Power of Ten with Andy Polaine

About Power of Ten with Andy Polaine

In the Power of Ten podcast, Andy Polaine talks to guests from a broad range of disciplines about the intersection of design, technology, psychology, organisations, culture and society. The show looks at how design operates at many levels and in many forms, from thoughtful detail through organisational transformation to the changes in society and the world.

Publisher

Power of Ten with Andy Polaine

Category

arts · business · education

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

25 Jul 2020

Latest episode

8 Jul 2026

Latest episodes

7 of 56 episodes have a transcript.

1. 

   8 Jul 2026TRANSCRIPT

   S5 Ep5: Lisa Bennett – Savor The World

   Host Andy Polaine interviews journalist and author Lisa Bennett about finding agency and savoring the world amidst overwhelming global challenges.

2. 

   9 Jun 2026TRANSCRIPT

   S5 Ep4: Josh Clark & Veronika Kindred - Sentient Design

   Host Andy Polaine interviews Josh Clark and Veronika Kindred about designing intelligent AI interfaces and the ethical responsibilities of designers in shaping future technology.

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   4 May 2026TRANSCRIPT

   S5 Ep3: Martin Dowson – Service Design & Lobsters

   My guest in this episode is Martin Dowson, a design and transformation leader who’s passionate about elevating the role of design as a strategic force for business growth. With over two decades of experience across Financial Services, Telcos, Media, and more. He’s built and led design teams, established Centres of Excellence, and guided organisations through complex transformations that align design with commercial outcomes. Martin went from reading our service design book (https://rosenfeldmedia.com/books/service-design-second-edition/) hoping to solve a logistics problem (you couldn’t order lobsters on a Wednesday at Sainsbury’s) to spending six years leading design strategy at Lloyd's Banking Group. We talk about what happens when consultants go in-house, why experienced internal voices often get heard less than external ones saying the same thing, and whether AI has the same fundamental scaling problem as the car. Timestamps 00:00 Intro — Martin's background across financial services, telecoms and media 01:00 How Martin and Andy first met at RBS in 2015, and reading Service Design to solve a lobster logistics problem at Sainsbury's 04:30 Going in-house after consulting — why your voice gets heard less the moment you cross the threshold 07:30 The question organisations never ask: why isn't this happening spontaneously already? 14:00 What it actually takes to embed design capability in a large organisation versus leaving behind blueprints and concepts 28:00 Measuring design's contribution to business outcomes — the gap between outputs and impact 45:00 Design leadership in the AI era — what changes and what doesn't 55:00 Why organisations mistake motion for progress, and how incentive structures block transformation 01:05:50 AI has the same fundamental problem as the car — it doesn't scale cleanly, and success makes the resource problem worse not better 01:10:30 The one small thing with outsized impact: our definition of success in education Show Links Martin - LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/designled (https://linkedin.com/in/designled) - Web: https://liminaldesignoffice.com (https://liminaldesignoffice.com) - Podcast https://beingliminal.com (https://beingliminal.com) Andy - Website: https://www.polaine.com (https://www.polaine.com/) - Newsletter: https://pln.me/nws (https://pln.me/nws) - Podcast: https://pln.me/p10 (https://pln.me/p10) - Design Leadership Coaching: https://polaine.com/coaching (https://polaine.com/coaching) - Courses: https://courses.polaine.com (https://courses.polaine.com/) - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/apolaine/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/apolaine/) - Bluesky: https://andypolaine.bsky.social (https://andypolaine.bsky.social/) - YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@apolaine (https://www.youtube.com/@apolaine)

Inside a recent episode

S5 Ep5: Lisa Bennett – Savor The World

Published 8 Jul 2026 · Transcript excerpt

[…] We're just simply not. And so there's a shutting down that tends to happen. And I don't think that that's just about, you know, the practical decisions that people make, like, I cannot take in this much news, right? That's often a very wise action. That kind of shutting down to set your own boundaries. But the shutting down that I think is more concerning is a shutting down to a sense of possibility, you know, when we feel daunted. It becomes much more difficult to see possibility and to see how we can make a difference in our small circle. You know, none of us are going to solve the great big problems on our own. […]

Who has been a guest on Power of Ten with Andy Polaine

Names identified in recent episode analyses. Showing up to five guests.

• Lisa Bennett
• Josh Clark
• Veronika Kindred

Reach and audience

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YouTube views

38,634

Score snapshot 15 Sept 2025

Apple Podcasts (US)

5.0 / 5

3 ratings

Spotify

4.7 / 5

13 ratings

Podcast Authority Score: 40 / 100

A composite of feed quality, social presence, YouTube performance and engagement. Read the methodology.

Quality

16

Social presence

0

YouTube

76

Engagement

85

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