Welcome to Proc n Roll, where nearly 70 years of combined procurement expertise come together. Join Natasha, the PRO CPO with experience at IBM, McKesson, Salesforce, and Nike; Zach, the procurement guru from London; and Conrad, the visionary innovator behind transformational procurement at Intel and Adobe. We dive into the latest trends shaping the procurement landscape while breaking down the essential building blocks for success. Whether you’re new to procurement or a seasoned expert, our discussions will inspire you and keep you grounded in real-world value.
Proc-N-Roll : Your guide to practical procurement!
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Welcome to Proc n Roll, where nearly 70 years of combined procurement expertise come together. Join Natasha, the PRO CPO with experience at IBM, McKesson, Salesforce, and Nike; Zach, the procurement guru from London; and Conrad, the visionary innovator behind transformational procurement at Intel and Adobe. We dive into the latest trends shaping the procurement landscape while breaking down the essential building blocks for success. Whether you’re new to procurement or a seasoned expert, our discussions will inspire you and keep you grounded in real-world value.
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July 17, 2026
Are You Leading, or Just Managing? The Crucial Difference
<p>Welcome to the kickoff of the Proc n Roll Leadership Series! Conrad, Natasha, and Zach pause the standard procurement talk to dive deep into the philosophy of leadership, the meaning of work, and the true purpose of life in an AI-driven future. </p><p><br></p><p>If you've ever wondered about the real difference between a manager and a leader, or why landing that massive promotion didn't make you as happy as you expected, this episode is for you. The crew tackles everything from what 4:00 AM meditation retreats teach us about human empathy, to why a bus driver might be a better leader than a CEO. </p><p><br></p><p>Grab a notebook—this conversation is packed with raw insights on building elite teams, seeking honest feedback, and finding lasting fulfillment.<strong>Timestamps: </strong></p><p><strong>(01:19) - Intro:</strong> Kicking off the brand-new Proc n Roll Leadership Series. </p><p><strong>(03:31) - Meditation & Leadership:</strong> What 4:00 AM retreats teach us about human struggle and the privilege of elevating others. </p><p><strong>(06:35) - Stepping Into the Dark:</strong> Zach explains why true leaders must walk into the unknown to show others what is possible. </p><p><strong>(09:47) - Level 5 Leadership:</strong> Conrad discusses building a "machine" that continues to run and thrive long after you leave. </p><p><strong>(20:45) - Leadership vs. Management:</strong> Why you can't just be a visionary cheerleader—great leaders must also be strong managers. </p><p><strong>(29:15) - The Bus Driver Test:</strong> Can anyone be a leader regardless of their title or authority? </p><p><strong>(34:23) - The Stakes of Bad Leadership:</strong> How toxic management directly jeopardizes the physical and mental health of employees. </p><p><strong>(40:32) - The Phil Jackson Approach:</strong> Natasha shares her experience building a legendary team at Nike and coaching individuals to "play together". </p><p><strong>(48:24) - AI & The Purpose of Life:</strong> If AI eventually removes the human need to work for survival, where will we find our meaning? </p><p><strong>(1:02:29) - The "7th Bite of Steak":</strong> A powerful metaphor on why money, titles, and material success fail to provide lasting fulfillment. </p><p><strong>(1:14:22) - The Feedback Junkie:</strong> How elite leaders actively seek out their blind spots without getting defensive. </p><p><strong>(1:17:42) - Final Thoughts:</strong> Conrad's ultimate advice: wherever you stand, lead and make things better.</p><p><strong>About Proc n Roll:</strong></p><p><br></p><p>Proc n Roll is your ultimate guide to practical procurement. Hosted by industry veterans, we navigate the complex intersections of procurement, supply chain, digital transformation, and the cutting-edge technology redefining the enterprise landscape. Join us as we interview top leaders, unpack hard-learned lessons, and explore how to build resilient, forward-thinking organizations. Don't forget to subscribe, like, and share!</p>
July 10, 2026
Why Today is the SLOWEST AI Will Ever Be
<p>Are you prepared for a future where your company rewrites its software every single night?In this episode of Proc n Roll, Zach and Natasha sit down with Sanjay Srivastava—former Chief Digital Officer at Genpact, serial entrepreneur, and founder of the Executive Technology Board—for a masterclass on enterprise AI. Sanjay unpacks why the current breakneck pace of AI development is actually the slowest it will ever be, and why companies must shift from episodic IT projects to a permanent state of continuous business adaptation.From the hidden "Day 2" costs of tokenomics to the rising stress levels of AI-enabled employees, this episode is packed with counterintuitive insights and practical frameworks for business leaders trying to stay ahead of the curve. Timestamps: (01:12) - Intro: Welcoming Sanjay Srivastava, tech visionary and author of the digitally Substack.(02:46) - The Pace of Change: Why the AI acceleration we see today is structurally set up to be the slowest it will ever be in the future.(07:43) - Transformation as a Permanent State: Moving away from episodic software updates to a culture of continuous adaptation. (10:59) - The 20x Performance Gap: Why employees with the exact same AI tools and training are yielding wildly different results.(12:33) - The AI Stress Paradox: How AI reduces chore work but increases employee stress due to constant context switching.(17:59) - The End of Code: Why the marginal cost of software is dropping to zero, making domain knowledge your ultimate durable advantage.(23:13) - Tokenomics & Day 2 Costs: Why you should multiply your current AI token costs by three before approving a business case. (27:49) - Headless Applications: Rethinking capital allocation as enterprise apps lose their user interfaces to AI control planes.(31:25) - Organizational Strategy: The difference between a "10,000 Wildflowers" experimentation approach and a focused "10 Oak Trees" strategy.(36:26) - Who Owns AI?: Why AI run by IT is just a tech project, but AI run by the business is true transformation.(42:34) - Re-engineering the Enterprise: Collapsing 30-year-old sales and service silos into a single end-to-end agentic workflow.(47:00) - The 4x4 Board Framework: A practical matrix for CEOs and boards to navigate cost takeout, growth, industry transformation, and new threats.About Proc n Roll:Proc n Roll is your go-to podcast for navigating the complex intersections of procurement, supply chain, and cutting-edge technology. Join hosts Conrad Smith, Natasha Gurevich, and Zacharcy Bachir as they interview industry leaders, unpack digital transformation, and explore how AI is redefining the future of enterprise work.</p>
July 3, 2026
The Biggest Mistake You're Making With Your AI Experiments
<p>Welcome to another Jam Session on Proc n Roll! This week, Conrad sits down with Ajay Khosla from Google to dive deep into the reality of agentic procurement and enterprise AI. They discuss the rapid evolution from simple generative chatbots to powerful, proactive agents (like Open Claw) and how these tools are fundamentally changing the user experience in sourcing.</p><p><br></p><p>Discover why the future of procurement looks a lot like the corporate travel agents of the 1990s, how to safely boost your "AIQ," and why your traditional CLM might just become a glorified data repository. Hit play to learn how to move from last year's AI pilots to delivering actual, measurable value today.</p><p><br><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p><p>(00:01:01) - Intro: Welcoming Ajay Khosla to the jam session.</p><p>(00:02:25) - The Evolution of AI: From Zapier workflows to Open Claw and agentic procurement.</p><p>(00:05:14) - The Dangers of Access: Setting up guardrails and controlling bad actors in AI.</p><p>(00:07:05) - Real-World AI: Using agents to build complex Excel spreadsheets and manage data.</p><p>(00:12:47) - The Google Perspective: Standardizing procurement across a 25-year-old enterprise.</p><p>(00:15:37) - The Travel Agent Analogy: Bringing the "white-glove" concierge experience back to sourcing.</p><p>(00:19:25) - Guardrails & Policy: Orchestrating procurement dynamically based on company rules.</p><p>(00:26:08) - Will AI Take Your Job?: Escaping administrative onboarding tasks to focus on strategic advising.</p><p>(00:31:50) - Getting Practical: Moving beyond proofs-of-concept to actual value implementation.</p><p>(00:36:13) - The Data Foundation: Why getting your data right is critical to prevent hallucinations.</p><p>(00:41:52) - Boosting Your AIQ: 3 practical tips to level up your agentic intelligence right now.</p><p>(00:47:23) - The Reverse Mentorship: Why you should find a digital-native Gen Z mentor.</p><p>(00:55:37) - Rethinking the Tech Stack: Modular approaches and why the traditional CLM is dead.</p><p>(01:00:01) - Leadership Lessons: Choosing relationships and doing the right thing over raw results.</p><p><strong>About Proc n Roll:</strong><br></p><p>Welcome to <strong>Proc n Roll</strong>, the ultimate podcast for procurement, supply chain, and enterprise technology. Hosted by Conrad, Zach, and Natasha, we cut through the corporate noise to deliver honest, hype-free conversations with top industry leaders, innovators, and digital mentors. Whether we are breaking down complex AI agent frameworks, debating the future of the ProcureTech stack, or sharing practical leadership strategies to help you level up your career, our goal is to deliver actionable insights you can apply on Monday morning.</p>
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