Looking for hope and redemption after sexual betrayal? Then this is the podcast for you! We're Shelley and Jason Martinkus, authors of four books, including Worthy of Her Trust and we've been there. We're nearly two decades into our own recovery work, and have dedicated our lives to helping other men, wives and marriages on the journey toward wholeness. With candor, vulnerability and authenticity we want to walk with you, too! Tune in as we address the highs and lows, the hard questions and the challenges couples face as they pursue redemptive living.

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Looking for hope and redemption after sexual betrayal? Then this is the podcast for you! We're Shelley and Jason Martinkus, authors of four books, including Worthy of Her Trust and we've been there. We're nearly two decades into our own recovery work, and have dedicated our lives to helping other men, wives and marriages on the journey toward wholeness. With candor, vulnerability and authenticity we want to walk with you, too! Tune in as we address the highs and lows, the hard questions and the challenges couples face as they pursue redemptive living.
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Recent Episodes

May 8, 2026
#121: Kate and Jordan's Story - Part 3
<div>At last, here is the final installment of our interview with Jordan and Kate Jones (aka Part 3). This is also the end of Season #8. Thank you for being with us! </div> <div> </div> <div>Jordan shares something very profound at the top of the episode and we roll from there. We talk character change, perspective shift in what Jordan cared most about, and Jordan's wholesale surrender. We also talk about Kate's six months of detachment and her perspective on trust and ultimately that she knows deep down, no matter what, she will be okay.</div> <div> </div> <div>I loved the framework that Kate developed for herself - here are some of the truths she shared:</div> <div> </div> <div>#1 - No matter what, I will be okay.</div> <div> </div> <div>#2 - If something is going on, I know I will find out,</div> <div> </div> <div>#3 - I can't be with you all the time, but I do see your character.</div> <div> </div> <div>#4 - I don't need him to be okay for me to be okay.</div> <div> </div> <div>Toward the end of the podcast, Kate shares that the security she has in God and the work it took to get there is worth the struggles she has gone through. What sweet redemption.</div> <div> <div> </div> <div>We are so glad YOU are here. Thanks for joining us for Season #8.</div> </div> <div> <div> </div> <div> <ul> <li>Ladies, would love for you to consider one of our support groups - we have a couple of groups starting soon. You can snag all the details <a href= "https://www.rlforwomen.com/groupandindividualcoaching#group" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.rlforwomen.com/groupandindividualcoaching%23group&source=gmail&ust=1778339534402000&usg=AOvVaw2U9oLc_Aa1XtKI0WwMarXX">here</a>.</li> </ul> </div> <ul> <li>For more information on RL Academy, click <a href= "https://rlacademy.online/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://rlacademy.online/&source=gmail&ust=1778339534402000&usg=AOvVaw0c3h469LUaKKfCHJUacVQr">here</a>.</li> </ul> <div> <ul> <li>Podcast Freebies can be found <a href= "https://dashing-cherry-594.myflodesk.com/pzwhcxo20h" target= "_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://dashing-cherry-594.myflodesk.com/pzwhcxo20h&source=gmail&ust=1778339534402000&usg=AOvVaw3aMKJHV4Nnp9Upq2jR5hy1">here</a>. (Please note, you have to email us (see link below) if you need us to send the updated podcast freebies to you. Working on a better way to deliver these, but for now, we need you to let us know if you want the updated list of freebies.)</li> </ul> </div> <div> <ul> <li>The Worthy of Her Trust Workshop is SOLD OUT for April. <a href="https://www.redemptiveliving.com/wht" target= "_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.redemptiveliving.com/wht&source=gmail&ust=1778339534402000&usg=AOvVaw2kG8INLGQ9OaMlpVdzIScY">Click here</a> to get on the interest list for the next men's workshop outside San Antonio, TX, slated for late 2026.</li> </ul> <div> <ul> <li>The RLW retreat is SOLD OUT, but we would love for you to add yourself to <a href= "https://dashing-cherry-594.myflodesk.com/vyivsd6meu" target= "_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://dashing-cherry-594.myflodesk.com/vyivsd6meu&source=gmail&ust=1778339534402000&usg=AOvVaw3oc5GG5Ai_X7x8yx7Osj-j">the interest list for the next retreat</a>, slated for October of 2026.</li> </ul> </div> <div> <ul> <li>Empowered Boundaries is coming back in June - if you are interested in joining the 14th cohort, we would love to have you. Make sure you get on the <a href= "https://www.rlforwomen.com/boundaries-course" target="_blank" rel= "noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.rlforwomen.com/boundaries-course&source=gmail&ust=1778339534402000&usg=AOvVaw2kzIh5mT9Ha21Uh_-LEesj">waitlist here</a> so you know when registration opens.</li> </ul> </div> </div> <div> <ul> <li>If you are interested in a couples conference/event, we would love for you to let us know <a href= "https://dashing-cherry-594.myflodesk.com/couplesevent" target= "_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://dashing-cherry-594.myflodesk.com/couplesevent&source=gmail&ust=1778339534402000&usg=AOvVaw1JCAjRulkw0WYaEOxMqCzO">by filling out this quick form</a>.</li> </ul> </div> <div> <ul> <li>Same with 1:1 Coaching - if you are curious about 1:1 coaching - <a href= "https://www.rlforwomen.com/groupandindividualcoaching#one" target= "_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.rlforwomen.com/groupandindividualcoaching%23one&source=gmail&ust=1778339534402000&usg=AOvVaw0imEHsEuQtPye4foLVw6zH">start here</a>.</li> </ul> </div> <div> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.rlforwomen.com/anchored" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.rlforwomen.com/anchored&source=gmail&ust=1778339534402000&usg=AOvVaw3uQU_AQ4kPmMtZkEjEIAJ-"> Anchored</a>, led by <a href="https://www.rlforwomen.com/kate" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.rlforwomen.com/kate&source=gmail&ust=1778339534402000&usg=AOvVaw0YjDlav2oGDiJqE7k-2Ylt">Kate Jones</a>, is SOLD OUT. It is a fantastic class, and if you are interested in taking this class in the future, <a href= "https://www.rlforwomen.com/anchored" target="_blank" rel= "noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.rlforwomen.com/anchored&source=gmail&ust=1778339534402000&usg=AOvVaw3uQU_AQ4kPmMtZkEjEIAJ-">join the WaitLIst here</a>. No stress, it WILL come back!</li> </ul> </div> <div> <ul> <li>We will be uploading the video portion of the podcasts to the WOHT Academy website. If you scroll to the bottom of <a href="https://help.redemptiveliving.com/academy" target= "_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://help.redemptiveliving.com/academy&source=gmail&ust=1778339534402000&usg=AOvVaw3eKwPhkDx_I1OfuxPEJPFI">this page</a>, you'll find the signup button for our Public Content Section. If the content is helpful, you might consider joining the Academy membership to access more teaching videos and weekly live teaching with our team. </li> </ul> </div> <div> <div> <ul> <li>Join the community on Instagram - <a href= "https://www.instagram.com/shelley_martinkus/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.instagram.com/shelley_martinkus/&source=gmail&ust=1778339534402000&usg=AOvVaw0X_DxBzW3tsPGAaplhn9HH">@shelley_martinkus</a>.</li> </ul> </div> <div> <ul> <li>We offer 1:1 coaching, couples recovery coaching, support groups, MasterClasses, workshops/retreats, and online courses - check out our websites:<a href="http://redemptiveliving.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.com/url?q=http://redemptiveliving.com/&source=gmail&ust=1778339534402000&usg=AOvVaw2T6tcxniO2qZTGhEcvpDgK">redemptiveliving.com</a> and <a href="http://rlforwomen.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.com/url?q=http://rlforwomen.com/&source=gmail&ust=1778339534402000&usg=AOvVaw1uNuNBV2BuzKrqhzcVX7bh"> rlforwomen.com</a> for the full scoop!</li> </ul> <div> <ul> <li><a href= "https://view.flodesk.com/pages/610d95cdb02a5e6beed7eb85" target= "_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://view.flodesk.com/pages/610d95cdb02a5e6beed7eb85&source=gmail&ust=1778339534402000&usg=AOvVaw24fwJdwnMLOgOjB3s3IkF4"> Click here</a> to subscribe to Shelley's {almost} monthly letter + monthly polls + all the things. <a href= "https://view.flodesk.com/pages/619954abb4f6fb9d86fe6fe9" target= "_blank" rel="noopener" data-saferedirecturl= "https://www.google.com/url?q=https://view.flodesk.com/pages/619954abb4f6fb9d86fe6fe9&source=gmail&ust=1778339534402000&usg=AOvVaw000iVF7ZHGgIalcSsH1LP_"> Click here</a> to subscribe to Jason's list.</li> </ul> </div> </div> <div> <ul> <li>Questions for the Podcast? <a href= "mailto:hello@rlforwomen.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Email</a> us with the subject line: Podcast</li> </ul> </div> </div> </div>

May 1, 2026
#120: Kate and Jordan's Story - Part 2
Host Shelley Martinkus interviews Kate and Jordan about their journey through addiction, relapse, and recovery, offering insights into overcoming significant life challenges.

April 24, 2026
#119: Kate and Jordan's Story - Part 1
<p data-rte-preserve-empty="true" data-pm-slice="1 3 []">We are ending Season #8 of RL Radio with an interview with one of the amazing couples on our team - Kate and Jordan Jones. This will be at least a three-part series where Kate and Jordan share their story. SO many insights, so many things to learn from them. We are grateful for their vulnerability and humility in sharing about the choices made, the pain experienced, and the unknowns ahead of them. A HUGE thank you to Kate and Jordan!</p> <p data-rte-preserve-empty="true">We are so glad YOU are here. Thanks for joining us for Season #8:</p> <ul data-rte-list="default"> <li> <p data-rte-preserve-empty="true">Ladies, would love for you to consider one of our support groups - we have a couple of groups starting soon. You can snag all the details <a href= "https://www.rlforwomen.com/groupandindividualcoaching#group" target="_blank" rel="noopener">here</a>.</p> </li> <li> <p data-rte-preserve-empty="true">For more information on RL Academy, click <a href="https://rlacademy.online/" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">here</a>.</p> </li> <li> <p data-rte-preserve-empty="true">Podcast Freebies can be found <a href= "https://dashing-cherry-594.myflodesk.com/pzwhcxo20h" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">here</a>. (Please note, you have to email us (see link below) if you need us to send the updated podcast freebies to you. Working on a better way to deliver these, but for now, we need you to let us know if you want the updated list of freebies.)</p> </li> </ul> <ul data-rte-list="default"> <li> <p data-rte-preserve-empty="true">The Worthy of Her Trust Workshop is SOLD OUT for April. <a href= "https://www.redemptiveliving.com/wht" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Click here</a> to get on the interest list for the next men's workshop outside San Antonio, TX, slated for late 2026.</p> </li> <li> <p data-rte-preserve-empty="true">The RLW retreat is SOLD OUT, but we would love for you to add yourself to <a href= "https://dashing-cherry-594.myflodesk.com/vyivsd6meu" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">the interest list for the next retreat</a>, slated for October of 2026.</p> </li> <li> <p data-rte-preserve-empty="true">Empowered Boundaries is coming back in June - if you are interested in joining the 14th cohort, we would love to have you. Make sure you get on the <a href="https://www.rlforwomen.com/boundaries-course" target="_blank" rel="noopener">waitlist here</a> so you know when registration opens.</p> </li> <li> <p data-rte-preserve-empty="true">If you are interested in a couples conference/event, we would love for you to let us know <a href= "https://dashing-cherry-594.myflodesk.com/couplesevent" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">by filling out this quick form</a>.</p> </li> <li> <p data-rte-preserve-empty="true">Same with 1:1 Coaching - if you are curious about 1:1 coaching - <a href= "https://www.rlforwomen.com/groupandindividualcoaching#one" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">start here</a>.</p> </li> <li> <p data-rte-preserve-empty="true"><a href= "https://www.rlforwomen.com/anchored" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Anchored</a>, led by <a href= "https://www.rlforwomen.com/kate" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Kate Jones</a>, is SOLD OUT. It is a fantastic class, and if you are interested in taking this class in the future, <a href="https://www.rlforwomen.com/anchored" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">join the WaitLIst here</a>. No stress, it WILL come back!</p> </li> <li> <p data-rte-preserve-empty="true">We will be uploading the video portion of the podcasts to the WOHT Academy website. If you scroll to the bottom of <a href= "https://help.redemptiveliving.com/academy" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">this page</a>, you'll find the signup button for our Public Content Section. If the content is helpful, you might consider joining the Academy membership to access more teaching videos and weekly live teaching with our team. </p> </li> <li> <p data-rte-preserve-empty="true">Join the community on Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/shelley_martinkus/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">@shelley_martinkus</a>.</p> </li> <li> <p data-rte-preserve-empty="true">We offer 1:1 coaching, couples recovery coaching, support groups, MasterClasses, workshops/retreats and online courses - check out our websites :<a href="http://redemptiveliving.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">redemptiveliving.com</a> and <a href= "http://rlforwomen.com/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">rlforwomen.com</a> for the full scoop!</p> </li> </ul> <ul data-rte-list="default"> <li> <p data-rte-preserve-empty="true"><a href= "https://view.flodesk.com/pages/610d95cdb02a5e6beed7eb85" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">Click here</a> to subscribe to Shelley's {almost} monthly letter + monthly polls + all the things. <a href= "https://view.flodesk.com/pages/619954abb4f6fb9d86fe6fe9" target= "_blank" rel="noopener">Click here</a> to subscribe to Jason's list.</p> </li> </ul> <ul data-rte-list="default"> <li> <p data-rte-preserve-empty="true">Questions for the Podcast? <a href="mailto:hello@rlforwomen.com" target="_blank" rel= "noopener">Email</a> us with the subject line: Podcast</p> </li> </ul>
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