Principled

About Principled

Interbeing is a podcast by MSB exploring what it means to lead, coach, and live in a deeply interconnected world. Hosted by Naomi Ward and Matt Hall, the show brings together educators, coaches, and thought leaders to reflect on the questions shaping international schools and beyond. In this new season we return to the heart of our work: coaching as a way of being. Together we explore how presence, curiosity, and care can shift not just our conversations, but our cultures. Inspired by Thich Nhat Hanh’s teaching on “interbeing,” we recognise that nothing exists in isolation — every choice, every relationship, every pause matters. Expect honest dialogue, stories from the field, and a commitment to learning in public. Not as answers, but as invitations to think differently about leadership, community, and the future of education. You can find out more about Futures-Focused Leadership Coaching for International Schools and MSB at www.makingstuffbetter.com (http://www.makingstuffbetter.com/)

Publisher

Hosted by Matt Hall and Naomi Ward. Produced by Emily Crosby and Kyra Kellawan.

Category

business · education · society & culture

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

18 Jan 2023

Latest episode

15 Jan 2026

Latest episodes

48 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   15 Jan 2026

   The Essence of Teamwork, with Nick Pope

   In this episode of the Interbeing podcast, Naomi and Kyra are joined by Nick Pope, a speaker, facilitator, and coach with extensive experience working with executive teams globally. Nick shares insights from his new book 'Are You a Team or a Meeting?' discussing themes of teamwork, prioritisation, and the significance of purpose in teams. He provides valuable advice on transforming meetings into effective teams, emphasising the importance of humanity, cultural diversity, and shared purpose. T...

2. 

   18 Dec 2025

   Exploring Interconnectedness: a mid-point pause

   At this mid-point in the season, we’re taking a short pause, and asking ourselves the question - What does it mean to be human? In this episode Naomi and Matt discuss the importance of understanding the human condition, the temporary nature of the term 'human,' and the ongoing quest for connection in an increasingly isolated world. They look back at some highlights of our conversations so far, and forward to more to come. The podcast will be back in January 2026. You can find us on Linked...

3. 

   4 Dec 2025

   Human Connection and Purpose in International Education, with Hayley Wilson

   In this episode of Interbeing we dive into a profound conversation with Hayley Wilson, Deputy Head of the Senior School at Kellett School in Hong Kong. We explore the role of coaching in fostering a sense of community and humanity within schools, emphasizing values of care, curiosity, and meaningful relationships. Hayley shares her personal and professional journey toward adopting a purpose-driven and coaching-focused ethos, highlighting the significant cultural shifts at Kellett School towar...

Reach and audience

Public platform figures. Ratings count people who left a rating, not total listeners.

Spotify

5.0 / 5

3 ratings

Podcast Authority Score: 18 / 100

A composite of feed quality, social presence, YouTube performance and engagement. Read the methodology.

Quality

35

Social presence

0

YouTube

0

Engagement

0

Contact Principled

Guest appearances

Does not typically book guests

Based on episode analysis; this does not confirm that the show is currently accepting guests.