Quality of Mind - Exploring ’Before Psychology’ to create a foundational shift in performance, peace and potential. A game changing understanding of the Mind to transform Business. Realise exponential human potential in every aspect of business and work. Subscribe to hear interviews, examples and ideas, that might just change how you see the world.
Quality of Mind: Realising Exponential Potential.
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Quality of Mind - Exploring ’Before Psychology’ to create a foundational shift in performance, peace and potential. A game changing understanding of the Mind to transform Business. Realise exponential human potential in every aspect of business and work. Subscribe to hear interviews, examples and ideas, that might just change how you see the world.
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Recent Episodes
June 11, 2026
The Game Behind the Game: Football & Quality of Mind
Host Piers Thurston and guest Craig Wilman explore how football reveals the mind's tendency to create conditional happiness and the freedom found in seeing life as a game.
May 17, 2026
The Point of Now: Identity, Presence and Seeing Through the Busy Mind
The Point of Now: Presence, Identity and Seeing Through the Busy Mind The podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates “Before Psychology” — the secret source that exponentially increases peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation. A simple yet powerful way to see through the noisy mind In this episode, Piers speaks with fellow coach and author Suzie Yeulett about her new book The Point of Now, and the simple but profound direction it points towards: the present moment, the nature of thought, and the resilience that is already available beneath the noise of the mind. The conversation explores how much of our suffering comes from living in the mind’s projections of past and future, and how presence is not something we need to find, force or practise, but something that is already here. Suzie shares how her own experience of being with her mother at the end of life revealed a natural resilience that she had not created through tools, techniques or self-improvement. Piers and Suzie also explore the deeper Quality of Mind theme of mistaken identity: what is the “self” actually made of, and what changes when identity is seen as thought, sensation and perception rather than something solid? The episode moves from practical examples of anxiety and overthinking into a deeper inquiry into presence, feeling, identity and the possibility of living with less striving and more natural clarity. Key Discussion Takeaways Presence is already here - it is not something we need to manufacture or force Much of our pressure comes from thought travelling into past and future Identity is not fixed or solid; it appears through thought, sensation and perception The “self” may not be something to improve, but something to see through Feeling is not a problem to fix - we are designed to feel This is not about adding another technique, reframe or grounding tool Simple noticing can reveal how the mind works and naturally lighten the load Life becomes less serious when the role of the mind is seen more clearly Key Chapters include: 03:33 How change can happen through recognition rather than tools or techniques 05:08 Suzie explains “the point of now” and her inverted triangle framework 06:50 Presence is already here - we are not looking for something missing 08:42 The everyday operating system of busy-mindedness and control 10:08 Anxiety, overthinking and asking: “where is the problem right now?” 12:18 The “fear of fear” and how anticipation creates suffering 13:51 Realisation versus using presence as another technique 14:48 What is identity, and why “shifting identity” may miss the deeper point 16:05 Direct experience inquiry and seeing the self as psychological 18:49 The case of mistaken identity and why it keeps us in the operating mind 20:10 Taking things personally and how that contracts perspective 21:24 Neutral noticing, expanded aperture and seeing that it is not really happening to “me” 23:17 The part of us that is undamaged by experience 24:35 Why we are designed to feel, rather than distract ourselves from feeling 27:05 When the conceptual mind has nowhere to go 28:07 What babies show us about feeling without self-identification 29:38 Seeing the mind move from invisible, to subtle, to obvious 32:24 How trying to be present can reinforce the separate self 36:54 How far simple noticing can take us 38:11 Loosening the conviction of separate identity 41:10 The relief of seeing there may not be a problem to fix 41:51 Why the words are not the point - the recognition underneath is 43:47 Natural change versus more tools, protocols and strategies 50:15 Life becomes less serious when we take the mind less seriously Curious? Want to know more? Explore Suzie's book "The Point of Now" . Highly recommended. You can get some free chapters on the link. and Buy it here now https://amzn.eu/d/5fyskTl Suzie's LinkedIn profile is here Explore all t
March 23, 2026
The Hidden Cause of Procrastination — It’s Not ''What'' You Think
The podcast series explores a game-changing understanding of the human mind that operates “Before Psychology” — the secret source that exponentially increases peace, performance, and potential for any individual or organisation. What if procrastination isn’t a discipline problem at all — but a misunderstanding about how the mind works? Are you ready to explore the real cause of procrastination? In this episode, Piers is interviewed by Deborah Hurwitz, host of the Productivity for Perfectionists Summit. The conversation explores why so many intelligent, driven people struggle with procrastination, overthinking, and pressure — and why most solutions fail to address the real leverage point. Deborah asked some excellent questions to explore the Quality of Mind before psychology understanding. Rather than offering tools to manage thoughts, Piers points to something more fundamental: the understanding that our experience of life arises before psychology. Through practical examples, metaphors, and direct inquiry, the conversation explores how perfectionism, procrastination, and the “busy brain” are not problems to fix, but signals pointing to a deeper misunderstanding about the nature of the human experience. When this misunderstanding begins to dissolve, clarity, creativity, and ease naturally return — not through effort, but through insight. Key Discussion Takeaways Why trying to fix your thinking with more thinking is like trying to get dry in the shower without turning the water off The difference between application and implication when it comes to psychological insight Why perfectionists often feel stuck between control and procrastination How flow states reveal the absence of the “separate doer” The idea that our experience of life consists of thought, sensation, and perception Why psychological experiences can be real but never true How emotions and sensations act as indicators of how much we’re believing our thinking Why resisting feelings often intensifies them — and how simply allowing sensation dissolves the struggle What it means to explore the space before psychology, where clarity and possibility naturally arise Why the future we imagine through thinking is always finite, while the space before thought is infinite Key Chapters 00:00 – Trying to fix thinking with thinking02:15 – Why the problem isn’t the problem04:02 – The shower metaphor and the real leverage point05:45 – Flow state and the absence of the separate self09:30 – Procrastination and self-identification10:15 – There is choosing, but no chooser14:04 – Thought, sensation, and perception18:18 – Real, but never true22:00 – Sensation indicators and aperture27:30 – Why we avoid feeling28:00 – Leaning into sensation31:41 – What lies upstream of the busy brain34:31 – Infinite possibility before thought37:30 – It happens by subtraction38:40 – The Netflix screen metaphor41:39 – The case of mistaken identity44:12 – From invisible, to subtle, to obvious Curious? Want to know more? Explore Deborah Hurwitz’s Productivity for Perfectionists Summit, where this conversation originally took place. The summit brings together leading thinkers exploring fresh approaches to productivity, performance, and the pressures many high achievers place on themselves. Highly recommended. Explore all things Quality of Mind atwww.qualityofmind.biz 3-Minute Quality of Mind QuizDiscover how much your understanding of the mind may already be shaping your performance, peace, and potential. Audio Intro Short CourseA short introduction to the understanding behind Before Psychology. Get started with the e-book Follow Piers Thurston on LinkedIn for regular posts and reflections. Subscribe to the Quality of Mind YouTube channel for short insight videos exploring Before Psychology. TASTE THE MANGO — YouTubeAll about Direct Inquiry. Explore for yourself.
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