases like those of Magic Johnson and Fela Kuti.
The London HIV Prevention Programme (LHPP) is a city-wide initiative commissioned by the Association of Directors of Public Health London (ADPL) and delivered on behalf of all London boroughs.
Their recent Black Heritage Needs Assessment is a vital piece of work commissioned as part of the wider LHPP programme and is a key step in their commitment to tackling health inequalities and improving HIV prevention for Black communities across London.
You can access their report here (https://doitlondon.org/about/black-heritage-communities-hiv-prevention-report/)
13 Oct 2025TRANSCRIPT
Professor Frank Chinegwundoh discusses prostate cancer in Black men
Professor Chinegwundoh’s shares his early career challenges, as well as highlighting his ground-breaking research on prostate cancer disparities in Black men, linking genetic and environmental factors.
Perhaps most importantly he discusses how lifestyle, diet and sexual activity can influence a man’s prostate cancer risk.
25 Sept 2025TRANSCRIPT
Dr Sharmin Shajahan discusses health disparities in the Bangladeshi Community
Dr. Sharmin Shajahan shares her extensive experience in public health, including her early work in Tower Hamlets and her PhD research on access to health services for Bangladeshi cardiac patients.
Dr. Shajahan also discusses her current roles as Deputy Director at Voice for Change England, and co-chair of the London Bangladeshi Health Partnership, addressing health disparities like diabetes and cancer screening, and emphasises the need for innovative community engagement approaches.
link to the Voice For Change website https://www.voice4change-england.org/
link to the Horizons Health Programme https://www.voice4change-england.org/horizons-london-programme
Link to the Bangladeshi Health Partnership website https://www.banglaha.org.uk/lbhp
6 Aug 2025TRANSCRIPT
Tracey Bignall & Jabeer Butt discuss the IHE report recommendations
In this episode guests Jabeer Butt, Chief Executive of the Race Equality Foundation, and Tracy Bignall highlight the Race Equality Foundation's work, as it pertains to the Institute of Health Equity (IHE) recommendations on health inequalities.
The guests discuss the co-production of detailed recommendations that aim to be actionable and impactful in reducing racial health disparities in London. The conversation covers how structural factors impact health, and the importance of a wide range of interventions across different sectors.
The episode also delves into the Foundation's approach to addressing systemic racism through both behavior and systems change. They express concerns about trust in public systems and emphasize the importance of consistent engagement and transparency.
25 Jun 2025TRANSCRIPT
Episode 6 - Dr. Amanda Simon and Tracy Bignell
Host Adeola Agbebiyi interviews Dr. Amanda Simon and Tracy Bignell about the Race Equity Maturity Index (REMI), a self-assessment tool that guides public health organizations toward achieving lasting race equity through its six-stage framework.
13 May 2025TRANSCRIPT
episode 5 - Dr. John Licorish
In the latest installment of our podcast, we delve into a critical discussion surrounding health equity and community outreach with two distinguished public health leaders. Dr. John Licorish, a Public Health Consultant in Brent, joins forces with Dr. Adeola Agbebiyi, the Assistant Director of Public Health in Newham, to unpack the complexities of identifying and engaging communities often labeled as ‘hard to reach’ who are more accurately described as 'underserved'.
The Newham Health Equity Programme (NHEP) Health Equity Toolkit has been built to support service commissioners, designers and providers to analyse how equitable a service is.
At the launch, the team from Newham introduced their ‘four steps to improving equity’ model, which helps individuals, teams, and organisations through the processes needed to understand health inequalities and implement effective service improvements.
This model combines the activity and thinking from other change frameworks, including quality improvement methods used by the NHS, but makes this even easier to understand and follow.
If you’d like to learn more about the Does It Look Like Newham (DILLN) and ART Framework tools, more details can be found on their website at https://www.wellnewham.org.uk/advice/newham-health-equity-toolkit (https://www.wellnewham.org.uk/advice/newham-health-equity-toolkit)
17 Feb 2025TRANSCRIPT
episode 4 - Dr. Adeola Agbebiyi
In this episode, Dr. Sandra Husbands, Director of Public Health for the City of London and Hackney, hosts Dr. Adeola Agbebiyi, Assistant Director of Public Health in Newham, as they discuss Dr. Adeola's diverse career journey from film censorship to public health.
They delve into her work on Newham Health Equity Programme, tackling structural racism, and implementing the ART framework to reduce healthcare disparities.
Dr. Adeola emphasizes the importance of culturally competent public health services, community engagement, and innovative approaches to improve health outcomes for marginalized populations.
The conversation also explores behavior change frameworks and how implementation science can bridge the gap between national health policies and local health needs, ultimately leading to more equitable and effective health interventions.
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
02:18 Career Journey and Public Health
04:34 Public Health and Behavioral Science
10:12 Newham Health Equity Programme
16:17 Challenges in Public Health Services
20:28 ART Framework and Service Design
25:58 Diabetes Remission and Public Health Messaging
39:42 ADPH London Public Health Network
46:46 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
7 Jan 2025TRANSCRIPT
Episode 3 - Dr Sandra Husbands interviews Dr Will Maymaris
In this episode Dr Sandra Husbands, Director of Public Health of City and Hackney, interviews Dr. Will Maymaris, Director of Public Health in Haringey. The discussion covers Dr. Maymaris's journey into public health, his experiences and challenges in leadership, Public Health's response to the COVID-19 pandemic, efforts in anti-racism and tackling inequality, and the specifics of his cardiovascular disease prevention work in North Central London.
20 Nov 2024TRANSCRIPT
episode 2 - Treating the Eastern European Community
Lee Pinkerton discusses health inequalities faced by Eastern European communities in the UK with Tetiana Teslenko, Galina Nguekam, and Diana Divajeva, highlighting the importance of culturally sensitive outreach and data-driven decision-making.
14 Oct 2024TRANSCRIPT
Episode 1: Professor Winston Morgan
An interview with Professor Winston Morgan, Professor of Toxicology, Equity and Inclusive Practice at the University of East London.
Confronting Racism: Health Inequities, Sickle Cell Challenges, and Academic Gatekeeping
In this compelling episode of the Public Health Tackling Racism and Inequality Program podcast, host Lee Pinkerton engages with Professor Winston Morgan from the University of East London. They delve into the impacts of racism on public health and academic careers, discussing the ADPH London position statement and exploring strategies to combat systemic barriers.
The conversation touches on the psychological and physiological effects of racism, such as chronic stress contributing to premature aging and disease vulnerability. Highlighting new advancements, the episode also covers promising gene therapy for sickle cell disease and addresses the biases and training gaps in healthcare that affect treatment quality. Throughout, the importance of increasing diversity among healthcare professionals and understanding the broader societal factors influencing health disparities are emphasized.
00:00 Introduction to the Public Health Tackling Racism and Inequality Program
00:33 Themes for Action Development
01:01 Podcast Series Overview
01:43 Guest Introduction: Professor Winston Morgan
02:32 Professor Morgan's Academic Journey
03:06 Challenges in Academia
08:47 Supporting Students and Overcoming Barriers
11:47 Research on Racism and Public Health
15:44 The Impact of Discrimination on Health
17:12 Understanding the John Henryism Effect
18:34 Exploring Sickle Cell Research
20:43 Gene Therapy for Sickle Cell
24:04 Challenges in Sickle Cell Treatment
28:51 Genetic Diversity and Health Inequalities
31:29 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
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The Co-Trust Project with Dr Riya Patel and Dr Ash Routen
Published 12 Oct 2026 · Transcript excerpt
[…] So we searched the literature from 1947 to the summer of 2025, and we found over 50 cases where there were issues relating to the recruitment or consent practices. So we had a nice global picture. I don't know if that was occurring in most of the cases related to issues regarding consent, whether that was incomplete consent, written informed consent, information on perhaps risk or benefits being withheld from participants. Some of the information in consent forms may have been misleading. Other issues were things like withholding treatment. treatment would only be given in certain studies if they were consenting to take part of the new research. […]
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