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About Recurring Character
A podcast about the roles we never stop playing. recurringcharacter.substack.com (https://recurringcharacter.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast)
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- Holly Friend
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- society & culture
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- en
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- First episode
- 24 Mar 2026
- Latest episode
- 16 Oct 2026
Latest episodes
7 episodes in the feed.

16 Oct 2026
#12: The Uncomplex Character w/ David McGovern
Today I’m joined by my friend David McGovern, a writer and theatre-maker based in Dublin. We make a case for the Uncomplex Character: a composed, unbothered, private person who has no problem being misunderstood. In fact, they delight in it. To set the scene, David and I remember the ‘complex female characters’ of the 2010s whose messy bedrooms and oozing relatability we are so over. We also have beef over Beef, make our stance on the traumatic backstory very clear, pay tribute to our forefathers Samantha Jones and Joanna Lumley, and predict a number of cultural shifts: from being seen to unseen, anxious to avoidant, deep to shallow. We also tell you where to find these characters – from video games to Booker-winning literature, the outskirts of a friendship group to a women’s prison in the 1920s – and give tips on how you, too, can become one. Check out David’s website (https://davidm.tv/) and follow him on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/davidm.govern/)! Show Notes: Sex and the City (1998–2004) The Sopranos (1999–2007) The Art of Being Unreachable (https://themuseandthemelody.substack.com/p/the-art-of-being-unreachable) by Alexis McElroy Do you feel like a person? (https://www.instagram.com/p/DZr024OCIry/?hl=en&img_index=2) by Nicola Dinan for Polyester Outline (https://www.faber.co.uk/product/9780571346769-outline/?srsltid=AU7gw4UfDW1NQCK_tBKjel9r4vKrqFX1e0RAnuGnPC0Io69ysYTEB-s5) by Rachel Cusk Intimacies (https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/440340/intimacies-by-kitamura-katie/9781529112078) by Katie Kitamura Flesh (https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/420940/flesh-by-szalay-david/9781529932423) by David Szalay Elif Batuman on (https://eliflife.substack.com/p/some-things-ive-learned-from-miranda)Flesh (https://eliflife.substack.com/p/some-things-ive-learned-from-miranda) The Drama (2026) Beef (2023–26) Beef, The Drama and the New Marriage Plot (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/beef-the-drama-and-the-new-marriage-plot/id1704902371?i=1000761780993) by Critics At Large Fleabag (2016–19) Adjacent Characters: the Eternal Adolescent (https://recurringcharacter.substack.com/p/character-4-the-eternal-adolescent); the Diarist (https://recurringcharacter.substack.com/p/character-1-the-diarist-part); the Airhead Canon Event: Jemima Kirke (https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fdiw117h44rsb1.jpg) and Joanna Lumley (https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFVoEw_IN-f/?hl=en) change our brain chemistry Backrooms (2026) Chicago (2002) Other Uncomplex Characters mentioned: Claire Underwood in House of Cards, Super Hans in Peep Show, Kramer in Seinfeld, Diane Lockhart in The Good Wife, Elle Woods in Legally Blonde, Big in Sex and the City The Stupidity Report (https://stupid.protein.xyz/) by Protein Regularmaxxing (https://www.businessinsider.com/gen-z-exclusive-restaurants-regularmaxxing-central-perk-2026-1?utm_source=Iterable&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Campaign%20created%20on%20Fri,%20Jan%2023,%202026%2011:01%20AM), or Gen Z discover routine Caroline and Dolly on Sentimental in the City (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/sentimental-in-the-city-1-sex-the-city-season-one/id1444729607?i=1000509615729)

25 Aug 2026
#11: The Online Boyfriend (Part I)
In this episode, we time-travel to the late-2010s, an era where the hottest thing a man could be was Very Online. From the philosophical YouTuber in Lena Dunham's Tiny Furniture (2010) to the self-styled literary fuckboy that is Sean Thor Conroe, in the first part of this two-part essay we ask the question: who is the Online Boyfriend, and why did we spend so long waiting for his texts? Digressions include: the Beta men of the Vice era, the allure of the online troll, and the sexual disinterest crisis that I am linking to laptop addiction with absolutely no evidence. Join me in this collective memorial of the Online Boyfriend: a character who may have died in 2019 but still lives on in the overactive imaginations of Millennial bloggers everywhere. Show Notes: Subscribe to my Substack (https://recurringcharacter.substack.com/p/11-the-online-boyfriend-part-i) Fake Accounts by Lauren Oyler (2021) Tiny Furniture (2010) Girls (2012-17) The I in Internet (https://www.cccb.org/en/w/articles/the-i-in-the-internet) by Jia Tolentino Adjacent characters: The Hetero-optimist (https://recurringcharacter.substack.com/p/character-3-the-hetero-optimist?utm_source=publication-search), The Losers (https://recurringcharacter.substack.com/p/character-7-the-losers?utm_source=publication-search), The Femcel (https://recurringcharacter.substack.com/p/character-8-the-femcel-part-i?utm_source=publication-search) Washington Post poll (https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/) Bini Yamin on SubwayTakes (https://www.instagram.com/p/Db_EYQPqOja/?hl=en) Fuccboi by Sean Thor Conroe (2022) Has Fuccboi killed literature? (https://unherd.com/2022/02/has-fuccboi-killed-literature/) via Unherd

5 Jul 2026
#10: The English Eccentric w/ Sebastian Lloyd
Welcome back to Recurring Character. Today I’m joined by Sebastian Lloyd (https://substack.com/profile/150535225-sebastian-lloyd), a writer from South London, to ask the question: is Englishness inherently weird? We discuss how Britain’s colonial hangover has shaped the ‘plucky’ national character, whether Dunkirk is the Roman Empire for blokes, and how TikTok is complicating neurodiversity discourse. Along the way, we stop to take shots at Seb’s old workplace, Noel Fielding, the entirety of Soho, Francis Bourgeois, and Brexit. We also dig into real-life London eccentrics, such as Hackney’s mole man and a Nunhead Elvis impersonator, characters who appear to answer a generational yearning for Authentic Community™ in a city at the mercy of American sweet shops, noise complaints, and slop bowl salad bars. You can now listen to this episode, and others, on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/033vUXPwQcteZnCaBB8Ncs?si=c95987345cd54480) and Apple (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/recurring-character/id6787489144)! Come with us now on a journey through time and space… Thanks for reading Recurring Character! Subscribe for free to receive new posts. Show Notes: * Pinterest Board (https://pin.it/2m24rxZaL) * The English Eccentrics (https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/839814.The_English_Eccentrics) by Edith Sitwell * Seb’s Substack post (https://sebbylloyd.substack.com/p/i-dont-think-nasa-could-do-a-better) on Steve Bennett * Henry Paget (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2jjnky5leo) / Madfabulous (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4931958/) (2026) * The Mole Man of Hackney (https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDgpywYs0BW/?hl=en) / Karen Russo (https://www.karenrusso.co.uk/en/gallery/47) * Paddy Power World Cup advert (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNn6AnXEpD8) * Character #9: The Free Spirit (https://recurringcharacter.substack.com/p/character-9-the-free-spirit-w-emma) * Rethinking Eccentricity (https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/rethinking-eccentricity) by Miranda Gill * Soho eccentrics: Philip Sallon (https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=9e14c540528a302f&sxsrf=APpeQnti4MjOeS73cZNbJX31k-MtB8Uwqg:1782831133568&udm=2&fbs=ABfTbFVyMZGZf1hfvX9uKjN_-G8c4u0nXx4bEIpwm1lnNH832QGGMdFXpDyzkQgEdtB8w9yzFzSdXH7Mdzvg95O9jQL9wvxBtUg_f0TE743OAxJfQGi-cyLRW5b2_CnJwFFoKPiLejAMimR-r9JRoQ99KiV22AqeihGWjvE6XNhp1I5eobYS19BPL6wUS9WqGeNLap0f6oZtLM5tsUKSzOTDkrUCMZDb-A&q=philip+sallon&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjqpaTDm6-VAxWxdUEAHUiFGR8QtKgLegQIFxAB&biw=1272&bih=752&dpr=1.8) & Thierry Alexandre (https://www.thierryalexandre.com/about) * Jonathan Nunn on ‘Sohoification’ (https://www.dezeen.com/2022/09/27/sohofication-strangling-city-centres-jonathan-nunn-opinion/) * Eccentric Soho spots: All Is Joy (https://allisjoysoho.com/), Bradley’s Spanish Bar (https://maps.app.goo.gl/W5HEtm2mkMeZvrvZA) & Bar Italia (https://maps.app.goo.gl/sJakcPwkszGm9mVE9) * The Mighty Boosh (https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b007wds5/the-mighty-boosh) (2003–2007) * Withnail & I (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094336/) (1987) * Wallace & Gromit (https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/1FF1nttW1vQqgr8VQrhfC9F/wallace-and-gromit-films) (1989–Present) * Gromit’s upcoming autobiography (https://www.aardman.com/latest-news/2026/june/aardman-and-ebury-announce-the-launch-of-gromit-autobiography-grand/) * Richard E. Grant’s Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/richard.e.grant/?hl=en) * Saltburn (http://google.com/search?q=saltbuirn&oq=saltbuirn&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIQCAEQLhiRAhixAxiABBiKBTINCAIQABiRAhiABBiKBTINCAMQABiRAhiABBiKBTINCAQQABiRAhiABBiKBTILCAUQLhgKGAsYgAQyFwgGEC4YChgLGIMBGK8BGMcBGLEDGIAEMg4IBxAAGAoYCxixAxiABDIRCAgQLhgKGAsYrwEYxwEYgATSAQc5MDVqMGo0qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) (2023) * SpaceX goes public (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrk21wnvy9o) * Scrapheap Challenge (https://www.channel4.com/programmes/scrapheap-challenge) (1998–2010) * Poetry and the Turning World: Work (https://open.spotify.com/episode/57zmnXVTFBEusFsoP4kJ6g?si=hIYyWugQSs-IY9ymtYynoQ&nd=1&dlsi=8476b8b27af44fa4) by the LRB * Francis Bourgeois (https://www.instagram.com/francis_bourgeois43/?hl=en-gb) * Mission to Space with Francis Bourgeois (https://www.channel4.com/programmes/mission-to-space-with-francis-bourgeois) (2026) * Noel Fielding on Talk Art (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/noel-fielding/id1439567112?i=1000492436502) * British eccentricity is dying out (https://archive.is/VrX5R) by the Telegraph * The King of SE15 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UAj3UBJ0pQ) (2021) * New York Nico (https://www.instagram.com/newyorknico/?hl=en) * Character #2: The Branded Couple (https://recurringcharacter.substack.com/p/character-2-the-branded-couple-part-70f) * There Ain’t No Black in the Union Jack (https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/T/bo3620902.html) by Paul Gilroy (1991) * Year of the Rat (https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/468856/year-of-the-rat-by-shukman-harry/9781529953213) by Harry Shukman (2025) * Vittles (https://www.vittlesmagazine.com/) * Caffs not Cafes (https://www.instagram.com/caffs_not_cafes/?hl=en) and Wooden City (https://woodencity.substack.com/) by Isaac Rangaswami This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit recurringcharacter.substack.com (https://recurringcharacter.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

12 Jun 2026
#9: The Free Spirit w/ Emma Glenn Baker
Welcome back to Recurring Character. Today I’m joined by a guest – my friend Emma Glenn Baker (https://www.instagram.com/emmaglennbaker/?hl=en)! You may know Emma as the host of STARGIRL (https://open.spotify.com/show/6VFykudaxSh0XNLzcL2YmS), a podcast about girls who stand out, and she’s also a personal trainer and health goddess at large. In this episode, we discuss the undeniable allure of the Free Spirit, charting her journey from whimsical romcom girlfriend to self-authored internet forest nymph. In the age of the Oura ring and corporate burnout, the Free Spirit seems to offer us an alternative mode of living. Ripe with sensuality, sex appeal and an array of halter tops, she lives a life of nourishment and goodness, rising with the sun, bathing in waterfalls, and relying on her intuition over Google Maps. She also releases us from our technological hysteria, leading us down a desire path that is unencumbered by fads, political ideologies, and, well, footwear. At the end of the episode, there's an editor's note from me, interrogating my own feelings about the Free Spirit, and the sense of suspicion I can't seem to shake... Show Notes: * Almost Famous (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181875/) (2000) * 50 First Dates (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0343660/?ref_=fn_t_1) (2004) * Along Came Polly (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0343135/?ref_=fn_i_1) (2004) * Vicky Christina Barcelona (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0497465/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_4_tt_3_nm_5_in_0_q_vicky%20christ) (2008) * 500 Days of Summer (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1022603/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_500%20days%20of)(2009) * The Blithe Spirit (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlitheSpirit) by TV Tropes * Manic Pixie Dream Girl (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ManicPixieDreamGirl) by TV Tropes * ‘What time was I born’ (https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Ffdcyvbs2py9b1.jpg) meme * Girls (https://play.hbomax.com/show/2262487a-fc52-4543-901d-c07d92ad8844?season=1) (2012–2016) * Hippies (https://open.spotify.com/episode/38SA4ojNSrhOo8p5SxRNyQ) by Dear Americana * Faye Wong’s pixie crop (https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHtEGh0NbC0/https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHtEGh0NbC0/) in Chungking Express (1994) * Tao Lin’s Substack (https://taolin.substack.com/) * Joel Golby (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e4-elizabeth-gilberts-eat-pray-love/id1726189462?i=1000645928134) on Eat Pray Love (2006) * Health Gossip (https://www.healthgossip.news/) * Emma’s interview (https://open.spotify.com/episode/076NnKL9GslYsCZYp13b9X) with Lily Sperry, founder of Health Gossip * Sigh Swoon (https://www.instagram.com/sighswoon/?hl=en) * Hitomi Mochizuki (https://www.instagram.com/yaknowme_hitomi/?hl=en) * Emma’s STARGIRL episode (https://open.spotify.com/episode/75owbxymKINOPWUEz3LXsc) on Hitomi * Sotce (https://www.instagram.com/sotce/?hl=en) * Kamryn Renae (https://www.instagram.com/kamryn35/) * Kamryn Renae on Getting Glam to Hike the Pacific Crest Trail (https://www.interviewmagazine.com/beauty/kamryn-renae-face-card-hiking-beauty-acne-feet) by Interview This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit recurringcharacter.substack.com (https://recurringcharacter.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

19 May 2026
#8: The Femcel: Part II
Show Notes: * he needs me (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWcLVmAsqh8) by The Femcels * Post-Femcel Femininity (https://virginiaweaver.substack.com/p/no-caps-feminine-vs-all-caps-feminine?r=evoes&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true) by Virginia Karnstein (https://substack.com/profile/256147635-virginia-karnstein) * I’m A Fan (https://granta.com/products/im-a-fan/) (2022) by Sheena Patel * Fandom with Sheena Patel (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/fandom-with-sheena-patel/id1000387053?i=1000570905566) by Literary Friction * Pillion (https://a24films.com/films/pillion) (2025) * Sayaka Murata: The Cosmic Novelist (https://thegentlewoman.co.uk/library/sayaka-murata) by The Gentlewoman * Convenience Store Woman (https://granta.com/products/convenience-store-woman/) (2016) by Sayaka Murata * Vanishing World (https://granta.com/products/vanishing-world/) (2025) by Sayaka Murata * Sayaka Murata Inhabits A Planet of Her Own (http://google.com/url?q=https://www.wired.com/story/writer-sayaka-murata-inhabits-a-planet-of-her-own/&sa=D&source=docs&ust=1779116703835404&usg=AOvVaw1orFHY87ELdfncZqbou1Ww) by Wired * ‘Marriage feels like a hostage situation, and motherhood a curse’ (https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/apr/19/marriage-feels-like-a-hostage-situation-and-motherhood-a-curse-japanese-author-sayaka-murata) – Sayaka profiled in The Guardian * The rise of mixed-orientation marriage (https://www.instagram.com/p/DYZ9pUrjogk/) by Impact * What’s going on with straight women? (https://www.instagram.com/p/DYd0GwkgWK8/?img_index=1&igsh=ODV0YTlicG5hcGRm) by Dee Salmin * To Rest Our Minds and Bodies (https://www.lesfugitives.com/the-quick-brown-fox/harriet-armstrong-to-rest-our-minds) (2025) by Harriet Armstrong * Mimetic theory of desire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mimetic_theory) by René Girard * Doomers in Love (https://thepointmag.com/examined-life/doomers-in-love/) by Mana Afsari This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit recurringcharacter.substack.com (https://recurringcharacter.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

14 May 2026
#8: The Femcel: Part I
Show Notes: * Femcel (https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Femcel_(anime_subculture)) by Aesthetics Fandom Wiki * r/psychologyofsex “Femcels” (https://www.reddit.com/r/psychologyofsex/comments/1agcvr3/femcels_are_the_feminine_version_of_incels_minus/) * The Rise of Femcels (https://open.spotify.com/episode/4QXbbKvhOqh7w4w4bEdZFy) by The Hook Up * The woman who founded the ‘incel’ movement (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45284455) by BBC * Character #3: The Hetero-optimist (https://recurringcharacter.substack.com/p/character-3-the-hetero-optimist) * My thoughts on the ‘having a boyfriend is embarrassing’ discourse (https://recurringcharacter.substack.com/p/afterthoughts-autumn) * She’s Not Celibate – She’s Boysober (https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/03/style/boysober-celibacy-hope-woodward.html) by The New York Times * 2025 Was the Year Single Women Chose Themselves (https://www.vogue.co.uk/article/2025-was-the-year-single-women-chose-themselves) by Vogue * r/FemaleDatingStrategy (https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/) * Everyone is Beautiful and No One is Horny (https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/) by RS Benedict * The Sex Recession (https://www.instagram.com/reel/DX7HylrxKfP/?igsh=MWF2d2x2bThyYzdzaw%3D%3D) by Andrea Mizrahi * Rise of the SHEconomy (https://www.morganstanley.com/ideas/womens-impact-on-the-economy#:~:text=Based%20on%20Census%20Bureau%20historical,up%20from%2041%25%20in%202018.&text=What%27s%20driving%20this%20trend%3F,in%20their%2050s%20and%2060s) by Morgan Stanley * Married moms twice as likely to be be ‘very happy’ than single childless women (https://ifstudies.org/press-release/married-moms-twice-as-likely-to-be-very-happy-than-single-or-childless-women) by YouGov * Materialists (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30253473/) (2025) * Sophie as a tragic character (https://www.tiktok.com/@marmaryeesa2026/video/7516282090485239082) by @marmaryeesa2026 * i want to be a girl in love again (https://substack.com/home/post/p-185540182?source=queue) by Ismene Ormonde This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit recurringcharacter.substack.com (https://recurringcharacter.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)

24 Mar 2026
#7: The Losers
Show notes: * TV Tropes: The Loser archetype (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/LoserArchetype) * The Loser Canon (https://crookedmarquee.com/the-loser-canon-why-we-need-more-movies-about-bums-deadbeats-drifters-and-barflies/) by Crooked Marquee * Losercore (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/ep-111-losercore/id1557564982?i=1000702528153) by Nymphet Alumni * The Mainstreaming of Loserdom (https://tellthebeees.substack.com/p/the-mainstreaming-of-loserdom) by Tell the Bees * Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk at fashion week (https://www.storyboard18.com/trending/front-row-to-red-carpet-why-billionaires-are-showing-up-everywhere-92784.htm) * Superbad (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0829482/) (2007) * An Oral History of Superbad (https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/08/superbad-oral-history?srsltid=AfmBOopmpiJb2RVx1rwggf-9MY4rsQ4eU5amsXFvKkPI1wDmCU-E4u7C) by Vanity Fair * The Inbetweeners (https://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-inbetweeners) (2008–2010) * Booksmart (https://www.netflix.com/watch/81061054?source=35) (2019) * Peep Show (https://www.channel4.com/programmes/peep-show?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=19620182378&gbraid=0AAAAACqZr-CQoeGupKq4OOVy3zf-TpDhd&gclid=CjwKCAjwyYPOBhBxEiwAgpT8P_V_nkkuDF1UANk2b6C4B8xajssEqNKCLu-MUlYQJM19JHoWWPBothoCGYMQAvD_BwE) (2003–2015) * Peep Show Still Proves That Self-loathing is Pretty Universal (https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/20/arts/television/peep-show-jesse-armstrong-sam-bain.html?searchResultPosition=1) by The New York Times * Succession Owes its Genius to Peep Show (https://inews.co.uk/culture/succession-peep-show-owes-genius-jesse-armstrong-2280915?srsltid=AfmBOorH37abegxX_Qu6COUSb-jm8LEICOjt8iXHaYsT-dPb76abIOWX) by i * Four Naan, Jeremy? (https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fhave-a-ever-had-a-four-naan-moment-v0-4xqphuppcame1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D6234b9287d0ff95beda18e68203b9cca49e2f304) *Ghost World (https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.44b8ab23-6c43-f22f-59b2-b845f1be3a70?autoplay=0&ref_=atv_cf_strg_wb) (2001) *Discussing Ottessa Moshfegh on STARGIRL (https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/episode-49-ottessa-moshfegh-with-holly-friend/id1622032097?i=1000663277222) *Types of Social Networks: Samplers (https://www.tiktok.com/@jstorbaddie/video/7469589653645987103?q=sampler%20friendship&t=1774301138196) on TikTok This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit recurringcharacter.substack.com (https://recurringcharacter.substack.com?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_1)
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