RULEMATCH Spot On is the only podcast focused exclusively on the institutional crypto and digital assets industry. Hosted by Ian Simpson, each episode brings in-depth conversations with people "in the know" about what banks, hedge funds, asset managers and other institutions are doing in crypto and digital assets - and how they are doing it. Official RULEMATCH Channel
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June 16, 2026
<p>The intersection of crypto and tokenization - and the crossover from crypto finance and traditional finance - is nowhere more clear than with the rise of stablecoins.<br><br>While a handful of USD-backed coins have dominated until now, the landscape, with MiCA regulations and institutional appetite, is now changing.<br><br>Except in Switzerland...<br><br>To better understand how banks view stablecoins, what they still struggle with and where the Swiss banking industry is quietly working to innovate, RULEMATCH Spot On host Ian Simpson sat down with Martin K. Hess, Chief Economist of the Swiss Bankers Association.<br><br><br>-----<br><br>ABOUT THE HOST: Ian Simpson is Director of Marketing and Communication at RULEMATCH as well as host of the RULEMATCH Spot On podcast, focused exclusively on the institutional crypto and digital assets industry. Previously he was Head of Marketing at Bitcoin Suisse and Head of Communications at the Crypto Valley Association. Ian is a veteran of the Swiss crypto and digital assets industry since 2017. His insights on the Swiss crypto and blockchain ecosystem have been featured in CoinDesk, the leader in blockchain news.<br><br>------<br><br>Disclaimer:The information contained in this podcast about RULEMATCH AG (“RULEMATCH”) and any guest company is for general informational purposes only and should not be considered exhaustive. They do not imply any elements of a contractual relationship nor any offering.</p>
March 2, 2026
<p>The potential for tokenization is massive - and that applies to the fund industry as well. When smart contracts can help streamline investor onboarding, subscriptions and more, the sky is the limit.</p><br /><p>Who has been building for this future? Apex Group, one of the world's largest and most sophisticated firms in the space. On RULEMATCH Spot On, host Ian Simpson sat down with Daniel Coheur, Global Head of Digital Assets at Apex Group (and formely co-founder of Tokeny) to dive into how the company is preparing for an on-chain future.</p><br /><p>Show notes:</p><br /><p>00:40 - Intro<br />1:38 - Introduction to Apex Group<br />2:57 - Two sides of the coin with funds<br />4:03 - The main driver towards the tokenization of funds<br />5:37 - The specific benefits of tokenization for funds<br />7:38 - How a blockchain changes things for funds<br />10:10 - Possibilities for new instruments<br />11:01 - Copying the innovation of Franklin Templeton<br />12:41 - The different layers of tokenized funds<br />16:13 - The bigger picture with tokenization of funds<br />17:26 - Introducing asset ID and dealing with the taxonomy<br />19:07 - The risk of tokenized funds with SPVs<br />19:55 - A complete view of what tokenization is<br />23:06 - What the dynamic of ETFs and mutual funds means for tokenized funds<br />24:04 - Why secondary markets are key<br />27:41 - What segments are most important<br />29:51 - Large asset managers in the space<br />32:48 - Public vs private instruments<br />33:52 - Global considerations for tokenization at Apex<br />35:57 - Europe and the pilot DLT regime<br />36:29 - Finality and a CSD<br />38:09 - Use cases based on geography<br />39:41 - The “middle market” that wants tokenization<br />40:56 - The Swiss DLT law and CSDs<br />43:29 - Being prepared for the future<br />44:56 - The need for netting<br />46:17 - Wallet infrastructure for greater distribution<br />47:15 - The future of the DLT pilot regime in Europe<br />49:07 - The backstory of ERC-3643<br />56:10 - On-chain ID and ERC-3643<br />58:01 - Working with companies like Microsoft for ID solutions<br />1:02 - Looking to the future<br /></p><br />-----<br /><br /><p>ABOUT THE HOST: Ian Simpson is Director of Marketing and Communication at RULEMATCH as well as host of the RULEMATCH Spot On podcast, focused exclusively on the institutional crypto and digital assets industry. Previously he was Head of Marketing at Bitcoin Suisse and Head of Communications at the Crypto Valley Association. Ian is a veteran of the Swiss crypto and digital assets industry since 2017. His insights on the Swiss crypto and blockchain ecosystem have been featured in CoinDesk, the leader in blockchain news.</p><br />------<br /><br /><p>Disclaimer:The information contained in this podcast about RULEMATCH AG (“RULEMATCH”) and any guest company is for general informational purposes only and should not be considered exhaustive. They do not imply any elements of a contractual relationship nor any offering.</p>
February 1, 2026
<p>Crypto markets are in constant flux. Not only do prices change, but liquidity ebbs and flows and market participants change their approach.<br><br>How are financial institutions using their balance sheet to trade today? Is there a future for OTC and CLOB trading side-by-side? How might (big) banks position themselves for a tokenized world?<br><br>Host Ian Simpson sat down with B2C2 Group CEO Thomas Restout for an in-depth conversation with perspectives from one of the market's largest and most experienced market makers and OTC trading firms.<br><br>Show notes:</p><br><p>1:18 - Intro</p><p>2:15 - Has volatility disappeared?</p><p>5:06 - How are institutions "playing" the market?</p><p>7:23 - Adoption and shifting attitudes in the market</p><p>9:30 - How to think about OTC trading in the market today</p><p>11:07 - The real reason that some firms prefer to trade OTC</p><p>13:12 - How OTC trading has changed in crypto markets</p><p>14:22 - Price discovery and spreads in OTC trading</p><p>16:50 - How trading firms can be prepared for events like 10/10 </p><p>19:07 - Volatility and an example trading scenario</p><p>20:42 - The ongoing evaluation of risks in bilateral market relationships</p><p>23:08 - Drilling down on settlement risk</p><p>26:08 - DvP as a mitigant to settlement risk</p><p>27:45 - Innovations to change up the landscape</p><p>29:11 - Triparty settlement solutions as a "middle way"</p><p>30:39 - Prime brokerage as an "accelerator"</p><p>34:02 - Advising Jamie Dimon and JP Morgan on crypto trading</p><p>39:46 - Getting ready for what comes after crypto with tokens</p><p>40:17 - Do banks want to own the "rails" for payments and settlement?</p><p>43:03 - B2C2 and tokenized bank deposits (JPM Coin)</p><p>44:31 - JP Morgan as an ideal partner</p><p>46:18 - B2C2's perspective on the future of tokenized assets</p><p>48:56 - Struggling to find the "real use case" of BENJI etc</p><p>49:46 - Creating bigger impact with tokenized money market funds</p><p>51:13 - Is B2C2 looking at M&A?</p><p>54:02 - Retail and the adoption of on-chain assets</p><p>55:15 - The future belongs to...?<br><br>-----<br><br>ABOUT THE HOST: Ian Simpson is Director of Marketing and Communication at RULEMATCH as well as host of the RULEMATCH Spot On podcast, focused exclusively on the institutional crypto and digital assets industry. Previously he was Head of Marketing at Bitcoin Suisse and Head of Communications at the Crypto Valley Association. Ian is a veteran of the Swiss crypto and digital assets industry since 2017. His insights on the Swiss crypto and blockchain ecosystem have been featured in CoinDesk, the leader in blockchain news.<br><br>------<br><br>Disclaimer:</p><br><p>The information contained in this podcast about RULEMATCH AG (“RULEMATCH”) and any guest company is for general informational purposes only and should not be considered exhaustive. They do not imply any elements of a contractual relationship nor any offering.</p>
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