
Real Talk Payments
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Podcast Overview
<p>Real Talk Payments gets to the heart of what matters in payments - stripping away filters, cutting through buzzwords, and grounding every conversation in real expertise and experience. Pagos delivers candid discussions that educate, challenge assumptions and spotlight the realities every payments professional needs to understand. It’s bold, transparent, and made for those who want substance over hype.</p>
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Publishing Since
2/7/2026
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Recent Episodes

June 10, 2026
Payments in the AI Era
In this episode of Real Talk Payments, Kapil Mokhat is joined by Julie Ferguson, co-founder of the Merchant Risk Council, along with Pagos co-founders Klas Bäck and Albert Drouart, for a timely conversation about what it means to operate payments and fraud in the AI era. The discussion explores how AI is already changing the work of payments and fraud professionals, not by replacing people outright, but by reshaping the skills, workflows, and expectations required to succeed. Julie shares her...

May 8, 2026
Why Payment Optimization Is a Discipline, Not a Project
In this episode of Real Talk Payments, Kapil Mokhat is joined by Pagos co-founders Klas Bäck and Albert Drouart for a candid conversation about one of the most overlooked areas in payments: cost optimization. The episode focuses on four common myths that keep merchants from truly understanding and improving their payment costs. First, they address the belief that lowering costs is simply about negotiating a better processor rate. Kapil, Klas, and Albert explain why that approach only scratche...

March 24, 2026
Unbundling Payments in the Agentic Era
In this episode of Real Talk Payments, host Kapil Mokhat is joined by Albert Drouart, CTO of Pagos, along with Colin Luce, CEO and Co-founder of Basis Theory, and James Armstead, CTO of Basis Theory, for a lively conversation about where payments infrastructure is headed next. What starts as a discussion about bundled versus unbundled payments quickly turns into a bigger look at merchant control, data ownership, orchestration, vaulting, and the role AI may play in the future of commerce. ...
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- What is Real Talk Payments?
<p>Real Talk Payments gets to the heart of what matters in payments - stripping away filters, cutting through buzzwords, and grounding every conversation in real expertise and experience. Pagos delivers candid discussions that educate, challenge assumptions and spotlight the realities every payments professional needs to understand. It’s bold, transparent, and made for those who want substance over hype.</p> - How often does this podcast release new episodes?
This podcast updates daily.
- Where can I listen to this podcast?
This podcast is available on 4 platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and more. You can also use the RSS feed directly.
- Does this podcast accept guests?
Yes, this podcast regularly features guests.
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