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Welcome to Proof of Thought - the podcast where we break down how companies are using crypto, from billion-dollar Bitcoin treasuries to failed blockchain experiments. If a company has touched crypto, we’re dissecting the strategy behind it
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May 27, 2026
Anthony Scaramucci: The Truth About Trump, Bitcoin, and My Redemption
<p>Help support the channel by checking out our amazing sponsors:</p><p>https://www.joincrowdhealth.com/proof and</p><p>https://mangrove.ai</p><p><br></p><p>⚡ CrowdHealth is a peer to peer healthcare platform that removes insurance middlemen and aligns incentives through community driven incentives. Listeners of Proof of Thought can try it for $99 per month for the first three months at joincrowdhealth.com/proof.</p><p><br></p><p>⚡ Mangrove is a non custodial automated trading platform for digital assets. The platform allows you to easily build and deploy trading bots with built in guardrails and safety stops. Visit Mangrove.ai to access their developer tools or join the waitlist. Early adopters get 2 months free.</p><p><br></p><p>🧠 Don't miss future episodes — subscribe to Proof of Thought for more deep Bitcoin, crypto, and investing insights and conversations!</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Anthony Scaramucci:</p><p>X: https://x.com/Scaramucci</p><p>SkyBridge Capital: https://www.skybridge.com</p><p><br></p><p>Today's conversation is with Anthony Scaramucci, founder of SkyBridge Capital, former White House Communications Director, and one of Wall Street's most outspoken Bitcoin bulls — a 40-year finance veteran who has built his career at the intersection of macro investing, alternative assets, and now digital money.</p><p>Anthony shares his framework for understanding Bitcoin not simply as a speculative technology, but as the apex predator of the emerging monetary system — the only asset with the network scale, institutional backing, and monetary properties required to function as a true global store of value. He makes the case that every serious investor who has done the homework has arrived at the same conclusion, and that the window to act is narrowing.</p><p>In this episode, he breaks down why the four-year halving cycle is still very much alive, why October 1st is the date he has circled for Bitcoin's next move, and how a single meeting inside the White House in 2017 changed the way he thinks about money forever. We also discuss the K-shaped economy and what everyday people can do about it, why Michael Saylor's digital credit products are misunderstood by the masses, and how Bitcoin decoupling from traditional markets could be the most important macro trade of the next decade.</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps</p><p>0:00 What Price Anthony Thinks Bitcoin is Going To</p><p>4:50 Is the 4-year Bitcoin Cycle Overhyped?</p><p>5:53 CrowdHealth Sponsorship</p><p>7:07 Mangrove Sponsorship</p><p>7:55 When Bitcoin Becomes Mainstream, What Does a Normal Person’s Life Look Like</p><p>10:44 What Saylor Understands About Bitcoin That You Don’t</p><p>14:46 Why Aren’t People Taking a “Guaranteed” 11.5% Return?</p><p>16:34 Is Anthony Concerned About Market All Time Highs?</p><p>19:54 Did The Fed Find a Strategy in 2008 to Prevent Recessions?</p><p>22:02 How Can the Everyday Person Benefit from the K-shaped Economy?</p><p>23:44 “Assume You’re Going to Lose Your Job [because of AI]”</p><p>25:12 How Anthony uses AI</p><p>28:09 Will the New Fed be an Issue for Markets?</p><p>30:27 Trump Should Resign. Immediately.</p><p>36:13 Are There People Above Trump Actually Pulling the Strings in the Government?</p><p>37:05 Anthony’s Favorite White House Story</p><p>39:09 Did Anthony Ever Expect to be Part of the White House?</p><p>40:48 Anthony’s Biggest Life Setback</p><p>42:53 Will We See Another FTX-level Scam in the Crypto World? + Anthony’s Thoughts on SBF</p><p>47:32 Conspiracy Theories + How Does a Young Person Get Access to Great Investors</p><p>50:55 What Actually Motivates Anthony?</p><p>53:04 What Does Greatness Look Like to Anthony?</p><p><br></p><p>About Anthony:</p><p>Anthony Scaramucci is the founder and managing partner of SkyBridge Capital, a global alternative investment firm, and the author of multiple books on investing and leadership. A Harvard Law School graduate and Goldman Sachs veteran, he served briefly as White House Communications Director in 2017 — an experience he credits with accelerating his conviction in Bitcoin. </p><p><br></p><p>Proof of Thought's FREE newsletter (join the waitlist): https://forms.gle/F7Q4GSBJcQmnyhJ16</p><p><br></p><p>⚠️ See Full Disclaimer: </p><p>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B4TH--7oKxbqahMDhrnfJElCS3UGCfFm/view?usp=sharing</p>

May 9, 2026
Bitcoin's Peak-Then-Crash Pattern: This Signal Predicts It Every Time | CJ Konstantinos
<p>Help support the channel by checking out our amazing sponsors: </p><p>https://www.joincrowdhealth.com/proof and</p><p>https://mangrove.ai</p><p><br /></p><p>⚡ CrowdHealth is a peer to peer healthcare platform that removes insurance middlemen and aligns incentives through community driven incentives. Listeners of Proof of Thought can try it for $99 per month for the first three months at joincrowdhealth.com/proof.</p><p><br /></p><p>⚡ Mangrove is a non custodial automated trading platform for digital assets. The platform allows you to easily build and deploy trading bots with built in guardrails and safety stops. Visit Mangrove.ai to access their developer tools or join the waitlist. Early adopters get 2 months free.</p><p><br /></p><p>🧠 Don’t miss future episodes — subscribe to Proof of Thought for more deep Bitcoin, crypto, and investing insights and conversations!</p><p><br /></p><p>#Bitcoin #Crypto #Investing </p><p><br /></p><p>Follow CJ:</p><p>X: https://x.com/CJKonstantinos</p><p>Peoples Reserve: https://www.peoplesreserve.com</p><p><br /></p><p>Today's conversation is with CJ Konstantinos, founder of People's Reserve and creator of the Bitcoin Fair Value indicator — a 10-year Bitcoin veteran who has built his career at the intersection of Bitcoin mining, monetary theory, and decentralized finance.</p><p>CJ shares his framework for understanding Bitcoin not simply as a speculative asset or savings technology, but as engineered money — the only asset in the world capable of raising or lowering its own cost of production through the halving and difficulty adjustment mechanism, and why that design makes it the most pristine form of collateral ever created.</p><p>In this episode, he breaks down how Bitcoin mining shaped his understanding of price discovery, why the cost of production acts as a structural price floor, and how to use that framework to determine whether you should be accumulating Bitcoin or accumulating dollars at any given point in the cycle. We also discuss why the financialization of Bitcoin — using it as collateral rather than selling it — represents the next major wave of adoption, and how People's Reserve is building the financial tools to make that possible through Bitcoin-powered mortgages and collateralized sound money obligations.</p><p><br /></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>0:00 CJ's Bitcoin Journey</p><p>4:42 CrowdHealth Sponsorship</p><p>5:55 Mangrove Sponsorship</p><p>6:43 How Bitcoin Mining Predicts Bitcoin's Future Price</p><p>10:21 If You Truly Understand Bitcoin, Don't DCA</p><p>13:53 "The Halving" and Why It's Like Bitcoin's Central Bank</p><p>17:21 Why Engineered Money is an Advantage Over Gold and Fiat</p><p>21:43 Bitcoin's Adaptability is its Secret Weapon</p><p>25:38 You Need to Know Why Bitcoin is Being Monetized</p><p>31:29 Peoples Reserve Lets You Borrow Against Bitcoin to Pay Your Mortgage</p><p>35:00 How is Peoples Reserve Funded?</p><p>41:14 This Is Bitcoin's Next Trigger</p><p>47:14 Is the Bitcoin Strategic Reserve A Failure Yet?</p><p>55:05 What Does a Successful Bitcoin Strategic Reserve Look Like?</p><p>57:12 Closing Thoughts</p><p><br /></p><p>About CJ: </p><p>CJ Konstantinos is a 10-year Bitcoin veteran who views BTC as the reserve asset of the internet economy and the most pristine form of collateral in the world. He is the creator of the btcFairValue (BFV) indicator, a tool used by miners for algorithmic treasury management, and the founder of People's Reserve and Christian Investment Analysis. As founder of People's Reserve, he's known for developing innovative financial products like self-repaying mortgages and Bitcoin-backed loans, and has been outspoken about navigating the regulatory challenges that come with operating in the Bitcoin lending space. </p><p><br /></p><p>Proof of Thought's FREE newsletter (join the waitlist): https://forms.gle/F7Q4GSBJcQmnyhJ16 </p><p>Intro Song: Electronic Future Beats_Fadeout by QubeSounds</p><p><br /></p><p>📩 Promote your brand with Proof of Thought. For sponsorship & partnership opportunities, contact inquiriespot@gmail.com</p><p><br /></p><p>⚠️ See Full Disclaimer Here:</p><p>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B4TH--7oKxbqahMDhrnfJElCS3UGCfFm/view?usp=sharing</p>

April 25, 2026
Lyn Alden: The Collapse Is Here, Nothing Stops This Train
<p>🧠 Don’t miss future episodes — subscribe to Proof of Thought for more deep Bitcoin, crypto, and investing insights and conversations!</p><p>Help support the show by checking out our amazing sponsors: https://www.joincrowdhealth.com/proof and https://mangrove.ai</p><p>⭐️ Follow Lyn</p><p>X: https://x.com/LynAldenContact</p><p>Website: https://www.lynalden.com/</p><p><br></p><p>Today's conversation is with Lyn Alden, founder of Lyn Alden Investment Strategy and author of the bestselling book Broken Money.</p><p>Lyn shares her framework for understanding why the current monetary system is broken, drawing on the historical parallels between the economic cycles of the 1920s-1940s and what we are living through today.</p><p>In this episode, she breaks down how debt bubbles form and collapse, why the transition from private to public sector debt is inherently inflationary, and why she believes continued currency debasement is now the most likely path forward for the United States and much of the developed world.</p><p>Lyn explains why the Fed's inflation targeting actively works against everyday workers and savers, how scarce assets have historically been the only reliable shelter from debasement, and why Bitcoin represents something new.</p><p><br></p><p>Timestamps:</p><p>0:00 If the 2020s is like the 1940s, what can we expect in the 2030s?</p><p>5:50 #ads</p><p>7:52 Are we heading towards continued debasement?</p><p>9:14 Why you should be concerned there's 325x more broad money per person</p><p>12:53 Price deflation is good; here's why</p><p>19:08 Current policy encourages consumption, how should we avoid this?</p><p>22:57 Central banks are controlling gold's price</p><p>28:04 U.S. asset freezes are killing treasuries</p><p>30:40 Why don't other countries just hold neutral assets to avoid freezes?</p><p>34:59 Will bitcoin become the world's reserve currency? How can it do so?</p><p>39:14 The current dollar systems is destined to fail</p><p>41:42 Have we irreversibly given up control of money to banks?</p><p>45:57 The modern system is designed for banks (like SVB) to fail</p><p>50:08 Why do countries with failing currencies not turn towards hard money?</p><p>51:50 How Lyn would fix the money if she was president</p><p>58:31 What Lyn would change about Broken Money</p><p>1:00:34 Was it coincidence that bitcoin appeared after the 2008 crisis?</p><p>1:03:24 Why bitcoin is the right solution to broken money</p><p>1:08:25 What does bitcoin need to accomplish to fix the money</p><p>1:11:02 What value does MSTR provide to bitcoin?</p><p><br></p><p>About Lyn:</p><p>Lyn Alden is the founder of Lyn Alden Investment Strategy and the author of Broken Money, a comprehensive exploration of the past, present, and future of monetary history. Lyn is known for her ability to connect long cycle economic thinking with actionable investment frameworks, and for making complex monetary concepts accessible to a wide audience.</p><p><br></p><p>Video Editor: Jane Baer (janebaer03@gmail.com)</p><p>Intro Song:</p><p>Electronic Future Beats_Fadeout by QubeSounds</p><p><br></p><p>📩 Promote your brand with Proof of Thought. For sponsorship & partnership opportunities, contact inquiriespot@gmail.com </p><p><br></p><p>⚠️ Disclaimer</p><p>This content is for informational and educational purposes only and should not be construed as financial, investment, legal, tax, or any other form of advice. Nothing contained in this program constitutes a solicitation, recommendation, endorsement, or offer by Proof of Thought Podcast (“PoT”) or its guests to buy or sell any securities, cryptocurrencies, or other financial instruments.Investing involves substantial risk, including the possible loss of principal. Do your own research and consult qualified financial professionals before making any investment decisions.The views expressed by guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of PoT, its hosts, sponsors, or affiliates. PoT and its participants may hold positions in or receive compensation from companies, assets, or products mentioned.PoT, its hosts, and its guests are not financial advisors and are not responsible for any losses, damages, or actions taken based on the information presented. Use of this content is at your own risk.</p>
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