All Black Legend Sir John Kirwan and Springbok Legend Victor Matfield go head to head on all things rugby just as you'd expect an All Black Winger and a South African Forward to do battle.
Bringing in their friends and rivals from all over the Rugby world for a truly Global perspective.
Refereeing in the middle is NZ media legend Ric Salizzo .
And as all of them are well in the second half of their lives, Sir JK has some well meaning wellness advice to help them extend their lives and therefore the life of this podcast
Sean Fitzpatrick & Daley Thompson on Winning Without Sacrifice
All Blacks legend Sean Fitzpatrick sits down with the world's greatest athlete, two-time Olympic decathlon champion Daley Thompson, in this episode of Winning Matters, brought to you by ALTRAD.
Daley won decathlon gold at Moscow 1980 and Los Angeles 1984, broke the world record four times, went nine years unbeaten, and became the first athlete to win Olympic, World, Commonwealth and European titles and hold the world record. Together, he and Sean break down what really separates winners: practising how to compete, not just how to train; planning years ahead; learning from the habits of the best; and why the fear of wasting your talent matters more than the fear of failure.
CHAPTERS
Chapters
00:00:00 Intro
00:01:12 Welcome Daley Thompson
00:02:10 Training twice on Christmas Day
00:03:49 Why it was never a sacrifice
00:05:49 Finishing 18th at his first Olympics
00:08:04 Where the drive came from
00:12:58 From football to athletics
00:18:34 Turning losses into positives
00:19:37 Ten events, one thing
00:21:21 Finding the decathlon by accident
00:22:27 Practising how to win
00:24:58 What winning really means
00:27:54 Learning from Caitlyn Jenner
00:32:36 Fear of failure vs wasted talent
00:37:40 Using the crowd as fuel
00:38:20 Seoul 1988 and dealing with defeat
00:40:14 The training diary prediction
00:44:11 Why the Olympic village breaks athletes
00:45:51 Rivalry with Jürgen Hingsen
00:46:47 Nine years unbeaten
00:47:39 How he'd train athletes today
00:49:36 Life after retirement
00:50:23 Daley Thompson's Decathlon
00:52:56 Growing up robust
00:54:31 Are today's athletes as tough?
00:56:36 Winning in a team
00:57:24 Thanks & ALTRAD
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5 Oct 2026
The All Blacks Players Under Pressure For the Bledisloe Cup
Bledisloe week is here, and John Kirwan and Victor Matfield are naming the All Blacks who need to stand up against the Wallabies this weekend.
With the Cup on the line, JK and Victor ask whether this All Blacks side is good enough to keep Australia at bay, where the Wallabies could hurt them, and which players are under the most pressure to perform.
Brought to you by RAM Hand-to-Hand Couriers: who needs to deliver for the All Blacks?
Plus, for Klipdrift, JK and Victor share their favourite moments from the break, from Victor's holiday to JK's road trip.
28 Sept 2026
South Africa Shocked By 11-Man Wallabies... What Went Wrong?
Australia led the world champions 42–17 with 15 minutes to go.
Then four yellow cards, a penalty try and a Springbok scrum onslaught turned Perth into chaos - and the Wallabies held on with 11 men.
Springbok great Victor Matfield and All Blacks legend Sir John Kirwan break down one of the wildest finishes in Test rugby: how the Wallabies built a 25-point lead, how the Boks clawed back through the scrum, and whether the result says more about Les Kiss's Wallabies or a Springbok side that got caught out.
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