Rice and Cannoli is a podcast hosted by two founders who actually build things. We have opinions, and we're not afraid to use them.
We cover AI, tech, and the broader cultural moment playing out in real time. Some episodes are deep dives. Some are just two guys who've been paying attention, saying what everyone else is thinking.
🍚 Rice: Renny Chan
🥐 Cannoli: Jim Verducci
Rice & Cannoli Podcast - Ep 21 - Goodbye Sir Patrick, Anthropci's S1 is Crazy, Apple's Touchcreen
It's a Halloween special of the Rice and Cannoli podcast, and Cannoli shows up as Taco. The costume is a nod to last week's guest, Dave Winterbourne of Zoom Drain Phoenix East Valley, who picked taco as his food alias. It also comes from a kids' musical based on Dragons Love Tacos.Rice and Cannoli swap Halloween stories, from Canadian mall trick-or-treating to pizza night and Treehouse of Horror marathons. Then they remember Sir Patrick Stewart, from Shakespeare to Star Trek to the X-Men and American Dad.On the news docket:AppleThe Reddit drama (it's not what you think)Anthropic's S-1Things getting wild at ProtonThe Binance and Polymarket hacksA fun segment to close the showIf you like the show, like and subscribe on YouTube. On Spotify or Apple Podcasts, share an episode with a friend.
27 Oct 2026
Rice & Cannoli Podcast - Ep 20 - Interview with Dave Winterborne
inks:Zoom Drain https://www.zoomdrain.com/phoenix-east-valley/about-us/Dave Winterborne: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-winterbourne-17951b/Is AI coming for every desk job, and are the trades the safer bet? Rice and Cannoli put that question to Dave Winterbourne, who spent about 25 years in tech and left in 2025 to open a Zoom Drain franchise in Arizona with his wife.Dave was a founding engineer at AppDynamics, where he rose to senior director of engineering. He was there when Cisco acquired the company in 2017. Before software, he studied geology. In this episode he explains why he swapped code for drains, and what he thinks the AI boom means for both worlds.In this episode:Dave's path from geology to software to running a drain and sewer businessWhether AI will reshape entry-level tech jobs, and what it could do to how we thinkAI-assisted code review, and what happens when nobody reads the "blueprints" anymoreWhy software has no apprenticeship path like the trades, and whether it shouldThe data center backlash, and what AI-driven building really means for trades jobsHow AI and robotic tools could help the trades, from crawler cameras to AI companions
20 Oct 2026
Rice and Cannoli Podcast - Ep 19 - iPhone Duo, Hackers, PS5 Jailbreak, Bloons
Welcome to our latest tech news roundup! In this episode, we cover the highly anticipated release of the iPhone Duo, hackers targeting Albert Heijn, the latest PS5 jailbreaks, and the upcoming Bloons cartoon. Stay up-to-date on all things technology and AI with our weekly rundown. Don't forget to subscribe for more updates!
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