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Proof of Story with Rob Sags

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Crypto is full of characters. Builders with crazy stories, pushing the limits of what’s possible. Here we dive into all of it. The behind-the-scenes moments that never show up in protocol docs or conference talks. If you want the real story of how ideas become on-chain reality, this is the place. Welcome to Proof of Story.

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May 14, 2026

Why Elite Hunting Dogs Solve Problems Humans Can't See (Jordan Horak)

<p>Sags and Jordan Horak of Cato Outdoors get into why great hunting dogs can solve problems humans barely understand, how instinct shows up in both dogs and business, and why some of the best outcomes come from operating without certainty. </p><p><br></p><p>Here’s what you’ll get from this one: </p><p><br></p><p>🔥 Why dogs can smell direction not just scent</p><p>🔥 The 3 percent odds behind winning nationals</p><p>🔥 Waking up in a cold sweat after ordering 700 Cato Boards</p><p>🔥 Why Perdiz hunting breaks American hunting instincts</p><p>🔥 How young dogs find more birds while acting completely insane</p><p>🔥 The difference between tracking scent and smelling birds in the air</p><p>🔥 Why Mel moving 200 cattle became the perfect puppy test</p><p>🔥 How COVID accidentally exploded the business</p><p>🔥 Why the best dogs solve problems handlers cannot even see</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 Intro</p><p>04:16 Winning Nationals and Building Cato Outdoors</p><p>11:10 Flying a Hunting Dog Into South America</p><p>16:34 Why Perdiz Hunting Feels Completely Different</p><p>21:02 Why Dogs Smell Directionally</p><p>26:30 The Death March Hunt</p><p>37:28 Reflections on Uruguay</p><p><br></p><p>Connect with Jordan</p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-horak-78280920"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordan-horak-78280920</u></a></p><p><br></p><p>Cato Outdoors</p><p><a href="https://catooutdoors.com/"><u>https://catooutdoors.com/</u></a> </p><p><br></p><p>Connect with Sags</p><p><a href="https://x.com/RobertSagurton"><u>https://x.com/RobertSagurton</u></a></p><p><br></p><p>Trade without Compromise @Fogo</p><p><a href="https://www.fogo.io/"><u>https://www.fogo.io/</u></a></p><p><br></p>

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May 5, 2026

Why Every New Market Costs Trading Firms Millions in Infrastructure (Thiago Rudiger)

<p>Sags and Thiago Rudiger of TheHUB get into why trading firms keep rebuilding the exact same infrastructure every time they enter a new market and why that cost still hasn’t been solved… </p><p><br></p><p>Here’s what you’ll get from this one:</p><p><br></p><p>🔥 Trading firms pay millions per market just to access the same setup</p><p>🔥 No shared infrastructure forces repeated capex across exchanges</p><p>🔥 TheHUB collapses multiple markets into one trading environment</p><p>🔥 Market makers immediately understand the cost advantage</p><p>🔥 Crypto VCs miss it because they never dealt with TradFi constraints</p><p>🔥 Access to data feeds like CME becomes a real bottleneck</p><p>🔥 Exchanges act as magnets that pull liquidity and participants</p><p>🔥 Brazil has strong technical talent but lacks venture capital depth </p><p><br></p><p>0:00 Intro</p><p>01:10 Career and Consulting Background</p><p>05:12 Institutional Crypto Research</p><p>07:13 Stablecoin Growth and Operations</p><p>12:23 Brazilian Builder Community</p><p>16:04 TheHUB Project and HFT</p><p>24:00 Data Center Growth and Global Expansion </p><p><br></p><p>Connect with Thiago Rudiger:</p><p>https://x.com/thiagorudiger </p><p><br></p><p>Connect with Sags</p><p>https://x.com/RobertSagurton</p><p><br></p><p>Trade without Compromise @Fogo</p><p>https://www.fogo.io/</p><p><br></p>

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April 30, 2026

She Turned a Crypto Airdrop Into Clean Water for 5,000 People (@WomanDefi)

<p>Sags sits down with @WomanDefi (OG Fogo Community Member) who took a Fogo airdrop and turned it into clean water access for thousands of people in rural Pakistan. </p><p><br></p><p>This conversation covers:</p><p><br></p><p>🔥 Turning airdrops into real world infrastructure instead of flipping</p><p>🔥 What crypto adoption actually looks like in regions still running on cash</p><p>🔥 The ground reality of communities spending hours just to access water</p><p>🔥 How small local teams execute faster than centralized orgs</p><p>🔥 Why trust and local ownership determine whether impact lasts</p><p>🔥 The gap between crypto narratives and actual use cases that matter</p><p>🔥 Starting with water before layering healthcare education and food security</p><p>🔥 Why most people still see crypto as a scam and what changes that</p><p>🔥 The role of mobile access versus cultural resistance in adoption</p><p>🔥 Building systems that empower instead of just distributing aid</p><p><br></p><p>0:00 Intro</p><p>0:19 The Airdrop Dinner With Family  </p><p>1:52 Crypto Adoption Reality in Pakistan  </p><p>6:12 Why She Didn’t Sell the Airdrop  </p><p>9:18 Turning an Airdrop Into Clean Water Infrastructure  </p><p>14:06 Crypto Use Cases That Actually Matter  </p><p>19:29 Purpose, Trust, and Building for Others  <br></p><p><br></p><p>Connect with @WomanDefi:</p><p>https://x.com/WomanDefi </p><p><br></p><p>Connect with Sags</p><p>https://x.com/RobertSagurton</p><p><br></p><p>Trade without Compromise @ Fogo</p><p>https://www.fogo.io/</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>

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What is Proof of Story with Rob Sags?

Crypto is full of characters. Builders with crazy stories, pushing the limits of what’s possible.

Here we dive into all of it. The behind-the-scenes moments that never show up in protocol docs or conference talks.

If you want the real story of how ideas become on-chain reality, this is the place.

Welcome to Proof of Story.

How often does this podcast release new episodes?

This podcast updates daily.

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Yes, this podcast regularly features guests.

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