POD Strangely Warmed is a United Methodist Podcast designed to engage in frank, direct and (as often as possible) entertaining conversations about what's going on in and around the United Methodist Connection.
Ep. 151 "When Christians Disagree: Holding Convictions Without Losing Connection" Rev. Dr. O. Wesley Allen Jr. and David Taylor
Christians will not always agree, but disagreement does not have to end in division. Rev. Dr. O. Wesley Allen Jr. and David Taylor join Rev. Daniel Hawkins to consider how intentional dialogue can help us listen across our differences, approach difficult conversations with humility and hold our convictions without losing connection.
Following an evening engagement with Dr. Allen at Trietsch Memorial United Methodist Church, this conversation looks beyond the pressure to win an argument and asks what it means to remain curious, value relationships and make room for voices different from our own.
Whether the disagreement involves politics, theology, church life or a conversation around the family table, this episode invites Christians to practice a way of speaking and listening rooted in love of God and neighbor.
LEARN MORE about Rev. Dr. O. Wesley Allen Jr.:
https://www.smu.edu/perkins/facultyacademics/facultylistinga-z/allen
Perkins Center for Preaching Excellence:
https://pcpe.smu.edu/
Perkins Center for Preaching Excellence on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/@smuperkinscenterforpreachi7022
The Homiletic of All Believers:
https://www.wjkbooks.com/bookproduct/0664228607-the-homiletic-of-all-believers/
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SCRIPTURE REFERENCES
1 Corinthians 12:12–27 | One Body with Many Members
Paul describes the church as one body made up of many members, each valued and needed.
Read in the NRSVue:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%2012%3A12-27&version=NRSVUE (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%2012%3A12-27&version=NRSVUE)
1 Corinthians 13:12
"For now we see only a reflection, as in a mirror, but then we will see face to face. Now I know only in part; then I will know fully, even as I have been fully known."
Read in the NRSVue:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%2013%3A12&version=NRSVUE
1 Corinthians 8:1–13 | Food Offered to Idols
Paul considers how knowledge, freedom and being right should remain guided by love and concern for others.
Read in the NRSVue:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%208%3A1-13&version=NRSVUE
Matthew 22:39
"And a second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'"
Read in the NRSVue:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2022%3A39&version=NRSVUE
Matthew 7:12 | The Golden Rule
"In everything do to others as you would have them do to you, for this is the Law and the Prophets."
Read in the NRSVue:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207%3A12&version=NRSVUE
29 Sept 2026
Ep 150: "A Step Toward Reclaiming Justice" featuring Rev. Debra Crumpton and Rev. Julie Harding
This week, POD Strangely Warmed comes to you from Cedarbrake Retreat Center, where clergy from across the Horizon Texas Conference gathered for the Do Justice Retreat. The three-day gathering created space for worship, spiritual formation, honest conversation and discerning how the church can faithfully pursue justice together.
Kristin Warthen is joined by Rev. Debra Crumpton and Rev. Julie Harding for a conversation about the connection between justice and discipleship. They discuss the courage to speak up, the importance of seeing every person as made in the image of God and the spiritual practices that help keep justice work from becoming isolating or exhausting.
If you care about justice but do not know where to begin, this episode offers a practical and hopeful reminder: start by listening for God, take the next faithful step and do not do it alone.
Book mentioned in this episode:
Tarry Awhile: Wisdom from Black Spirituality for People of Faith by Dr. Selina Stone (https://thebigchurchread.co.uk/tarry-awhile/)
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22 Sept 2026
Ep 149: "Faith Behind the Fandom: A Family's Love for the Dallas Cowboys" with Maye and Isaac Saenz
For Maye and Isaac Saenz, cheering for the Dallas Cowboys has always been about more than football. It is a family tradition rooted in shared Sundays, memorable road trips and the joy of experiencing the game together. In this episode of POD Strangely Warmed, they share how Cowboys fandom became woven into their family's story.
Maye reflects on raising her children with Bishop Ruben Saenz Jr. and keeping Christian faith at the center of their home. Isaac shares how those family traditions shaped his life and his journey into professional sports media. Together, they explore how faith, family and football can bring people together, carry us through disappointment and remind us that we belong to something bigger than ourselves.
Follow Isaac Saenz's work
https://www.facebook.com/footballforeverhq/
https://www.instagram.com/footballforever
https://x.com/fballforeverhq
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