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Building AI-Powered Products at Scale with Mario Rodriguez, CPO of GitHub
"Success clarity allows objective prioritization."
In this episode, we sit down with Mario Rodriguez, Chief Product Officer at GitHub, to discuss how to build and scale AI-powered products while managing 150 million users and preventing team burnout.
Mario shares how GitHub balances diverse user needs across maintainers, developers, and enterprise teams by defining clear success metrics and allocating resources strategically. He explains the company's API-first approach that enables customization across workflows, and how Copilot evolved from 20% acceptance rates to advanced agentic capabilities reshaping developer productivity.
Listeners will learn strategies for preventing burnout during rapid AI development cycles, building products through tight customer feedback loops, and applying the "Understand, Identify, Execute" framework to improve product clarity and decision-making.
For show notes and more resources, visit: www.pragmaticinstitute.com/resources/podcasts
Pragmatic Institute is the global leader in Product, Data, and Design training and certification programs for working professionals. Learn more at www.pragmaticinstitute.com.
24 Oct 2025TRANSCRIPT
Making Market Research Practical and Impactful with Ana Laskey, founder of Ground Control Research
“Nothing important happens in the office.”
In this episode, we sit down with Anastassia (Ana) Laskey, founder of Ground Control Research and creator of the Brand and Market Telemetry Method, to discuss how to make market research faster, more practical, and more impactful.
Ana shares how even the most curious organizations often lack the structure and process to turn that curiosity into usable insights. She explains how to design “just-right” research: work that’s rigorous enough to reduce risk but scrappy enough to keep pace with business demands. Ana shares strategies on how to align stakeholders, choose the right research scope, and tell stories that make insights impossible to ignore.
Listeners will learn how to improve B2B recruiting, communicate insights more effectively, and leverage AI responsibly to speed up analysis without sacrificing quality.
For show notes and more resources, visit: www.pragmaticinstitute.com/resources/podcasts
Pragmatic Institute is the global leader in Product, Data, and Design training and certification programs for working professionals. Learn more at www.pragmaticinstitute.com.
17 Oct 2025TRANSCRIPT
The Real Power of Pricing with Ajit Ghuman, co-founder of Monetizely
“Pricing is product marketing’s most measurable lever.”
In this episode, we chat with Ajit Ghuman, co-founder of Monetizely and author of Price to Scale, about how pricing and product marketing work together to shape business strategy and drive growth.
Ajit walks through his journey from product management to marketing and eventually pricing, explaining why pricing is really an extension of segmentation, positioning, and value proposition. He makes the case that pricing isn’t a separate discipline but the action-oriented side of product marketing – where great storytelling meets real business results.
They dig into how to make SaaS pricing more effective through thoughtful packaging, how AI introduces new pricing challenges, and why software deflation and commoditization are pushing companies to stand out through niche offerings and services. Ajit also shares how shifts from high-growth to high-margin economies are changing the way leaders think about pricing and sustainability.
Tune in to discover how to tie pricing to your overall company strategy, communicate value clearly, and apply pricing fundamentals that hold up no matter how quickly technology changes.
For show notes and more resources, visit: www.pragmaticinstitute.com/resources/podcasts
Pragmatic Institute is the global leader in Product, Data, and Design training and certification programs for working professionals. Learn more at www.pragmaticinstitute.com.
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Building AI-Powered Products at Scale with Mario Rodriguez, CPO of GitHub
Published 28 Oct 2025 · Transcript excerpt
[…] We also believe very deeply in what we call developer choice. Like we know for a fact, if you looked at history of time, developers are like, oh, I'm only gonna use one tool in this specific way and they said like they love choice, they love experimenting, they love tinkering, they love going in and customizing something to what they really desire. So that DNA in GitHub of developer choice then requires, not requires. Like it's our responsibility to make sure that we're leaving to that DNA every day and making sure that you want to use this model, go ahead and do it and you want to kind of try this type of experiences, go ahead and do it as well. […]
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