Real Creative Leadership

About Real Creative Leadership

Real Creative Leadership is building a community to address the issues, challenges, and benefits of creative leadership. Join us as we discuss topics and share strategies that will help us all become better creative leaders. Real Creative Leadership is hosted by Adam Morgan and produced by The Stoke Group, a full-service digital marketing agency that specializes in content marketing, video, and interactive experiences.

Publisher

The Stoke Group - Adam Morgan

Category

arts

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

25 Mar 2020

Latest episode

23 Oct 2026

Latest episodes

12 of 73 episodes have a transcript.

1. 

   23 Oct 2026TRANSCRIPT

   B2B Marketing Doesn’t Have to Be Boring — With Chris Koehler, CMO, Twilio

   Twilio CMO Chris Koehler and host Adam Morgan discuss fostering a creative B2B marketing culture that embraces risk and AI.

2. 

   17 Aug 2026TRANSCRIPT

   The Builder Mindset: The Creative Leader’s Advantage in the Age of AI — with Jennifer Kattula, Global CMO, Microsoft Advertising

   Successful AI implementation is more than just a software download. For Microsoft’s Jennifer Kattula, it’s about creating a robust framework that gives teams the structure they need to safely test the boundaries AI is helping us expand. Together with Adam Morgan, she explains why creative leaders have the responsibility to set the standard for AI implementation and how to mitigate risk without sacrificing creativity.

3. 

   26 Jun 2026TRANSCRIPT

   Getting to ROI with Experiences — with Jennifer Gardner, Creative Director of Event Experiences, ServiceNow

   Jennifer Gardner, Creative Director of Event Experiences at ServiceNow, shares with Adam Morgan how purpose-driven, human-centered event design creates memorable brand experiences that deliver measurable ROI.

Inside a recent episode

B2B Marketing Doesn’t Have to Be Boring — With Chris Koehler, CMO, Twilio

Published 23 Oct 2026 · Transcript excerpt

[…] And you certainly have had a varied past of a generalist being able to fill in a lot of different roles, which has been pretty fascinating. But you've also said that a CMO has to think like a business leader first. And I think that's been very apparent here at Twilio. Tell us more about that. What does that mean to have a business leader mindset first rather than just your specialty? It's very easy for marketers quickly to get enamored with all their own metrics. where we're in it every day. We're talking about ICPs and MQLs, you know, all of the craft of marketing. But when you get to the exec level and you're sitting in a room with all of your peers that run product and sales and finance, they don't know what you're talking about, right? […]

Who has been a guest on Real Creative Leadership

Names identified in recent episode analyses. Showing up to five guests.

• Chris Koehler
• Jennifer Gardner
• Catharina Walker Eure
• John Renz
• Debbie Millman

Reach and audience

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Apple Podcasts (US)

5.0 / 5

21 ratings

Spotify

5.0 / 5

32 ratings

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