Red, Blue, and Real.

About Red, Blue, and Real.

When was the last time you heard a political debate that was actually.... fun? Our politics have become so toxic, tribal, and polarized that most people stopped talking to each other, much less engaging with those on the other side of the aisle. And when they do, it's usually a lot of yelling and not a lot of meaningful discussion. Well, never fear, Red, Blue, and Real is here to change that. We're going to give you an unfiltered look at politics and current cultural issues from different perspectives. We are friends who believe in disagreeing without being disagreeable. You may have seen each of us on FOX News, CNN, and many other outlets, but here you get the real, unfiltered versions of our thoughts and opinions. Eric Messersmith is our moderate Liberal, Elisha Krauss our more centered Conservative, and Tiffany Marie Brannon is our more MAGA-leaning Conservative. Tune in every Tuesday and Thursday to hear them debate the biggest issues of the day in a fun and.... mostly friendly way.

Publisher

Tiffany Marie Brannon, Eric Messersmith, Elisha Krauss

Category

news · news

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

16 Sept 2026

Latest episode

27 Oct 2026

Latest episodes

14 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   27 Oct 2026

   Millennial, Conservative, Confused: Dating, Politics & What Comes After Trump

   Politics is downstream from culture, so Tiffany Marie Brannon and Eric Messersmith start there. They sit down with Matt Shupe, principal at Praetorian Public Relations, to ask what it means to be a conservative millennial man in 2026. They cover: How growing up with feminist ideals shaped dating expectations How dating apps and social media have "gamified" relationships The divorce debate, from both sides of the table Why conservatives lose millennial women by so many points, and how to reach them. Matt's answer is to show up where they already are, in fashion, entertainment and pop culture, and not only on podcasts like Joe Rogan's. What the midterms and the open 2028 field could mean for both parties, including the identity crises Matt expects after Trump and whether JD Vance or Ted Cruz might run Candid, funny and not always in agreement.

2. 

   26 Oct 2026

   L.A. GOP Chair Roxanne Hoge and PR leader Matt Shupe on the California Ballot and Midterms

   Less than two weeks before the midterms, Eric Messersmith and Tiffany Marie Brannon sit down in their downtown LA studio with Roxanne Hoge, chair of the LA Republican Party, and Matt Shupe, principal at Praetorian Public Relations. They debate the California Governor's race, voter turnout, Los Angeles politics and so much more. The conversation is lively, and the two sides disagree openly - don't miss it! They cover: Early-voting turnout and why Republicans say "our people wait" The 64-contest ballot and Roxanne's "Vote Different LA" voter guide Prop 40, the billionaire tax Prop 39 (voter ID) and Prop 45 (CEQA reform) The LA mayor's race, with Karen Bass against the DSA-backed challenger The governor's race, Steve Hilton against Xavier Becerra: who is campaigning harder, what a "moderate" Republican looks like, and Hilton's tax and housing plans Whether a Republican vote counts in LA, with local races decided by a handful of votes The DOJ's claims about 20,000 non-citizen California voters

3. 

   21 Oct 2026

   France Riots, why the Left embraces Socialism over Capitalism, and the DOJ’s Voter Roll Fight with California

   France’s chaos is not just a European problem, and this episode makes the case for why what happens there could be a preview of what’s coming next in America. Tiffany Marie Brannon, Eric Messersmith, and Elisha Krauss clash over immigration, socialism, wealth inequality, voter rolls, and whether the political left is ignoring the real forces pushing countries toward unrest. Tiffany kicks things off with a sharp warning about France, arguing that riots, failed assimilation, and overregulation are accelerating the decline of Western civilization. Eric pushes back with a more nuanced take, arguing that immigration is only part of the story and that France’s budget policy, government spending, and economic mismanagement matter just as much. Elisha adds fuel to the debate, arguing that the left has orchestrated, not just hijacked, the unrest and connecting it to Marxist ideology, school failures, and the broader collapse of institutional trust. You'll hear the hosts unpack the difference between protest and riot, why terms like socialism and communism get thrown around so loosely, and how modern conservatives and Democrats are talking past each other. The conversation goes deep into the roots of modern conservatism through Edmund Burke and the French Revolution, then turns to the questions that keep dividing voters today - what role government should play, when capitalism stops working for ordinary people, and whether the answer is more regulation or less. We break down the numbers behind wealth concentration, the rise of the DSA, why younger voters are increasingly open to socialism, and whether Democrats are failing to offer a compelling alternative to economic frustration. The episode also tackles California’s voter roll fight with the DOJ, mail-in voting, ballot harvesting, and the recurring argument over voter fraud, with the hosts sharply divided on whether the real problem is incompetence, noncooperation, or something more systemic. If you want a fast, fiery, no-holds-barred debate about the political and cultural fault lines shaping the U. S. and Europe right now, this one is for you. Perfect for listeners who want sharp arguments, strong personalities, and an unfiltered look at the fights conservatives and moderates are having in real time.

4. 

   14 Oct 2026

   Ambassador Kimberly Guilfoyle Resigns, the James Talarico Mental Health Rumors, Trump’s Diesel Deal with Russia and more!

   Kimberly Guilfoyle’s exit from Trumpworld by resigning as Ambassador to Greece is just the beginning - this episode pulls back the curtain on the real story: power, money, nepotism, and the corruption everyone sees but few say out loud. If you care about the election, political hypocrisy, or why some scandals explode while others get a pass, this one’s for you. Eric Messersmith is joined by co-hosts Elisha Krauss and Tiffany Marie Brannon for a sharp, unfiltered conversation that starts with Guilfoyle being pushed out after allegations involving donor access and personal finances, then opens into a much bigger argument about what counts as corruption in American politics. The panel doesn’t just react to the headlines - they draw the lines between the Trump family, the Biden family, the Clintons, and the long-running culture of influence-peddling that keeps reshaping Washington. You'll hear them break down: why Guilfoyle’s fall feels like a loyalty test gone wrong the difference between legal behavior and obviously unethical self-dealing how family members profit while a relative is in office why stock trading, donor access, and government contracts keep coming back as bipartisan scandals whether the outrage around Trump, Hunter Biden, and the Clintons is actually consistent or just politically convenient Then the conversation shifts to the Russia-Ukraine conflict and Trump’s reported diesel deal with Vladimir Putin, with a heated debate over energy prices, sanctions, Venezuela, California refinery policy, and whether short-term relief is worth empowering America’s enemies. The discussion gets even more intense as the hosts dig into the broader strategy behind Trump’s foreign policy and why trying to “split the difference” on dictatorships can backfire. Finally, the crew tackles the James Talarico rumor cycle and how misinformation spreads so fast it can shape a political narrative before the facts catch up. It’s a reminder that in today’s media ecosystem, suspicion can go viral faster than truth - unless someone is willing to say, “slow down and prove it.” Elisha Krauss and Tiffany Marie Brannon each bring their own perspective to the table, with Eric keeping the conversation grounded as the three of them spar over ethics, politics, and the double standards that define modern media. Essential listening if you want the real fight behind the headlines - and not the sanitized version.

5. 

   10 Oct 2026

   Midterm Polling Problems, What Trump’s Iran Message Reveals About the Election and more!

   Republicans are headed for a rough night, but the real story is how bad it could get. Elisha Krauss, Eric Messersmith, and Tiffany Marie Brannon break down the latest Cook Political Report shifts, the polling blind spots around Trump voters, and why the midterm picture may be changing faster than campaigns want to admit. The conversation gets into the numbers behind the forecast: why 18 races moving toward Democrats matters, where polling has improved, where it still misses badly, and how low-propensity voters could reshape everything from the House map to key Senate and state races. Eric lays out the data, Tiffany pushes back on whether polls can be trusted at all, and Elisha threads the discussion through the larger political and cultural stakes. You’ll hear sharp debate on: The “shy Trump voter” and whether pollsters have finally corrected for 2016 Why Republicans keep underperforming in midterms, special elections, and off-year races The role of grassroots organizing, ballot chasing, and why Democrats keep winning the ground game How celebrity politics, messaging, and messenger problems are changing both parties Why affordability, war, and immigration may matter more than the culture-war issues Republicans keep leading with The hosts also tackle Trump’s Truth Social post saying there will be no military assault on Iran before Election Day, and whether that’s a real signal, a market move, or a political warning tied to gas prices, oil, and the broader economic mood. Tiffany argues the Iran threat is very real and that the administration is constrained by the bureaucratic state, while Eric says the data and the policy fallout tell a much messier story. If you want the clearest argument for why this election could be a turning point for both parties, this is the one to hear. Especially if you care about polling, turnout, Iran, the economy, and what actually moves voters in 2024 and beyond.

6. 

   7 Oct 2026

   What Obama Campaigning for El-Sayed means, Socialist Healthcare, and testing Party Loyalty

   Four weeks before election day, Eric Messersmith and Tiffany Marie Brannon get into one of the hottest debates on the Right right now: what happens when Trump, Obama, socialism, and party loyalty all collide? What starts with Obama stumping for Abdul El Sayed quickly turns into a bigger fight about the future of both parties. Eric argues that the real issue is how candidates get pushed toward or away from the center by party power, while Tiffany makes the case that Democrats are unified in a way Republicans simply are not. From Michigan to Texas to Florida, they break down what those political fault lines mean for the races coming up fast. You’ll hear them tackle: Why Obama showing up for El Sayed says so much about Democratic strategy Whether Donald Trump’s influence is helping Republicans or making their candidates weaker The difference between democratic socialism and communism Why healthcare, childcare, and paid leave keep becoming election issues How internal party discipline could decide 2024 and shape 2028 They also get into the larger ideological war underneath it all, including the tension between free markets and government intervention, the rise of socialist language on the left, and why younger voters may not respond to anti-socialism attacks the way older generations did. Tiffany brings a hard-line warning about the consequences of socialist policies at home and abroad, while Eric pushes back with a more historical, structural view of how American parties evolve. If you want a fast-moving, opinionated breakdown of where the parties are headed and why the next election cycle could trigger even bigger fights inside both camps, this one is for you. Essential listening for anyone following the election, the Trump effect, or the future of conservatism and the left.

7. 

   6 Oct 2026

   The AirDubai Hijacking, Jack Smith and Judicial Lawfare, Election Fraud, and fight for the Filibuster.

   Terror on a plane, a political media takedown gone wrong, and a brutal fight over lawfare, election integrity, and the future of the right. If you want the sharpest breakdown of the biggest stories colliding across foreign policy, courts, and culture, this one is for you. Tiffany Marie Brannon and Eric Messersmith start with the shocking attempted hijacking of a flight to Israel and what it reveals about terrorism, aviation security, and the growing shadow of Iran in the region. From there, they unpack the explosive Jack Smith hearing and the embarrassing misfire that had conservative media running with a completely wrong story. You'll discover how a simple mix-up between the Atlanta Hawks and the Iowa Hawkeyes became a viral political narrative, why corrections rarely travel as far as the original outrage, and how both sides use media distortion to shape public perception. Tiffany and Eric also go deep on the broader fight over lawfare, the 65 Project, disbarment efforts against conservative lawyers, and whether political prosecutions are becoming a weapon instead of a safeguard. We break down the clash over 2020 election claims, the impact of those arguments on turnout and candidate quality, and why both hosts agree that the real danger is a political system where facts stop mattering. The conversation also touches the filibuster, Supreme Court strategy, McConnell-era precedent, and why the next battles over power could reshape American institutions for years. This episode is essential listening if you care about what happens when media bubbles, partisan warfare, and national security collide. It is fast, heated, and packed with the kind of arguments people are having everywhere right now - but rarely this openly.

8. 

   28 Sept 2026

   Greta Gerwig Casting Meryl Streep as Aslan Exposes a Bigger Conservative Culture War and more!

   What makes an adaptation feel true to the story—and what makes it feel like a betrayal? Eric Messersmith, Elisha Krauss, and Tiffany Marie Brannon dig into the debate around Greta Gerwig’s The Chronicles of Narnia, exploring how changes to a beloved story can spark arguments about faith, art, and creative interpretation. The conversation then turns to the New York Times’ list of the 100 best TV shows of the 21st century. The panel weighs in on picks such as Breaking Bad, The Wire, Succession, 30 Rock, The West Wing, and Battlestar Galactica—and debates which shows deserve to be remembered as the defining television of our time. BONUS: Listen to Elisha rap SNL'a Lazy Sunday "Chronicles of Narnia" song after the credits at the end.

9. 

   23 Sept 2026

   Trump’s WH Press Ban, Free Speech, and Why China Is the Real Threat

   Trump is being true-to-form with his recent FAFO handling of the press. Tiffany Marie Brannon and Eric Messersmith are here to discuss it. From the White House media ban to the fight over free speech, COVID censorship, and the line between viewpoint discrimination and legitimate government authority, this episode gets into the real tension behind the headlines. Tiffany and Eric spar over whether the media has become too misleading to trust, or whether Trump is using “fake news” as a justification to silence critics. They unpack what the First Amendment actually protects, why precedent matters, and why both sides may be heading toward a future where whoever wins next gets to weaponize the same tools. Then the conversation turns to Trump’s biggest global gambles - Greenland, Iran, diesel prices, and the mounting pressure on American energy and military power. Tiffany argues Trump’s bold negotiation style is exactly what gets results, while Eric warns that maximalist demands, rushed military action, and executive overreach can leave the U.S. weaker, not stronger. You’ll hear: Why the White House press pool fight may matter far beyond CNN, MSNBC, and Politico How Tiffany and Eric draw the line between media bias and unconstitutional censorship What COVID-era content moderation, Fauci, and platform pressure have to do with today’s free speech debate Why Greenland is becoming a real case study in Trump’s “art of the deal” approach The risks, stakes, and unfinished strategy behind Iran, the Middle East, and rising diesel costs Why both hosts see China as the long-term threat that keeps getting overshadowed Eric Messersmith argues that Trump is setting precedents that could come back to haunt conservatives later. Tiffany Marie Brannon defends strong tactics, calling out media distortion, and making the case that the left has already rewritten the rules. If you care about free speech, political power, media bias, foreign policy, or what Trump’s second-term playbook really means for America’s future, this is an essential listen. Sharp, combative, and unexpectedly aligned on the biggest threat of all, this episode leaves you with one question: when the game changes, who actually benefits?

10. 

    19 Sept 2026

    SHOW US THE MONEY! Will affordability determine the Midterm 2026 results?

    The midterm map is tightening, the money is flooding in, and the real question is not who’s loudest - it’s who can still change minds before Election Day. Eric Messersmith, Elisha Krauss, and Tiffany Marie Brannon break down whether Republicans are headed for a blue wave, a little wave, or a full-on tsunami, and why the answer may already be baked in. With only 46 days left, this conversation gets into the numbers that actually matter: polling trends, betting odds, the battle for the Senate, and why House races could turn on a handful of districts. The panel also digs into the role of billionaires, super PACs, dark money, and why the airwaves are about to be flooded with millions in campaign spending. You’ll hear: * Why Eric thinks Democrats may be on track for a sweep * Why Elisha argues the party in power usually pays the price in midterms * Why Tiffany says panic and doom messaging can suppress turnout * How affordability became the single most powerful political message * Why door-to-door organizing may still beat expensive media buys * What the latest Republican voter sentiment shift says about Trump’s influence The conversation also takes on the deeper stakes behind the headlines - from rising prices and tariffs to Medicaid concerns, culture-war messaging, and the growing frustration with both parties’ hypocrisy on spending and accountability. If you want to understand what’s really driving the midterms, this episode cuts through the spin and gets to the forces that could decide control of Congress. Essential listening if you follow elections, care about political strategy, or want the clearest read on how the midterms might actually play out.

11. 

    19 Sept 2026

    Who will run for President in 2028 and will A.I. be the Biggest Issue?

    AI, data centers, and the 2028 race are already colliding - and the outcome could reshape jobs, politics, and even how we think. Elisha Krauss, Tiffany Marie Brannon, and Eric Messersmith break down why the next election may hinge on who can handle artificial intelligence without handing the future to China or the wrong people inside Big Tech. The conversation starts with a blunt warning: AI is no longer a niche tech story. It is becoming a political fault line, with conservatives, liberals, and industry insiders all landing in strange new alliances over regulation, national security, and the threat of AI shaping everything from the economy to family life. Tiffany brings a deeply skeptical view of AI, sharing how the tools have already changed her work and why she sees serious danger in over-trusting them. Eric pushes the argument toward policy and geopolitics, explaining why this could become one of the defining issues of 2028 and why both parties may be forced to take a stand. Elisha challenges the idea that America can afford to get this wrong, especially as children, schools, and workers are already feeling the effects. You'll discover: * Why AI regulation is suddenly a bipartisan fear, even among unlikely allies * The China factor behind data centers, influencer campaigns, and the race for technological dominance * How AI is already affecting writing, education, medicine, and attention spans * Why Trump, Vance, and the broader GOP may be forced into a position that does not age well * Which potential 2028 candidates actually look strong on paper, and which ones may collapse under pressure The episode also turns to the Democratic side of the map, with the hosts sizing up Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, John Ossoff, Josh Shapiro, and Mark Kelly. Who can actually connect with voters? Who peaks too early? Who looks good in polls but not in a national campaign? And who could survive the brutal mix of personality, media, and ideology that now decides modern presidential politics? This is not a polite cable-news replay. It is a fast-moving, sharp-edged debate about power, technology, borders, messaging, and the candidates most likely to shape the next era. If you care about AI, 2028, or where American politics is heading next, this is essential listening.

12. 

    19 Sept 2026

    LAPD Detective & Director of Los Angeles Police Protective League Jamie McBride on Los Angeles

    Los Angeles is heading toward a public safety collision point, and Jamie McBride says the warning signs are already here. The longtime LAPD detective and director of the LA Police Protective League makes the case that homelessness, shoplifting, and rising threat risks are all connected to one thing: whether police are actually allowed to enforce the law. Hosts Tiffany Marie Brannon and Eric Messersmith sit down with McBride for an unfiltered conversation about the city’s security picture ahead of the 25th anniversary of 9/11, the growing threat of drone-enabled attacks, and why major events like the 2028 Olympics could create a dangerous target. McBride argues that Los Angeles is short more than 1,500 officers, that anti-camping laws are being blocked, and that city leaders are sending the wrong signal to criminals and encampments alike. You’ll hear McBride break down: Why 9/11 anniversaries still trigger heightened alert status every year How drones and modern surveillance change the threat landscape Why he says Karen Bass is better for public safety than Nithya Raman What broken-windows policing changed in New York, and why he wants that approach back How reporting gaps, legal changes, and staffing shortages distort crime numbers Why shoplifting, retail theft, and open-air street sales keep spreading He also explains how LA’s political choices affect everything from sidewalks blocked by encampments to businesses trying to survive, and why he believes the city’s “quality of life” crisis has gone far beyond ideology. If you care about crime, homelessness, the Olympics, or the future of urban policing in LA, this is a blunt, inside-baseball look at what one veteran cop thinks is really happening. This episode keeps the focus on one big question: is Los Angeles choosing public safety, or just talking about it? Essential listening if you want the argument from someone who has spent 36 years on the inside.

13. 

    19 Sept 2026

    Fight to save Los Angeles: Business Survival, Unions, and City Hall with restauranteur Sean Ahaus

    Affordability is the headline issue, but this conversation shows what it looks like on the ground: rising food and labor costs, a broken permitting process, and local policies that can make or break a restaurant. If you care about inflation, small business, or what’s really happening in blue-city politics, this one gets specific fast. Eric Messersmith and Tiffany Marie Brannon are joined by L.A. native Sean Ahaus, owner of Vito’s Restaurant in Santa Monica, for an unfiltered look at how politics shows up in everyday business decisions. Sean doesn’t just talk theory - he describes the real pressure of razor-thin margins, six-month licensing delays, and the frustration of trying to keep a neighborhood institution alive while vacant storefronts multiply around him. You’ll discover: Why rising food costs are hitting restaurants in ways customers rarely see How tariffs are affecting everything from beef to to-go containers and paper supplies Why Sean says the biggest problem isn’t regulation itself, but instability and delays What happens when permits, licenses, and city departments create months of unnecessary bottlenecks How union influence, city council politics, and special interests shape business decisions in Santa Monica Tiffany and Eric press Sean on beef prices, government inefficiency, overregulation, and the decline of local businesses across Los Angeles-area communities. Sean, who is also a licensed business and restaurant broker, brings firsthand insight into the financial side of restaurants and the practical reasons so many beloved places never make it. If you want a raw, local perspective on why businesses are closing, why policy feels disconnected from reality, and what it would take to actually help entrepreneurs succeed, this episode belongs on your list. Essential listening for voters, restaurant owners, business builders, and anyone trying to understand why “affordability” has become so much more than a slogan.

14. 

    16 Sept 2026

    The RNC Dallas Convention, Trump’s $5,000 promise, and Midterm Predictions

    The right is already fracturing ahead of the midterms - and this bonus episode of Red, Blue, and Real shows exactly where the cracks are showing. With just 54 days until Election Day, Eric Messersmith and Tiffany Marie Brannon break down the mood inside the GOP after the party's first-ever midterm convention in Dallas, Trump's marathon speech, and the bigger fight over whether Republicans are united enough to hold power. Eric and Tiffany do not hold back. They spar over Trump's $5,000 tariff dividend idea, the cost of populist promises, hypocrisy on socialism, and why conservative influencers are suddenly turning on the administration. Along the way, they dig into the messaging battle Republicans need to win, the long-term vs. short-term economic argument, and why China, TikTok, illegal immigration, and judicial activism are shaping the 2026 political landscape. You'll hear Tiffany explain why the convention felt more energized than expected, why she still thinks Republicans can keep the Senate and House, and why Michigan and Texas are among the races she's watching most closely. Eric pushes back on the rhetoric, fact-checks the talking points, and keeps the conversation anchored in the numbers, the strategy, and the contradictions. This episode also introduces the show itself: Red, Blue, and Real is built around unfiltered political conversation from different perspectives, with Elisha Krauss joining the lineup going forward. If you want a no-spin preview of the midterms, the GOP's internal tensions, and the arguments shaping the next few months, this is the episode to start with. Perfect for listeners who want political debate that is sharp, candid, and impossible to ignore.

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