Recovery Room: For Fame, F*Ups & Fixing it
Jennis Williamson and JC Snooke explore through candid conversations: success, failure, lessons learned, and the realities behind public-facing careers. It’s honest, reflective, and story-driven. Focusing less on polished success stories and more on the experiences that actually shape people.
Guests within the entertainment industry and other public facing careers talk about their journey, the moments that didn’t go to plan, and what they've learned along the way.
Makeup Artist to the Rich & Famous on Rude Influencers & Quiet Luxury
Francois “Fafa” de Klerk, the celebrity makeup artist and stylist from kykNET's Stralend, joins Recovery Room to talk about losing 79kg, overcoming personal struggles and the reality of working with South Africa's rich and famous.
Known for his work transforming appearances on Stralend, Fafa reveals how the experience also became a turning point in his own life. After losing his mother and sister, struggling with his health and putting his clients' needs before his own, he decided it was time to make a change.
Fafa opens up about grief, self-acceptance, mental health and learning to prioritise himself. But there's plenty of laughter along the way.
Own the Fame.
Learn from the F@ck Ups.
Keep on Fixing It
18 Oct 2026
She Started Acting at 52... Now She’s on Binnelanders
Matie van Graan, better known to many South Africans as Boerboeltannie, joins Recovery Room to talk about starting her acting career at 52, becoming a familiar face on Binnelanders and discovering an unexpected talent for comedy.
From working in nature conservation to becoming a social media personality, stand-up comedian and actress, Matie's journey into entertainment was anything but conventional.
And if you know Matie, you'll know that no conversation with her ever goes quite according to plan.
Own the Fame
Learn from the F@ck Ups
Keep on fixing it
11 Oct 2026
From Functioning Alcoholic to 8 years Sober
Natasja Jacobs opens up about alcoholism, eight years of sobriety, mental health, heartbreak and the reality behind her career on South African television.
Known for her roles in 7de Laan, Song vir Katryn, Egoli and Diepe Waters, Natasja has spent decades entertaining audiences. But behind the familiar characters is a deeply personal story of addiction, recovery and finding herself again.
In this episode of Recovery Room, Natasja joins Jennis and JC for an emotional and unfiltered conversation about the struggles that shaped her life.She recalls hiding alcohol from those around her, the moment her three-year-old son asked whether she was okay, the devastating car accident that interrupted her acting career, and the night she finally decided to stop drinking.
From the characters we've watched on television to the woman behind them, Natasja shares what it takes to survive, rebuild and keep moving forward.
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Own the Fame
Learn from the F@ck Ups!
Keep on Fixing It
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