In 2015, educators Chris Lehmann and Zac Chase published Building School 2.0: How to Create the Schools We Need. In this podcast, they revisit each thesis in the book and examine how their thinking (and the world) have changed or not after a decade of doing the work.
They can't all be winners. As Chris and Zac continue re-visiting their ideas and writing from 10 years ago, they meet their first regret. The idea? Yes, still important. The execution of the chapter? Well, this episode can serve as an upgraded replacement.
26 Aug 2025
Chapter 4: Build Modern Schools
It's the shortest chapter so far, and it's left Chris and Zac with a lot to consider as they examine whether what counted as modern schools ten years ago still fit the bill today. The answer? It's complicated.
20 Aug 2025
Chapter 3: Citizenship is More Important than the Workforce
Chris and Zac dive in to Chapter 3, wish they hadn't added "the" to the chapter title, and double down on the need for civics, citizenship, and government classes for all students.
12 Aug 2025
Chapter 2: We Must End Educational Colonialism
Examining their thinking on the ideas of Chapter 2, Chris and Zac reflect on its original focus on the no-excuses school movement compared to the larger colonialist mindset growing in some larger conversations about the purpose and future of public education and teaching "other people's children."
5 Aug 2025
Chapter 1: Schools Should Mirror the World as We Believe It Could Be
On the exact 10th anniversary it was published, Chris and Zac revisit the first chapter of Building School 2.0 and double down on the importance of school as a public good. They also examine where they underestimated the onslaught of the attention economy and the tension between capitalism and the potentially liberating effects of technology in education.
29 Jul 2025
Coming Soon: RE:BUILDING SCHOOL 2.0
Re:Building School 2.0 is a podcast and an audiobook and a reflection. Co-hosts and co-authors Chris Lehmann and Zac Chase will work chapter-by-chapter through their book Building School 2.0: How to create the schools we need, and examine how their thinking has evolved or solidified a decade after they published their book.
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