Welcome to the Real Returns podcast, where we learn how real investments can make a real impact. Join your hosts, Andrew and Dan, as they share stories and interview business leaders on how real estate and other forms of investment can create meaningful change for individuals and communities around the world.
Real Returns
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Welcome to the Real Returns podcast, where we learn how real investments can make a real impact. Join your hosts, Andrew and Dan, as they share stories and interview business leaders on how real estate and other forms of investment can create meaningful change for individuals and communities around the world.
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Recent Episodes
June 24, 2026
S8E9 - Season 8 Recap
<p>In the Season 8 finale, Andrew and Dan look back on an incredible season of guests. Four years in, the hosts reflect on what makes this podcast meaningful: the honest, humanizing stories of entrepreneurs who aren't afraid to talk about what it really takes to find success.</p> <p>Greg Furer:<br /> <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lg8fgAuI_g">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lg8fgAuI_g</a><br /> Solving the "Cheesecake Factory problem" in financial planning, and why simplicity and trust matter more than the size of the inheritance.</p> <p>Adam Taki:<br /> <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZVNOkqDbZY">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZVNOkqDbZY</a><br /> Why tax lien investing isn't what you think, and how an overlooked niche turns non-performing assets into performing ones.</p> <p>Patrick Colletti:<br /> <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wtkc17P5vk">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wtkc17P5vk</a><br /> What it means to be a "refounder," and the leadership lessons that only come from building the same business twice.</p> <p>Dr. Dinakar Golla:<br /> <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JP27rWDkEw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JP27rWDkEw</a><br /> What medicine and investing share when it comes to precision, patience, and trust.</p> <p>Mary Fearon:<br /> <a href= "https://youtu.be/KgMOCaX7Slo">https://youtu.be/KgMOCaX7Slo</a><br /> Why people do their best work when the work actually means something to them.</p> <p>Hisham Albahar:<br /> <a href= "https://youtu.be/VyWwDGxQ-0o">https://youtu.be/VyWwDGxQ-0o</a><br /> Navigating geopolitical complexity and leading with vulnerability in a world that rarely slows down.</p> <p>Afif Ghannoum:<br /> <a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vUnLmlc0Xw">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vUnLmlc0Xw</a><br /> Betting on science over hype, and the personal health journey that made this conversation so candid.</p> <p>-</p> <p>Connect with Us!</p> <p>Birgo Capital:<br /> Website: <a href= "https://birgocapital.com">https://birgocapital.com</a><br /> LinkedIn: <a href= "https://linkedin.com/company/birgocapital">https://linkedin.com/company/birgocapital</a></p> <p>Hosts:<br /> Andrew Reichert: <a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewreichert/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewreichert/</a><br /> Dan Croce: <a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielcroce/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielcroce/</a></p> <p>Subscribe to our NEW 'Investing on Purpose' newsletter! (it won't be NEW after this season!)<br /> <a href= "https://realreturnspodcast.com">https://realreturnspodcast.com</a></p>
June 10, 2026
S8E8 - Afif Ghannoum | Building Trust in the World of Supplements
<p>In this episode of Real Returns, Andrew sits down with Afif Ghannoum, founder and CEO of CPG Radar, a platform that uses big data and AI to help consumer brands accelerate innovation in the supplement space. Afif pulls back the curtain on how the supplement industry actually works, from the brands getting it right to the ones cutting dangerous corners, and explains why the data behind what you put in your body matters more than most people realize. He and Andrew also dig into the 85/15 principle, the hidden challenge of AI hallucinations in CPG data, and where the science on ingredients like peptides and creatine gummies actually stands.</p> <p>Timestamps:<br /> 00:00 - Intro: Real Returns Season 8<br /> 01:07 - Meet Afif Ghannoum<br /> 01:30 - Supplement industry boom: $72.9B and growing<br /> 03:35 - What impact really means in CPG<br /> 05:00 - The 85/15 principle explained<br /> 06:29 - Omega-3s, fish oil, and the AI data normalization problem<br /> 09:32 - Quality, purity, and what's really in your supplements<br /> 14:02 - How to spot a trustworthy brand<br /> 16:55 - The rise of TikTok brands and ingredient shortcuts<br /> 18:13 - Peptides, postbiotics, and the science vs. hype gap<br /> 20:20 - Creatine gummies: consumer demand vs. real efficacy<br /> 23:28 - How to reach Afif</p> <p>"Many supplements are not cheap, but I will tell you, there is really something about you kind of get what you pay for. That's why anytime you see whether it's a private label product or like a super value brand...if you're seeing everyone else is like $30, $40 and these guys are $9.99...you got to do the math." — Afif Ghannoum</p> <p>Connect with Afif:<br /> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/afifghannoum/<br /> Website: cpgradar.com<br /> —<br /> For more insights on purposeful investing, subscribe to Real Returns on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube.</p> <p>Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/real-returns/id1642761377<br /> Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5tx0jOW8J1h3xsEWLuVPzm<br /> YouTube: youtube.com/@realreturns<br /> —<br /> Subscribe to our NEW monthly newsletter: http://www.realreturnspodcast.com</p> <p>Want to see your question answered on the show? Submit a question via our Q&A form: https://forms.gle/Fy9E6H7BTpzhGPueA</p>
May 27, 2026
S8E7 - Hisham Albahar | Logistics and Geopolitics in the Middle East
<p>In this episode of Real Returns, Andrew sits down with Hisham Albahar, CEO of three logistics companies operating in the UAE and GCC region. Hisham shares a candid firsthand account of running a logistics business in the middle of an active conflict, how supply chain disruption rippled across an entire region, and why he believes scale and consolidation are the keys to modernizing a fragmented, century-old industry. He and Andrew also discover they're running nearly identical playbooks toward the same billion-dollar goal!</p> <p>Timestamps:<br /> 00:00 - Intro: Real Returns Season 8<br /> 01:07 - Meet Hisham Albahar<br /> 01:23 - How Andrew and Hisham connected through YPO<br /> 03:15 - Living and working through conflict in Dubai<br /> 05:24 - Media perception vs. reality on the ground<br /> 06:40 - Supply chain disruption: Strait of Hormuz and airport closures<br /> 08:44 - Why logistics is invisible until it breaks<br /> 10:02 - Touching people's lives through delivery<br /> 11:15 - AI in logistics: WhatsApp bots, route optimization, and dev efficiency<br /> 14:15 - Buying and consolidating logistics companies<br /> 15:43 - The 2030 vision: a billion in assets under management<br /> 18:24 - Economies of scale and the 1+1=4 principle<br /> 19:49 - How to reach Hisham</p> <p>"Throughout the Strait of Hormuz, you have Jebel Ali, which is one of the largest ports in the region, you've got the Qatar ports, you've got the Kuwaiti ports, you've got the Bahraini ports. So, all of those countries have been heavily impacted." — Hisham Albahar</p> <p>Connect with Hisham:<br /> Email: hisham@elite-co.com<br /> LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hisham-albahar-1755a824/<br /> —<br /> For more insights on purposeful investing, subscribe to Real Returns on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube.</p> <p>Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...<br /> Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5tx0jOW...<br /> YouTube: / @realreturns </p> <p>—<br /> Subscribe to our NEW monthly newsletter: http://www.realreturnspodcast.com</p> <p>Want to see your question answered on the show? Submit a question via our Q&A form: https://forms.gle/Fy9E6H7BTpzhGPueA</p>
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