Leadership isn’t theory. It’s lived.
Hosted by Heather Verity, CEO/Owner of Focus 3, and Jennifer Lawson, Senior Education Consultant and recovering school administrator, Relentless & Real is the podcast for women who lead on purpose and without apology.
Here, we don’t just talk about leadership. We build it. Protect it. Scale it. Each episode cuts through the noise of buzzwords and burnout to get to what actually moves the needle: clear standards, real accountability, powerful mindset work, and the language that shapes influence.
What if the career you've built isn't the career you want for the rest of your life?
In this episode of Relentless & Real, Heather Verity and Jennifer Lawson explore career pivots, reinvention, and why it's never too late to pursue something new.
Heather reflects on her own professional journey, from cosmetics and recruiting to financial services and ultimately purchasing Focus 3 at age 56. She shares why she's never viewed age as a limitation and how curiosity, confidence, and a willingness to learn have helped her embrace new opportunities throughout her career.
Jenny also shares her experience leaving public education after 26 years, including the financial uncertainty and fear that came with stepping away from a familiar career path.
Together, they challenge the idea that we have to spend decades working toward a retirement that will finally allow us to enjoy life. Instead, they encourage listeners to consider what inspires them, recognize the choices they have, and build a career and life they don't constantly feel the need to escape.
Whether you're considering a major career change or simply questioning what's next, this conversation is a reminder that your next chapter can begin at any age.
22 Oct 2026
Ep. 40 – Get Out of Your Comfort Zone
Sometimes, getting unstuck starts with changing your surroundings.
In this episode of Relentless & Real, Heather Verity and Jennifer Lawson explore how the environments we choose, the people we surround ourselves with, and the routines we fall into can influence our growth.
Heather shares why she intentionally puts herself in unfamiliar places to find inspiration, spark creativity, and open herself up to new opportunities. From working in a different environment to striking up conversations with strangers, she explains how small changes can lead to new perspectives and unexpected connections.
They also discuss the importance of evaluating the relationships in our lives, recognizing when comfort is holding us back, and understanding that not everyone will grow alongside us.
Whether you're feeling stuck personally or professionally, this conversation is a reminder that growth rarely happens when we stay exactly where we are. Sometimes, the next step is simply choosing to do something different.
15 Oct 2026
Ep. 39 – Start With Who You Know
The next opportunity might be closer than you think.
In this episode of Relentless & Real, Heather Verity and Jennifer Lawson explore the power of your natural market, the people you already know, and how intentional relationships can open doors you never expected.
Heather shares a practical approach to reconnecting with people in your network, asking for help, and turning everyday conversations into meaningful opportunities. From reaching out to old friends to asking for referrals without feeling pushy, she explains why building relationships doesn't have to be complicated, but it does require intention.
They also discuss why face-to-face conversations still matter, how to get comfortable making the ask, and why the strongest relationships are built on mutual support rather than transactions.
Whether you're growing a business, expanding your professional network, or simply looking to reconnect with people in your life, this episode is a reminder that you don't always need to look further. Sometimes, you just need to start with who you know.
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