Rural Builds

About Rural Builds

Produced and hosted by Birdman of Birdman Media™, Rural Builds spotlights the people, partnerships, and projects strengthening rural America. In each episode, we explore how rural communities design innovative, scalable solutions to address the social determinants of health — often with fewer resources, more barriers, and far less attention than urban and metro areas. This podcast goes beyond the challenges to center the builders: the educators, clinicians, organizers, parents, first responders, developers, and leaders who turn rural obstacles into opportunity. Rural Builds shows funders, policymakers, and listeners what's possible when rural communities are trusted, resourced, and empowered to build. Because when rural builds, everyone benefits.

Publisher

Rob "Birdman" Hephner

Category

business · society & culture

Language

en

Explicit

No

First episode

27 Jan 2026

Latest episode

11 Sept 2026

Latest episodes

16 episodes in the feed.

1. 

   11 Sept 2026

   How RuralAZ.org Is Reinventing Resource Navigation Across Rural Arizona

   Birdman sits down with Allison Hephner to explore how technology is changing the way rural communities connect people with critical services. As Executive Director of the Sitgreaves Community Development Corporation, Allison shares the story behind RuralAZ.org, an online resource platform designed to help individuals, families, service providers, and community organizations quickly locate verified resources based on location and need. What began as a simple paper guide for families navigating special needs services has evolved into a statewide digital platform that connects users with housing, food assistance, childcare, transportation, veterans' services, behavioral health resources, and much more—all searchable by ZIP code and maintained with vetted information. The conversation also dives into the platform's companion technology, the Wellbeing Care Community (WCC), a secure case management system designed to improve collaboration between nonprofit organizations, healthcare providers, housing agencies, and government partners. By reducing duplication, improving communication, and allowing authorized organizations to coordinate care in real time, the system helps ensure that vulnerable individuals don't fall through the cracks. Birdman and Allison also discuss the challenges of serving geographically isolated rural communities, the importance of sustainable funding beyond government grants, digital solutions for homelessness outreach and coordinated care, and how better data can help communities identify service gaps and improve outcomes. If you're interested in rural innovation, homelessness solutions, community technology, healthcare coordination, housing services, or the future of digital public infrastructure, this episode provides an inside look at a groundbreaking approach being developed right here in Arizona. #RuralBuilds #RuralArizona #CommunityDevelopment #RuralAZ #Homelessness #AffordableHousing #CaseManagement #TechnologyForGood #Arizona #CommunityResources #HousingInnovation #DigitalTransformation

2. 

   24 Aug 2026

   Why Arizona's Route 66 Is a Bucket List Destination for the World

   Broadcasting from the Local First Arizona Rural Policy Forum, Birdman sits down with Nikki Terleski to explore why Arizona is at the center of the world-wide celebration of Historic Route 66's centennial. As Director of Operations for the Historic Route 66 Association of Arizona, Nikki shares how Kingman has earned its reputation as the "Heart of Historic Route 66." Home to the longest drivable continuous stretch of the Mother Road in the country—nearly 158 miles from Topock to Crookton Road—Kingman welcomes visitors from around the globe beginning their Arizona Route 66 adventure. The conversation highlights the beautifully restored Kingman Visitor Center and Route 66 Museum, the history behind the iconic Powerhouse building, and how interactive exhibits bring the story of America's most famous highway to life for visitors of all ages. Birdman and Nikki also discuss Arizona's year-long Route 66 Centennial celebration, the significance of preserving the highway's legacy while modern infrastructure continues to evolve, and the unique ways travelers can experience the Mother Road through passports, self-guided audio tours, and scenic itineraries across northern Arizona. Whether you're a road trip enthusiast, Route 66 history buff, or simply looking for your next Arizona adventure, this episode showcases why Historic Route 66 remains one of America's most iconic travel experiences. #RuralBuilds #ArizonaBackroads #Route66 #HistoricRoute66 #KingmanAZ #ArizonaTravel #RoadTrip #MotherRoad #VisitArizona #Tourism #RuralArizona #Route66Centennial RURAL BUILDS is brought to you by Birdman Media™ and supported by the following sponsors; Please visit their sites for more information and support them when you can. Sitgreaves Community Development Corporation (https://www.sgcdc.org)

3. 

   20 Aug 2026

   Kingman's Big Bet on Route 66, Tourism & Economic Growth | Mayor Ken Watkins

   Broadcasting from the Local First Arizona Rural Policy Forum, Birdman sits down with Ken Watkins to discuss why Kingman is becoming one of Arizona's most strategically important communities for transportation, tourism, and economic development. Known by many as a stop along Interstate 40 and Historic Route 66, Kingman is leveraging its unique location at the crossroads of I-40 and U.S. Highway 93 to attract new industry, expand infrastructure, and welcome millions of visitors traveling through northern Arizona. Mayor Watkins shares updates on major transportation projects, including Flying Fortress Parkway and the Beale Street Bypass, explaining how improved access will strengthen Kingman's industrial park—the largest outside Maricopa County—and create new opportunities for businesses looking to relocate from neighboring states. The conversation also highlights Kingman's growing reputation as a premier Route 66 destination. From the city's popular Route 66 Visitor Center and Museum to the iconic Route 66 Arch, tourism continues to play a vital role in the local economy as communities celebrate the Mother Road's centennial. If you're interested in rural economic development, transportation infrastructure, tourism, Route 66 history, or Arizona's future growth, this episode offers an inside look at how Kingman is positioning itself for the next generation of opportunity. #RuralBuilds #KingmanAZ #Route66 #HistoricRoute66 #Arizona #EconomicDevelopment #Transportation #Infrastructure #Tourism #RuralArizona #LocalFirstArizona RURAL BUILDS is brought to you by Birdman Media™ and supported by the following sponsors; Please visit their sites for more information and support them when you can. Sitgreaves Community Development Corporation (https://www.sgcdc.org)

4. 

   18 Aug 2026

   Rural Success Starts with Child Care, Small Business & Local Leadership

   At the Local First Arizona Rural Policy Forum, Birdman sits down with Tori Cranford and Vance Bryce to explore how collaboration is driving economic growth across rural Arizona. Representing the Eastern Arizona College Small Business Development Center and the Graham County Chamber of Commerce, Tori and Vance share how Graham County has embraced a regional approach to economic development by bringing together local governments, schools, healthcare providers, businesses, and community organizations to pursue grants, solve problems, and create new opportunities. The conversation highlights the unique challenges rural communities face—from transportation and infrastructure to childcare shortages and workforce development—and why those challenges require innovative public-private partnerships instead of one-size-fits-all solutions. Tori discusses how the DreamBuilder program is helping entrepreneurs and small business owners develop the financial skills needed to launch and sustain successful businesses, while also tackling one of rural Arizona's biggest workforce barriers: the lack of accessible childcare facilities. Vance shares Graham County's vision for the future, including downtown revitalization, the Chamber's centennial renovation, mining heritage exhibits, tourism growth, and why investing in community assets creates long-term economic momentum. If you're passionate about rural economic development, entrepreneurship, workforce solutions, tourism, or community leadership, this episode offers practical examples of how local collaboration can create lasting change across Arizona. #RuralBuilds #RuralArizona #EconomicDevelopment #SmallBusiness #Entrepreneurship #GrahamCounty #CommunityLeadership #WorkforceDevelopment #ChildCare #Tourism #ArizonaBusiness #LocalFirstArizona RURAL BUILDS is brought to you by Birdman Media™ and supported by the following sponsors; Please visit their sites for more information and support them when you can. Sitgreaves Community Development Corporation (https://www.sgcdc.org)

5. 

   18 May 2026

   Arizona's Housing Crisis Is Hitting Everyone — Not Just the Poor

   Broadcasting from the Arizona Housing Coalition Conference in Phoenix, Birdman sits down with Joan Serviss following her recognition as the 2026 Advocate of the Year. In this in-depth conversation, Joan shares her decades of experience in housing advocacy and discusses why Arizona's housing challenges have evolved far beyond homelessness alone. Today, middle-class families, teachers, healthcare workers, young professionals, and even upper-middle-income earners are struggling to find attainable housing across both urban and rural communities. Joan explains her new role with the Arizona Community Foundation and how philanthropy can help close critical funding gaps for affordable housing projects through pre-development loans, gap financing, and partnerships with community lenders. The discussion also explores the hidden barriers slowing housing production, including zoning restrictions, infrastructure shortages, labor costs, childcare deserts, and the unique challenges facing rural Arizona and tribal communities. Birdman and Joan dive into why solving the housing crisis requires more than government programs alone. Businesses, nonprofits, philanthropy, local leaders, and communities all have a role to play in creating sustainable workforce and attainable housing solutions for Arizona's future. https://www.azfoundation.org If you're interested in housing policy, rural development, workforce housing, community investment, or the future of affordable living in America, this episode delivers a grounded and practical conversation you won't want to miss. #AffordableHousing #ArizonaHousing #HousingCrisis #RuralBuilds #WorkforceHousing #HousingPolicy #CommunityDevelopment #ArizonaCommunityFoundation #RuralArizona #Homelessness #MiddleClassHousing RURAL BUILDS is brought to you by Birdman Media™ and supported by the following sponsors; Please visit their sites for more information and support them when you can. Sitgreaves Community Development Corporation (https://www.sgcdc.org)

6. 

   14 May 2026

   The Housing Fight No One Wants to Talk About | Arizona Housing Coalition Interview

   At the Arizona Housing Coalition Conference in downtown Phoenix, Birdman sits down with Nicole Newhouse to unpack one of the biggest issues facing Arizona and rural America alike: affordable housing. This conversation goes beyond the stereotypes surrounding "affordable housing" and digs into the real-world impact on middle-class families, seniors on fixed incomes, young professionals, teachers, firefighters, and essential workers who can no longer afford to live in the communities they serve. Nicole explains how the Arizona Housing Coalition works to educate, coordinate resources, and advocate for housing solutions across the state. Together, Birdman and Nicole discuss homelessness policy, zoning battles, local control, workforce shortages, NIMBY resistance, housing density, and why the American Dream of homeownership feels increasingly out of reach. The discussion also explores how government, philanthropy, private investment, and local communities must work together to create practical solutions instead of relying on one system alone. If you care about housing, workforce development, rural growth, community planning, or the future of the middle class, this is a conversation you need to hear. #AffordableHousing #ArizonaHousing #HousingCrisis #RuralBuilds #MiddleClass #WorkforceHousing #Homelessness #ArizonaPolitics #CommunityDevelopment #HousingPolicy RURAL BUILDS is brought to you by Birdman Media™ and supported by the following sponsors; Please visit their sites for more information and support them when you can. Sitgreaves Community Development Corporation (https://www.sgcdc.org)

7. 

   23 Apr 2026

   The $1 Investment That Returns $16: Why Early Childhood Is the Future of Rural America"

8. 

   26 Feb 2026

   How Bisbee Built Workforce Housing Without Giving Homes Away

   What if a small rural city could keep its teachers, firefighters, hospital staff, and public workers—not by waiting for prices to drop, but by building a local system that makes homeownership possible? In this episode of Rural Builds, host Rob "Birdman" Hephner records from Bisbee City Hall with a team that's turning workforce housing from a buzzword into a working model: Mayor Ken Budge, city planner and housing specialist Melissa Hartman, and construction manager / Step Up Bisbee board member Mike Norman. Bisbee—an old copper town turned historic arts community just miles from the border—has seen what happens when housing costs rise faster than wages: employers can't retain essential workers, turnover gets expensive, and the community loses the people who keep it running. The group walks through Bisbee's real-world evolution from volunteer home repairs for low-income and elderly homeowners to a formal workforce housing pipeline built through a city–nonprofit partnership with Step Up Bisbee. You'll hear how they tightened the process with a clear MOU, required buyers to be pre-qualified like any normal home purchase, and built guardrails to protect the community investment—like selling homes at up to a 20% discountfrom appraised value with a five-year deed restriction that reduces over time to prevent quick flips. They also explain why older housing stock can be harder (and sometimes more expensive) to rehab than it is to build new—especially in a historic town where many homes predate modern codes. A highlight of the episode is the voice of Robin Dumas (Local First Arizona), the first buyer of Step Up Bisbee's new construction home, who connects affordable homeownership directly to rural "brain drain"—the reality that educated, committed rural professionals often have to leave simply because they can't afford to stay. The conversation closes with what's next: zoning tools like smaller-lot overlay zones, pre-approved building plans, and a major opportunity in Hillcrest—a historic former hospital complex now cleaned up and positioned for future affordable and workforce-oriented housing. The team also addresses why rural communities often struggle to compete for LIHTC funding, and why a project like Hillcrest could be a game-changer for rentals aimed at workforce needs, seniors, and long-term community stability. RURAL BUILDS is brought to you by Birdman Media™ and supported by the following sponsors; Please visit their sites for more information and support them when you can. Sitgreaves Community Development Corporation (https://www.sgcdc.org)

9. 

   19 Feb 2026

   $1,000 Down to Own a Home in a $725K Market—How Flagstaff Did It

   What if affordable housing didn't mean a handout—and instead became a real "first foothold" into homeownership and the middle class? In this episode of Rural Builds, host Rob Birdman Hephner sits down in Flagstaff, Arizona with Eric Wolverton (chatgpt://generic-entity?number=1), CEO of Habitat for Humanity of Northern Arizona, to break down a bold new approach to workforce housing in one of the most expensive markets in the state. Wolverton shares his journey from fighting food insecurity at St. Mary's Food Bank to tackling housing affordability—after watching friends and working families get priced out of Flagstaff again and again. The conversation gets real about why rural and mountain communities aren't "land rich" the way outsiders assume: without infrastructure like water, sewer, and power, "cheap land" can become instantly unaffordable. At the center of the episode is Habitat Northern Arizona's Starter Home model—a small, stand-alone two-story home designed to get families into ownership with a $1,000 down payment and an all-in monthly payment around $1,000. Instead of trapping families in long-term subsidy programs, this model builds equity on purpose: homeowners can sell the home back to Habitat after 3–10 years and walk away with $30,000 to $100,000 in non-restricted savings—money that can change a family's trajectory. You'll also hear how local partnerships are flipping the script from "not in my backyard" to "we want Habitat in our backyard," why the "missing middle" now includes teachers, first responders, and working professionals, and how integrated neighborhoods can raise expectations—and outcomes—for everyone around them. This is a practical, plain-spoken conversation about housing as health, rural economic survival, and a model that could help other communities stop losing the people who make the town work. RURAL BUILDS is brought to you by Birdman Media™ and supported by the following sponsors; Please visit their sites for more information and support them when you can. Sitgreaves Community Development Corporation (https://www.sgcdc.org)

10. 

    12 Feb 2026

    How Peer Support Saved $8 Million—and Changed Rural Healthcare

    What if the most effective solution to addiction, mental health crises, and repeat ER visits isn't another program—but someone who's been there before? In this episode of Rural Builds, host Rob Birdman Hephner (chatgpt://generic-entity?number=0) sits down in Tucson, Arizona, with Richard Sandoval, Senior Director of Community Programs at Hope Incorporated, for a powerful conversation about peer support, recovery, and what works in rural communities. Sandoval explains how Hope Incorporated meets people where they are—inside jails, emergency rooms, hospitals, shelters, and on the streets—by using peer support rooted in lived experience. From mental health challenges to substance use recovery, the organization focuses on building trust and connection with individuals who often feel written off by traditional systems. The episode dives deep into why rural areas face unique challenges: fewer treatment beds, limited transportation, staffing shortages, and a lack of nearby resources. Sandoval shares how introducing peer support in rural Arizona communities—like the White Mountains and Show Low—led to dramatic results, including reduced ER readmissions and more than $8 million in healthcare cost savings over 18 months for a single hospital system. Beyond the data, this conversation explores why peer support de-escalates crisis situations, how stigma around mental health mirrors outdated thinking about physical health, and why recovery is never a straight line. Sandoval's personal journey—from Veterans Treatment Court participant to senior leadership—brings the mission full circle, proving that hope isn't abstract. It's built through relationships, consistency, and people who refuse to give up on others. RURAL BUILDS is brought to you by Birdman Media™ and supported by the following sponsors; Please visit their sites for more information and support them when you can. Sitgreaves Community Development Corporation (https://www.sgcdc.org)

11. 

    5 Feb 2026

    From Hopelessness to Healing: One Advocate's Fight for Rural Youth

    What happens when unresolved trauma goes untreated in rural communities—and what does it really take to rebuild hope? In this episode of Rural Builds, host Rob Birdman Hephner speaks with Jonathan Brunson at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York about the realities of mental health, poverty, and resilience in rural North Carolina. Brunson is a board member with the Rural Opportunity Institute and the founder of Unafraid to Be Gifted (chatgpt://generic-entity?number=4). His work focuses on identifying and addressing unresolved trauma in young people—especially youth of color—in rural counties like Edgecombe, Wilson, and Tarboro. Drawing from experience in classrooms, community spaces, and grassroots organizing, Brunson explains how trauma often shows up as behavior, discipline issues, substance use, or hopelessness when the root causes go unaddressed. The conversation explores how historic flooding, housing instability, food insecurity, lack of transportation, and limited economic opportunity compound mental health challenges in rural areas. Brunson shares why trust is the biggest barrier to change, how meeting people where they are builds credibility, and why culturally grounded outreach—like community events, barbershop conversations, and youth-centered spaces—can succeed where traditional systems fail. More than a discussion of problems, this episode highlights the power of service, humility, and presence. From suicide prevention to youth mentorship, Brunson's story shows how one committed individual—and the right partnerships—can help rural communities move from trauma toward healing. RURAL BUILDS is brought to you by Birdman Media™ and supported by the following sponsors; Please visit their sites for more information and support them when you can. Sitgreaves Community Development Corporation (https://www.sgcdc.org)

12. 

    30 Jan 2026

    Housing, Trauma, and Recovery: What Really Drives Community Health

    What really shapes a person's health—and why does medical care account for only a small piece of the outcome? In this episode of Rural Builds, host Rob Birdman Hephner (chatgpt://generic-entity?number=0) sits down at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (chatgpt://generic-entity?number=1) with Aaqil Khan (chatgpt://generic-entity?number=2), a rural systems builder working at the intersection of technology, healthcare, and community change. Khan shares his work with Collectively, an AI-driven company focused on improving financial health literacy and patient billing experiences, alongside his passion project, Connected Communities—a three-county coalition in Northwest Illinois addressing substance use disorder, food insecurity, and housing stability. Together, they break down what "social determinants of health" really mean in everyday terms: housing, food access, transportation, education, and the ongoing stress caused by instability. The conversation traces how efforts to address substance use disorder led upstream to deeper root causes like childhood trauma, adverse childhood experiences (ACEs), and lack of social connection. Khan explains how recovery housing, sober living homes, community fridges, and recovery-friendly workplaces are all connected—and why housing, transportation, and employment form the foundation for lasting recovery and economic stability. This episode also takes on stigma head-on, emphasizing why language matters, how data helps communities understand impact, and why building trust among local stakeholders is the hardest—and most important—work. It's a grounded, practical conversation about empathy, systems thinking, and how rural communities can build healthier futures by seeing the whole person, not just the problem. RURAL BUILDS is brought to you by Birdman Media™ and supported by the following sponsors; Please visit their sites for more information and support them when you can. Sitgreaves Community Development Corporation (https://www.sgcdc.org) Mountain Retreat Realty Experts (https://www.mtnretreatrealty.com)

13. 

    29 Jan 2026

    From Housing to Jobs: The Data Communities Need but Never Had

    How do communities actually solve complex problems like poverty, housing instability, and workforce readiness—without wasting money on studies that sit on a shelf? In this episode of Rural Builds, host Rob Birdman Hephner (chatgpt://generic-entity?number=0) sits down with Richard Taylor (chatgpt://generic-entity?number=1), Vice President of eTransX (chatgpt://generic-entity?number=2), to unpack a platform designed to help communities work smarter, not harder. Recorded at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, the conversation explores why most communities struggle to coordinate services across nonprofits, churches, healthcare providers, and local government—and how eTransX was built to fix that. Taylor explains how the Well-Being Care Community Platform connects people, households, and service providers in one shared, person-centered system that addresses housing, food access, transportation, jobs, and other social drivers of health. The episode explains why this kind of data sharing hasn't happened sooner, how privacy and consent are protected, and what it really costs a town or region to implement a system like this. More importantly, it shows how real-time, community-owned data can replace expensive studies, reduce duplication of effort, and help leaders make better decisions that actually improve lives. This is a practical, plain-spoken conversation about technology as a tool—not the solution—to help rural and local communities move the needle on poverty, health, and economic development. RURAL BUILDS is brought to you by Birdman Media™ and supported by the following sponsors; Please visit their sites for more information and support them when you can. Sitgreaves Community Development Corporation (https://www.sgcdc.org)

14. 

    28 Jan 2026

    From Poverty to Six Figures: A Rural Tennessee Success Story

    What does it really take to help families move out of poverty—especially in places that don't have big cities, big budgets, or big spotlights? In this episode of Rural Builds, host Rob Birdman Hephner sits down with Mark Farley of Empower Upper Cumberland to talk about what's working in rural Middle Tennessee—and why it matters. Recorded on location at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, this conversation dives into how a 14-county, fully rural region serving more than 370,000 people is taking a proactive approach to poverty alleviation. Farley explains how Empower Upper Cumberland secured $25 million in state funding to pilot innovative programs aimed at helping 800 families—most of them single mothers—reach long-term economic stability. A major focus of the episode is the "benefit cliff," a policy challenge that often leaves families worse off when they earn just a little more income. Farley shares how his team is working around these barriers while also pushing for smarter policy, all while helping families build skills, confidence, and a path toward better-paying work. The results are powerful: early program graduates have increased household income by millions of dollars, with some families moving from poverty to six-figure earnings. More than statistics, this episode is about restoring belief, overcoming past trauma, and proving that when rural communities invest in people, real change is possible. RURAL BUILDS is brought to you by Birdman Media™ and supported by the following sponsors; Please visit their sites for more information and support them when you can. Sitgreaves Community Development Corporation (https://www.sgcdc.org) Mountain Retreat Realty Experts (https://www.mtnretreatrealty.com)

15. 

    27 Jan 2026

    Rural Arizona Employers: Get Up to $5,000 to Hire and Train Better

    Rural employers don't just need workers—they need workers who can stay, grow, and help a business run better. In this episode of Rural Builds, host Rob "Birdman" Hepner talks with Jay Johnson, Rural Program Manager of Workforce Development at Local First Arizona, about a program that's putting real support (and real dollars) behind rural hiring. Jay breaks down the Northern Arizona Good Jobs Network, a multi-county workforce initiative stretching from Kingman to Show Low/Holbrook, built in partnership with community colleges and training providers across five northern Arizona counties. The goal is simple: deliver the right training for each region—and then connect trained workers to employers who are ready to hire and retain them. Here's the part rural business owners will want to hear: the program doesn't just offer free training for workers. It also offers employer incentives up to $5,000, including paid time-off for interviewing program participants, support for staff training (including soft skills), and stipends to help businesses strengthen operations. Jay explains how the reimbursement process works, why soft skills should be treated like ongoing practice—not a one-time seminar—and how employer involvement helps ensure the training actually matches real-world needs. This episode is also time-sensitive. Jay shares key deadlines: Local First Arizona aims to get employers committed by March 1, with the grant wrapping up in June. If you're a rural Arizona employer who needs better staffing, better training, or a better hiring pipeline, this is a chance to get in while the support is still on the table. If you are a business, don't hesitate, click this link NOW - https://localfirstaz.com/good-jobs RURAL BUILDS is brought to you by Birdman Media™ and supported by the following sponsors; Please visit their sites for more information and support them when you can. Sitgreaves Community Development Corporation (https://www.sgcdc.org) Mountain Retreat Realty Experts (https://www.mtnretreatrealty.com)

16. 

    27 Jan 2026

    What Happens When Rural Communities Build Systems That Actually Let People Win

    Rural Builds launches with a candid conversation on what it really takes to strengthen rural communities—and why traditional, metro-designed solutions often fall short. Hosts Rob "Birdman" Hephner and Allison Hephner explore how rural community champions are addressing social determinants of health like housing, food access, workforce, childcare, and substance use with limited resources but deep local commitment. This episode centers on a critical shift in rural impact work: moving people from survival to thriving. Through real stories from rural Arizona, the conversation examines how well-intentioned systems can unintentionally trap families in poverty, why policy cliffs and rigid eligibility thresholds undermine upward mobility, and how rural partnerships are designing smarter, more human-centered pathways out. The episode sets the foundation for the podcast's mission—amplifying rural builders, elevating lived experience, and showing funders and policymakers what's possible when rural communities are trusted to lead. RURAL BUILDS is brought to you by Birdman Media™ and supported by the following sponsors; Please visit their sites for more information and support them when you can. Sitgreaves Community Development Corporation (https://www.sgcdc.org) Mountain Retreat Realty Experts (https://www.mtnretreatrealty.com)

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