by Ratio
Ratio Talks is a podcast focusing on relationships, health and public policy. Past series covered community power and coping with the pandemic. The current series is focused on the potential for a relational social policy. It is hosted by Michael Little, a co-founder of Ratio. <br/><br/><a href="https://thisisratio.substack.com/s/ratio-talks?utm_medium=podcast">thisisratio.substack.com</a>
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June 11, 2026
<p>My guest on Ratio Talks this week has enjoyed a long and distinguished career in public health. He worked with Michael Marmot in his early efforts to translate research on health inequalities in public policy. I have enjoyed many conversations with Jason about how we recover the innovative zeal of early 20th Century public health leaders with their steadfast focus on the power of ‘we’. Jason has sought to apply this thinking as public health lead in three London boroughs, and in important reviews of public policy such as his <a target="_blank" href="https://www.jsna.info/sites/jsna.info/files/Journey%20of%20Recovery%20Needs%20Assessment_0.pdf">report</a> of learning from the Grenfell Tower fire that killed 72 people in 2017.</p><p>Jason was public health lead in the London Borough of Newham, and he has published his reflections in a new book <a target="_blank" href="https://hawksmoorpublishing.com/book/same-storm-different-boats-covid-community-and-how-we-come-together">Same Storm Different Boats</a>, available, as they say, in all good bookstores.</p><p>We are joined by Libby Sallnow, lead author of the Lancet Commission on <a target="_blank" href="https://www.thelancet.com/commissions-do/value-of-death">The Value of Death</a>, and Professor at the Marie Curie Palliative Care Research Department at University College London.</p><p>In the conversation, we refer to Jacqueline Rose’s <a target="_blank" href="https://fitzcarraldoeditions.com/books/the-plague/">The Plague</a>, a collection of essays on inequalities in and lack of respect for death.</p><p></p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://thisisratio.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1">thisisratio.substack.com</a>
May 28, 2026
<p>This episode of Ratio Talks is timed to coincide with the <a target="_blank" href="https://www.lloydsbankfoundation.org.uk/about-us/our-strategy/">launch of the new nine year strategy</a> for the Lloyds Bank Foundation. The episode is a continuation of the conversation with Matt Hyde, CEO of the Foundation. There are reasons for deep scepticism when it comes to philanthropy and strategic change (especially in the U.K.) But Matt has spent his first 18 months at Lloyds listening to his colleagues, to grantees and to people in communities around England and Wales. The result is a radical change in thinking, giving and collaborating.</p><p>Matt sets out some of the main tenets of the strategy in the podcast and then we spend some time kicking the tyres to see if it is ready for the road. We are particularly fortunate to be joined at the end by Patrick McCarthy, former President of the Annie E. Casey Foundation, the largest philanthropy working with children in the United States, Patrick is a big Matt Hyde fan, and that encourages him to be robust in his analysis of the strategy.</p><p>The Foundation is inviting people in England and Wales to contribute. If you have ideas about the strategy, ways it could be improved, things you are doing that may be relevant, or people and organisations that can help take the work forward, Matt would love to hear from you.</p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://thisisratio.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1">thisisratio.substack.com</a>
May 14, 2026
<p>Matt Hyde is the guest for the next two episodes of Ratio Talks. Matt is CEO of the Lloyds Bank Foundation for England and Wales, but made his name leading federations and confederations that allow power to remain with local actors. In this episode, Matt talks about his upbringing, how it shaped his outlook on civil society, and how this played out in his leadership of the National Union of Students, and The Scout Association. He also describes the story behind The Big Help Out, which will be running again this year from the 5th to the 8th of June. </p><p>We are fortunate also to be joined by Dame Julia Cleverdon, Chair of the National Lottery Community Fund, and old friend of Matt, to reflect on and draw out some broader themes from the conversation. </p><p>In the next episode of Ratio Talks, Matt reflects on the new strategy for the Lloyds Bank Foundation, the day after its public launch.</p> <br/><br/>This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit <a href="https://thisisratio.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1">thisisratio.substack.com</a>
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Ratio Talks is a podcast focusing on relationships, health and public policy. Past series covered community power and coping with the pandemic. The current series is focused on the potential for a relational social policy.
It is hosted by Michael Little, a co-founder of Ratio. <br/><br/><a href="https://thisisratio.substack.com/s/ratio-talks?utm_medium=podcast">thisisratio.substack.com</a>
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