Everyone has a story about a rebellion. It might be a small risk that ended up shaping the way you do business, or it might be the day you rage quit your job and started an empire.
Join Dawn Sizer, an MSP owner and her guests as they tell their story of rebellion, challenges they face in their business and life, and how to overcome them.
Each episode is packed with powerful information to help you grow your business, avoid costly mistakes, and learn from other revolutionaries in their fields.
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Three Automations in a Trench Coat: What AI Really Means for Your Business.
Dawn talks with Roddy Bergeron, Cybersecurity Technical Fellow at Sherweb, about why businesses keep buying cybersecurity and still struggle with it. Roddy lays out his "four P's" of a security program (people, policy, process, and technology, in that order) and explains why a tool-first approach leads to misconfigured, underused security.
They dig into how MSPs talk to clients in "nerd" instead of business outcomes, why clients rarely take risk seriously until something happens, and why security is an ongoing conversation instead of a one-time project.
The second half tackles AI: why every organization is already using it whether they admit it or not, how to start with policy and guardrails, and why most "AI projects" are really just automations.
If your team hasn't started that conversation yet, 3EC's free Executive AI Briefing Series walks you through it in 15 minutes a week: 3EC Executive AI Briefing Series (https://3rdelementconsulting.com/resources/executive-ai-briefing-series).
Roddy closes with a reminder to stay curious, inspired by Cliff Stoll's DEF CON talk: DEF CON 34: Stalking the Wily Hacker, 40 Years Later (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=656058JxTM0).
29 Sept 2026
I'm Too Small to Be a Target (And Other Expensive Myths)
Dawn sits down with Robert Sharp, President and CEO of HENNGE Inc., the US arm of Japan's leading SMB cloud identity security company. They dig into why identity has become the new front door to every business, how attackers shifted from breaking in to logging in once COVID pushed everyone to the cloud, and why MFA alone isn't the finish line. They also cover the licensing gap that leaves many small businesses without conditional access, the "I'm too small to be a target" myth (illustrated by Robert's daughter's coffee shop), supply chain risk, offboarding blind spots, and where authentication is headed in the next five years.
5 Aug 2026
How Do You Know An MSP Is Mature Enough for Your Business?
Dawn Sizer interviews Josh Hohbein about what business owners should look for when evaluating a Managed Service Provider (MSP). They discuss the surprisingly low barrier to entry in the MSP industry, the risks of inexperienced providers managing critical business systems, and why operational maturity matters more than company size or years in business.
Ask your MSP two simple questions: How are you keeping my data safe? and What is your incident response plan? The quality of those answers will tell you more than any sales presentation ever will.
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