Pushing Over the Box
Claim This Podcastby Jasmine Jain
Podcast Overview
<p>Pushing Over the Box is a ballet podcast about the dancer's mindset — hosted by young dancer Jasmine Jain.</p><p></p><p>Through candid ballet interviews with leading figures in the dance world — from principal dancers at American Ballet Theatre and New York City Ballet to choreographers, dance physiotherapists, and photographers — Jasmine explores the real stories behind the beauty: discipline, injury, recovery, resilience, artistry, and what it really takes to keep going.</p><p></p><p>Past guests include Misty Copeland, Isabella LaFreniere, Cassandra Trenary, Skylar Brandt, and more.</p><p></p><p>New episodes biweekly.</p>
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Recent Episodes
June 17, 2026
Deborah Ory — On Injury, Photography, and What She Looks for in Every Shot | Pushing Over the Box
<p>Deborah Ory went to college for dance. In her second semester, she got injured. Everyone had already registered for classes and she didn't know what to do — until she spotted her father's camera and talked her way into a photography class that was already full.</p><p></p><p>That was the beginning of everything.</p><p></p><p>In this episode of Pushing Over the Box, Jasmine Jain sits down with Deborah Ory — acclaimed dance photographer, co-founder of NYC Dance Project, and author of three books including The Art of Movement, winner of the International Photography Award. They talk about how a dance injury accidentally launched one of the most celebrated careers in dance photography, what she's really looking for when she picks up her camera, how she captures movement in a single still frame, and what she'd tell her 13-year-old self about patience.</p><p></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>[02:14] How a Dance Injury Led to Her Photography Career</p><p>[04:26] How She Captures Movement in a Still Image</p><p>[11:54] What She'd Tell Her 13-Year-Old Self</p><p></p><p>ABOUT THE GUEST: Deborah Ory is an acclaimed dance photographer and co-founder of NYC Dance Project. Her editorial, commercial, and fine art work has appeared across major publications and campaigns. She is the co-author of The Art of Movement (2016 International Photography Award winner), The Style of Movement: Fashion and Dance (2019), and Martha Graham Dance Company: 100 Years.</p><p></p><p>ABOUT PUSHING OVER THE BOX: Pushing Over the Box is a ballet podcast about the dancer's mindset, hosted by young dancer Jasmine Jain. Through interviews with leading ballet professionals, the podcast explores discipline, artistry, injury, resilience, and what it takes to pursue excellence.</p><p></p><p>CONNECT:</p><p>Instagram: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/pushingoverthebox/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/pushingoverthebox/</a> Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://pushingoverthebox.com" target="_blank">https://pushingoverthebox.com</a></p><p>Spotify: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1zHqK394AYtUjYxbB9FNZ1" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/1zHqK394AYtUjYxbB9FNZ1</a> Apple Podcasts: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pushing-over-the-box/id1847970742" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pushing-over-the-box/id1847970742</a></p><p></p><p>#ballet #balletpodcast #balletphotography #dancepodcast #deborahory #nycdanceproject #dancephotography #artofmovement #balletinterview #dancephotographer</p><p></p><p><i>Topics discussed: dance photography, ballet photographer interview, NYC Dance Project, injury and pivot, The Art of Movement, capturing emotion in photography, advice for young dancers, dance and fashion</i></p><p></p><p><i>Guest: Deborah Ory — Dance Photographer & Co-Founder, NYC Dance Project</i></p><p></p><p><i>Pushing Over the Box is a ballet podcast about the dancer's mindset. Listen at </i><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://pushingoverthebox.com" target="_blank"><i>pushingoverthebox.com</i></a></p>
June 3, 2026
Emilie Gerrity, NYCB Principal — On Falling, Comparison, and Your Own Path | Pushing Over the Box
<p>Emilie Gerrity was a competition kid. Star Power. Disney World. Hip hop, lyrical, tap, jazz — all of it. At 12, she walked away from competitions and decided she was going to try to get into New York City Ballet. Three years at SAB later, she did.</p><p></p><p>In this episode of Pushing Over the Box, Jasmine Jain sits down with Emilie Gerrity — principal dancer at New York City Ballet and recipient of the 2009 Mae L. Wien Award. They talk about leaving home at 15, waiting eight years in the company before being promoted to soloist, what happened the night she fell completely sideways on stage during a solo, and the moment she finally stopped comparing her journey to everyone else's.</p><p></p><p>TIMESTAMPS:</p><p>[13:07] Falling on Stage — and What Her Partner Said</p><p>[21:26] Letting Go of Comparison and Finding Peace in Your Own Journey</p><p>[24:05] Advice She'd Give Her 13-Year-Old Self</p><p></p><p>ABOUT THE GUEST: Emilie Gerrity is a principal dancer at New York City Ballet and the recipient of the 2009 Mae L. Wien Award. She is known for her clarity, speed, and expressiveness on stage.</p><p></p><p>ABOUT PUSHING OVER THE BOX: Pushing Over the Box is a ballet podcast about the dancer's mindset, hosted by young dancer Jasmine Jain. Through interviews with leading ballet professionals, the podcast explores discipline, artistry, injury, resilience, and what it takes to pursue excellence.</p><p></p><p>CONNECT: <br />Instagram: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/pushingoverthebox/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/pushingoverthebox/</a> <br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://pushingoverthebox.com" target="_blank">https://pushingoverthebox.com</a></p><p>Spotify: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1zHqK394AYtUjYxbB9FNZ" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/1zHqK394AYtUjYxbB9FNZ</a></p><p>Apple Podcasts: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pushing-over-the-box/id1847970742" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pushing-over-the-box/id1847970742</a></p><p></p><p><i>#ballet #balletpodcast #balletmindset #dancepodcast #emiliegerrity #nycb #newyorkcityballet #principaldancer #maelwienaward #balletinterview</i></p><p></p><p><i>Topics discussed: NYCB principal dancer interview, ballet comparison, ballet promotion, falling on stage, ballet resilience, Mae L. Wien award, advice for young dancers, ballet mindset</i></p><p></p><p><i>Guest: Emilie Gerrity — Principal Dancer, New York City Ballet</i></p><p></p><p><i>Pushing Over the Box is a ballet podcast about the dancer's mindset. Listen at </i><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://pushingoverthebox.com" target="_blank"><i>pushingoverthebox.com</i></a></p>
May 20, 2026
Emma Von Enck, NYCB Principal — On Promotion, Nerves, and Real Success | Pushing Over the Box
<p>Emma Von Enck quit ballet when she was 12. She wanted to try acting. She hated it. She begged her mom to put her back in.<br /><br />A few years later, she was standing in the wings at New York City Ballet, still in her Rubies costume, being told she'd just been promoted to principal.<br /><br />In this episode of Pushing Over the Box, Jasmine Jain sits down with Emma Von Enck — principal dancer at New York City Ballet, Fordham University graduate, and two-time Princess Grace Award nominee. They talk about the long road to SAB, what nobody tells you about being a soloist, the moment she found out she was a principal (mid-show, in costume, her dad waiting backstage), how she handles pre-show nerves, and what she wishes her 13-year-old self had known about trying hard.<br /><br />TIMESTAMPS:<br />[11:46] The Night She Found Out She Was a Principal<br />[19:07] How Emma Manages Pre-Show Nerves<br />[28:53] What She's Learned About Real Success<br /><br />ABOUT THE GUEST: Emma Von Enck is a principal dancer at New York City Ballet. A graduate of Fordham University, she is a two-time Princess Grace Award nominee and the 2016 recipient of the Mae L. Wien Award. She is known for her speed, clarity, and vivacious presence on stage.<br /><br />ABOUT PUSHING OVER THE BOX: Pushing Over the Box is a ballet podcast about the dancer's mindset, hosted by young dancer Jasmine Jain. Through interviews with leading ballet professionals, the podcast explores discipline, artistry, injury, resilience, and what it takes to pursue excellence.<br /><br />CONNECT:<br />Instagram: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://www.instagram.com/pushingoverthebox/" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/pushingoverthebox/</a><br />Website: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://pushingoverthebox.com" target="_blank">https://pushingoverthebox.com</a><br />Spotify: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1zHqK394AYtUjYxbB9FNZ1" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/show/1zHqK394AYtUjYxbB9FNZ1</a><br />Apple Podcasts: <a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pushing-over-the-box/id1847970742" target="_blank">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pushing-over-the-box/id1847970742</a><br /><br />#ballet #balletpodcast #balletmindset #dancepodcast #emmavonenc #nycb #newyorkcityballet #principaldancer #princessgraceaward #balletinterview<br /><br /><i>Topics discussed: NYCB principal dancer interview, ballet promotion, ballet nerves, pre-show routine, Princess Grace Award, ballet success, ballet mindset, advice for young dancers<br /><br />Guest: Emma Von Enck — Principal Dancer, New York City Ballet<br /><br />Pushing Over the Box is a ballet podcast about the dancer's mindset. Listen at </i><a rel="noopener noreferrer nofollow" href="http://pushingoverthebox.com" target="_blank"><i>pushingoverthebox.com</i></a></p>
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- What is Pushing Over the Box?
<p>Pushing Over the Box is a ballet podcast about the dancer's mindset — hosted by young dancer Jasmine Jain.</p><p></p><p>Through candid ballet interviews with leading figures in the dance world — from principal dancers at American Ballet Theatre and New York City Ballet to choreographers, dance physiotherapists, and photographers — Jasmine explores the real stories behind the beauty: discipline, injury, recovery, resilience, artistry, and what it really takes to keep going.</p><p></p><p>Past guests include Misty Copeland, Isabella LaFreniere, Cassandra Trenary, Skylar Brandt, and more.</p><p></p><p>New episodes biweekly.</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
This podcast updates daily.
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