Welcome to the Powerplay Podcast, hosted by Sally Mousa, where we dive into the stories of those who are shaping culture, ideas and industries. We talk to everyone from CEOs to celebrities to thought leaders to find out what made them who they are, and the impact that they’re making with every episode. Only on Forbes Middle East.
Win Any Negotiation: FBI Secrets to Getting What You Want with Chris Voss on Power Play
“Power negotiations are based on power relationships, and you can do that with tactical empathy.”
What if the secret to getting everything you want in life—deals, respect, outcomes—wasn’t about being louder or tougher, but smarter?
In this episode of Power Play, Sally Mousa sits down with Chris Voss, the legendary former FBI hostage negotiator and bestselling author of Never Split the Difference, to break down the psychology of real-world persuasion.
From high-stakes standoffs to everyday conversations, Chris reveals the exact tools that elite negotiators use to win—without aggression, manipulation, or compromise.
You’ll learn:
• The one skill that instantly makes you more persuasive
• Why listening is the most underrated power move in any room
• How to defuse any situation and win trust instantly
• How to negotiate anything—from salary raises to free upgrades
• What most people get dead wrong about influence
Whether you’re a CEO, a parent, or looking to close that deal —this episode will change the way you communicate forever.
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8 Jul 2025
From Pain to Power: How Terry Crews Reinvented Himself from the Ground Up
He’s more than a Hollywood icon. More than an NFL athlete. In this episode of Power Play, Terry Crews strips away the facade and reveals the raw truth about masculinity, honesty, love, and legacy.
From surviving a turbulent childhood to becoming a global force for change, Terry opens up about:
Why success is “the warmest place to hide”
The moment that nearly ended his marriage—and saved his life
The daily practice that helped him manifest his future
What power really means (it's not what you think)
Why he really thinks of Dubai
This is Terry Crews like you’ve never seen him before—unfiltered, deeply human, and fearlessly honest.
Speaking to Sally Mousa before going on stage for the Binghatti Acquarise launch event in Dubai.
Only on Power Play on Forbes Middle East.
23 May 2025
Kevin O’Leary: Why He’s Betting on the UAE and Sounds the Alarm on AI, Energy & the Global Economy
Kevin O'Leary shares with Sally Mousa his investment strategies in the UAE, expresses concerns about the AI race, and reveals his insights on successful leadership in this interview.
24 Feb 2025
Turning Darkness into Beauty – Rami Kadi on the Power of Art, Fashion, and Resilience on Power Play
Today on Power Play, we sit down with a visionary who’s not just redefining fashion but expanding its very essence into the world of art—Rami Kadi. Known for his groundbreaking couture, Rami has now taken his creative journey even further, transforming his darkest moments into an extraordinary new art collection. Through colour, texture, and emotion, he has channelled personal struggle into visually stunning, joy-filled masterpieces.
In this conversation with Sally Mousa, Kadi reveals how his artistic evolution was born from adversity, what fuels his success, the qualities he seeks in his team, and where he’s taking fashion—and now, art—next. Don’t miss this inspiring deep dive into reinvention, resilience, and creativity.
27 Jan 2025
Tell Yourself A Better Lie To Transform Your Life: Therapist Marisa Peer on Power Play
If you’ve struggled with making lasting changes in your life, this is the episode for you. World-renowned therapist and author Marisa Peer says telling yourself a better lie is the secret to transforming your life. For the last 30 years, Marisa Peer has worked with tens of thousands of people, from major celebrities to top CEOs, to re-write the stories they tell themselves to powerful effect. Whether it’s losing weight, giving up addiction, living a more abundant life, healing from illness, or achieving your full potential, Marisa believes that each of us is capable of tremendous impact, one thought at a time.
29 Aug 2024
I Never Accept No! How Dr Suaad Al Shamsi Defied the Impossible and Made History on Power Play
When everything is stacked against, how do you still come out on top?
As the UAE’s first female aircraft engineer, Dr Suaad Al Shamsi has made a career out of proving people wrong, fighting not only for her dreams but also for the right of girls and women to excel in male-dominated industries.
In this special episode of Power Play celebrating Emirati Women’s Day, Dr Al Shamsi shares:
· the phone call from HH Sheikh Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum that changed her life,
· Why she never accepts no for an answer
· her secrets to gaining unshakable confidence
· Her near-death experience
· Her dramatic weight loss (at her heaviest she reached 1160kg) and what she learned from the experience
· Why she wrote the book “How to Kill Your Man Without Evidence”
and so much more.
Exclusively on Power Play with Sally Mousa on Forbes Middle East
19 Aug 2024
Breaking all the Rules to Become the Best in the Middle East: Mohamad Orfali on Power Play
How did failure lead Mohamad Orfali to becoming a Michelin-starred chef? In this episode of Power Play, Mohamad opens up about how he dared to be exactly who he wanted to be, and how that allowed him and his brothers to create the best restaurant in the Middle East, Orfali Bros.
Mohamad tells us how he and his brothers broke all the rules to become the best, the moments that nearly made him give up in the face of constant rejection, the amazing advice that kept him going, why his TV career made him more innovative, the key to his success and so much more.
Exclusively on Power Play with Sally Mousa
CHAPTERS:
00 Introduction
2:25 How Orfali Bros broke the rules to get their Michelin star
6:00 How Mohamad grew up hating food to becoming a world-class chef
7:40 How Mohamad accidently became a chef after failing school
11:45 How Mohamad discovered his life-long passion
13:36 How mastering the food of Aleppo made Mohamad a better chef
16:17 Why the ‘Nafas’ or energy you put into your work makes all the difference
18:17 Why it’s hard to innovate when it comes to Arab food
22:55 Creating dishes that are both familiar and completely unique
24:30 Drawing people in with the familiar while opening them up to innovation
27:47 How Orfali bros designed a menu inspired by Dubai
29:00 Why Dubai was the perfect place to launch an innovative concept
32:35 Why storytelling is the essence of creativity and innovation
34:40 The pressure of attaining and keeping the Michelin star
38:30 How Orfali Bros breaks the rules with their team
39:53 The ingredients of creativity
40:19 Why Mohamad came to Dubai in the first place
42:00 Hardest moments for Mohamad in this journey and what kept him going
45:38 Mohamad’s reaction to being named best restaurant in the Middle East by World’s 50 Best
50:15 The secret to Orfali Bros success
50:35 How Mohamad’s TV presenting made him a more innovative chef
52:50 How Mohamad was inspired by the best chefs in the world
56:40 Mohamad’s next dream: both personal and professional
58:35 Advice on daring to be yourself in the face of rejection
29 Jul 2024
How This One Belief Made Him The Most Expensive Living Artist | Sacha Jafri on Power Play
How This One Belief Made Him The Most Expensive Living Artist | Sacha Jafri on Power Play Why does the world's most expensive artist say no to 99% of those who want to buy his art? Meet Sacha Jafri, one of the world's most celebrated and most valuable living artists. Known for creating the world's largest painting on canvas, his record-breaking work is coveted by royalty and A-list celebrities alike, including Barack Obama, Bill Gates, and Sir Richard Branson, among many others. As he becomes the youngest artist to celebrate his 25-year retrospective, Sally Mousa explores what drives him, and the one belief that drives his enormous success. He talks about how art changed his life, what the biggest artists get wrong, the most unforgettable moment in his career, why AI is not art, why 99% of NFTs will lose their value, where we should be focused in the future, and so much more.
12 Jul 2024
The Secret To Starting A Million-Dollar Business Without A Product | Daniel Priestley on Power Play
How do the world’s biggest entrepreneurs, like Elon Musk and Richard Branson, sell products that don’t even exist?
Daniel Priestley is the founder of multiple seven and eight-figure ventures, and he believes that anyone can do the same.
Daniel reveals:
Why there’s no such thing as a great idea and what you need instead to be successful
Why you need to be a Key Person of Influence and not just an influencer
The CAOS system for a successful business
Why passion is not what you think it is How billionaires start businesses without a product
How you can harness the power of AI instead of being over-run by it
Only on Power Play with Sally Mousa on Forbes Middle East.
28 Jun 2024
“Most people would have just quit!” Jason Derulo on Being Overlooked by the Music Industry
“I had sold 250 million records, and I couldn’t believe the response that I was getting when I was a free agent.”
Music superstar Jason Derulo opens up about one of the darkest periods of his life, why he almost quit, being overlooked by the music industry despite global success, the secret to his meteoric rise, his shift in focus for 2025, finding the real meaning of love and so much more.
Only on Power Play with Sally Mousa on Forbes Middle East.
If you enjoyed hearing about the music industry from top artists, check out the conversation with Grammy-winning producer and rapper Swizz Beatz
14 Jun 2024
Grammy-winner Swizz Beatz on camel racing, staying ahead, and why he loves to do what others think is crazy, on Power Play
“I love to challenge myself to do things that people think are crazy” – Swizz Beatz Grammy-winning producer, rapper, and camel racing team owner are not three titles that would normally go together, but in the case of Swizz Beatz – a man used to breaking boundaries and making history – it’s simply a natural progression. Check out his Power Play interview with Sally Mousa to see how he not only stays at the top after more than 25 years in the music business, why he wants to now dominate in camel racing, and how he continues to defy all expectations with every new venture.
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