Principle of Charity

About Principle of Charity

Are you ready to burst your filter bubble? To hit pause on righteous anger? Principle of Charity injects curiosity and generosity back into difficult conversations, bringing together two expert guests with opposing views on big social issues. But here’s the twist: as well as passionately advocating their own views, each guest is challenged to present the best, most generous version of the other’s argument. This unique format comes from an ancient idea - the principle of charity - which tells us to seek the truth, not to win the fight; to truly understand the other before we instinctively reject them. The podcast is hosted by Emile Sherman and Lloyd Vogelman. Emile is an Academy and Emmy Award-winning film & TV producer who’s obsessively curious about ideas and holds onto the naïve belief that a generous conversion is still the best way to get to the truth. Lloyd has a doctorate in psychology, spent years as a leader in the fight against apartheid before building reconciliation in South Africa, and describes himself as a recovering extremist who’s passionate about the potential to change our minds. @PofCharity on Twitter, @PrincipleofCharity on Facebook and @PrincipleofCharityPodcast on Instagram. You can find Emile at: @EmileSherman on Twitter, @EmileSherman on Linkedin, You can find Lloyd at: @Lloydvogelman on Linkedin ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Producers: Jonah Primo - Find at Jonahprimo.com or @Jonahprimo on Instagram Bronwen Reid Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy (https://acast.com/privacy) for more information.

Publisher

Emile Sherman, Lloyd Vogelman

Category

science · society & culture · society & culture

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

9 Jun 2021

Latest episode

28 Apr 2025

Latest episodes

3 of 77 episodes have a transcript.

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   28 Apr 2025TRANSCRIPT

   Does Self Reflection Make Us More Miserable? Pt.2 On the Couch

   Podcast host Jonah Primo discusses the Principle of Charity with Lloyd Vogelman, exploring its personal implications and revealing insights from his experience in mindfulness, meditation, and philosophy in this interview.

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   21 Apr 2025TRANSCRIPT

   Spotlight with Jonah Primo: Does Self Reflection Make Us More Miserable?

   Jonah Primo discusses whether self-reflection leads to increased unhappiness in this interview episode.

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   31 Mar 2025TRANSCRIPT

   Should We Aim to Be Happy? Pt.2 On the Couch

   Sleep expert Dr. Rubin Naiman and positive leadership expert Sue Langley join host Lloyd Vogelman to explore the personal implications of the Principle of Charity in an interview.

Inside a recent episode

Does Self Reflection Make Us More Miserable? Pt.2 On the Couch

Published 28 Apr 2025 · Transcript excerpt

[…] It's not necessarily about becoming indifferent it's not about avoiding difficult conversations it's about having those conversations without additional suffering. I think you can find peace and still be in difficult situations and in fact I mean if you think about someone like Sam Harris who really is taking on the most extreme topics and he's willing to give his opinion that often alienates both the left and the right and he's willing to just follow his own values no matter what anyone thinks. From working with him what I realized that he is fully able to have a difficult conversation be told he's stupid be told he's evil and then go hang out with his family and have a nice dinner and go for a hike and so he is literally living that crossroad right like he is able to have the difficult conversations it's different it is different to being a hermit you know it is like it's not the same as being among but he's found a way to do both. […]

Who has been a guest on Principle of Charity

Names identified in recent episode analyses. Showing up to five guests.

• Jonah Primo
• Dr Rubin Naiman
• Sue Langley
• Rubin Naiman
• The Honorable Dr Andrew Leigh MP

Reach and audience

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Apple Podcasts (US)

4.9 / 5

16 ratings

Spotify

4.9 / 5

42 ratings

Podcast Authority Score: 44 / 100

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Quality

50

Social presence

0

YouTube

0

Engagement

92

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